Telkom LIT Android media box - Tips/Tricks/Apps thread

SauRoNZA said:
No you don’t sometimes have to believe what some people say.

Their streaming technology brings the massive 4K files down to a 7GB per hour rate. That is already with their compression algorithms at full tilt over anything else.

Do you honestly think they can double even that compression? It’s simply not possible in the here and now.

What’s being reported in your stats and what’s actually coming out on the TV aren’t necessarily the same thing.

There are many many gradients to their algorithms and you are seemingly triggering the very bottom end one and probably at a loss for quality over just sticking the top end version of 1080p.

But if it works for you and you believe it to be up to UHD scratch then my opinion is irrelevant anyway.
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I initially thought the quality would be terrible.. But remember audio forms the biggest part of total file for a movie.. NOT video.. There are different encodings for audio..such as 5.1 / 7.1 / atmos.. These make the file sizes larger.. With basic stereo u can shrink that down to 192k bit rate audio.. Great for tv viewing..

Also remember the main stream compression is x264 but x265 is gaining traction and that basically halves the file size.. So instead of getting 50GB bluray u can get it around 26GB now..

Most new tvs now support hevc x265.. So hence better compression.. And yes soon a new codec will be out maybe by Netflix and will half the x265 bit rate

And as for quality its actually perfect when watching on my tv and i can notice the difference between on 1080p and. 2160p on my tv
 
alqassam said:
I may be wrong but is the audio not the largest part of the file. So 4k with stereo or mono might actually be possible with 8 mb line ?
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Yip.. Audio is largest part of the file.. Stereo can go down to mere couple hundred megs for a full movie
 
techead said:
Ag I just can't bring myself to watch the dimmed version but the SD is also killing me...

in the interim, I am casting from my PC. Working well
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Theres a couple of apps that can assist with the dimming..i loaded a few but havent tested properly.. Will post feedback once done testing..
 
techead said:
:crylaugh:
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Sorry for going off topic but multiple people have brought it up and it bothers me that people think the audio stream is larger than the video stream.

Just one example of one of my files:

Duration: 2 h 20 min

Video stream size: 4.37GB

Audio stream size: 385MB
 
Soul Assassin said:
Sorry for going off topic but multiple people have brought it up and it bothers me that people think the audio stream is larger than the video stream.

Just one example of one of my files:

Duration: 2 h 20 min

Video stream size: 4.37GB

Audio stream size: 385MB
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preposterous, you must be using a poor video container/codec

:D
 
RedhotNeo said:
. But remember audio forms the biggest part of total file for a movie.. NOT video..
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Yeah no need to go any further with this discussion if you believe this.

Video is always bigger. MUCH MUCH bigger. There is simply so much more information to be transported.

The only time audio could be bigger than video is on a disc format if you were adding all the soundtracks for every language together, which is completely irrelevant here as Netflix isn’t sending you anything but the audio track you are using.

No wonder you think you are getting UHD on 8MB.
 
RedhotNeo said:
Most new tvs now support hevc x265.. So hence better compression.. And yes soon a new codec will be out maybe by Netflix and will half the x265 bit rate
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Yes that’s the future. We are talking about the here and now which is 7GB per hour...which is impossible for you to maintain.
 
Popped into Cresta to pick one up yesterday.

fokol stock.

:cry:
 
elf_lord_ZC5 said:
Erm ... , I take it that there is more than one version of NetFlix, and assume that they are not all equal.

Or their would not be reason to have different versions ...
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I honestly have no idea what you are on about or trying to get at.

More so all of it is irrelevant to the ability to magically stream UHD on 8MB.
 
I think a separate thread needs to be made please I just went through 3 pages of someone talking rubbish saying an audio stream is larger than a video stream. kmn
 
I'm still waiting for a reply to my query earlier.
 
Ricebowl said:
I think a separate thread needs to be made please I just went through 3 pages of someone talking rubbish saying an audio stream is larger than a video stream. kmn
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Pretty sure it’s based on a misguided understanding that a BluRay disc that is say European would have 10+ audio streams in different languages and 2.0 and 5.1 and ATMOS configurations etc.

But it would have 1 video stream only. So of course on that disc there is a reasonable chance that the collection of audio could be as big or bigger than the video stream.

This is of course not remotely applicable to an internet streaming service and doesn’t mean on a 1:1 audio:video ratio that the audio would be even remotely close in size.

Someone needs to go look at what even UHD rips look like in size and understand that at 7GB Netflix is already doing an incredible job.
 
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