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Separate companies. Telkom do wholesale while Telkom Internet is a separately run ISP.Agreed Telkom's new tariffs are competitive, but in reality... how is it that Telkom is allowed to act as wholesaler to other retail level ISP's while at the same time it competes with these same ISP's at the retail level. This is a recipe for shina****ns and foul play! If Telkom were trully ethical they would withdraw from retailing ADSL! That way naked ADSL may make alot more sense to them!