TelkomInternet Capped Clients - August 2006

MrG

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You guys are mistating the issue a bit.

There is no such thing as bandwidth.... let me explain.

You pay Telkom for a 384/512/1024Kbit pipe onto thier network, that is the badnwidth section. They have contention ratios of say 60:1 (no one knows exact values) i.e. they sell that same 384/512/1024Kbit 60 times.

It is thierfore irrelevant how much traffic you put over that link, as you're paying for the segment.

The only reason there are caps in place is because of Network Congestion, i.e. Telkom doesn't have enough bandwidth on thier network (remember by bandwidth I mean 155MBit lines) to sell 160 000 ADSL users 1MBit each, even at 60:1. So they need to limit the users usage of the lines in order to keep the network uncongested.

Capping is practiced on alot of networks internationally as well, because providers have to over sell to make profits.

My point being, Telkom doesn't buy GB's because there are no such thing as GB's it's simply a congestion game..

Yes, bandwidth as in the term I used means "bandwidth is the amount of information downloadable from the webserver over a prescribed period of time", however Telkom uses a per gig model in south africa to rent out the bandwidth they have available, as you are aware.

You are correct in Telkom having bandwidth available measured in the true sense in Mbit/Gigabit format rather than in a traffic basis.



Oh, and Telkom / SAIX / Telkominternet are not virtually the same company, they ARE the same company... Telkom SA Ltd.

I said they are basically the same company. However they wont admit they have the same VAT number. (SAIX, TelkomInternet, TelkomSA)
 

Carlhead

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Yes, bandwidth as in the term I used means "bandwidth is the amount of information downloadable from the webserver over a prescribed period of time", however Telkom uses a per gig model in south africa to rent out the bandwidth they have available, as you are aware.

You are correct in Telkom having bandwidth available measured in the true sense in Mbit/Gigabit format rather than in a traffic basis.





I said they are basically the same company. However they wont admit they have the same VAT number. (SAIX, TelkomInternet, TelkomSA)

Oh, to clarify, I wasn't flaming... :D

Just bothers me be, cause alot of people think that bandwidth as Telkom sells it, is actually some kind of physical comodity, i.e. thier network contains X amount of GB's of data.

In the true sence of the words:

Bandwidth: The amount of (space) width on the band / pipe, I.E. the ammount of traffic that pipe can hold at one time.

Traffic: The data put over the said pipe, i.e. the number of bytes sent and received.

Most ISP's use the term bandwidth incorrectly (including us), and Telkom has used that fact to bewilder people into thinking it's a physical asset.
 

MrG

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We really need a response from TelkomInternet and SAIX on a deadline.
 

bwana

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I say everyone who gets capped sends a complaint to ICASA stating that Telkom is ignoring the regulations. Either ICASA will respond or Telkom will :)
 

matt loves telkom

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So im going kinda crazy right now.Id say i download 300 meg yestaday and today its 200 mbyte.

Should i be fearing when around the 25 August comes and i hit the 2 gig cap?
Or should i just keep 'testing' how much i can do.

For some stupid reason i feel guilty when i know i shouldnt be :(
 

MrG

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Guilty? for what? - dont really understand where you coming from with regards to guilty.
 

Carlhead

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don't think there is anything wrong with exceeding your usage cap, as it is a facility that Telkom provides you... you pay for it, so use it.
 

MrG

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There is nothing wrong with going over your cap, you purcahse a xGB account from Telkom and they have said we do Relaxed Capping. Go over if you want, but be prepared to be capped at any point in time.
 

matt loves telkom

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Got this as my first email from Telkom about my usage


A friendly notification that according to our records your usage as at
[2006-8-19 00:00:01] reflected the following:

Username: online530488@dsl.2gbsh.telkomsa.net
Uploaded: 0Bytes
Downloaded: 0Bytes
Combined Total: 0Bytes
Service threshold: 2.00GB

Please bear in mind that this is a usage-based service and as such is
subject to a threshold.

TelkomInternet have opted to offer you an average usage option that
will keep you online until such time that the average usage for all
subscribers reaches the service threshold.

This means that we are allowing unrestricted access beyond your
threshold instead of simply curtailing the service. However, your service may
be discontinued once the average usage for all subscribers has been
reached. You will then be required to top-up your threshold to remain
online.


But that doesnt make sense!
I got the dsl on the 17th. I would like to know how much im using.How am i supposed to know? And with this 'service threshold' is it for all the Telkom users or for my area. What im basically trying to ask is Am i sharing this threshold with all those crazy 22 Gigs a month downloaders :eek: :p

Thanks for any fback
 

MrG

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oh my word, does nobody read my topics... Telkom SAIX (AND TELKOM TRACKER) stoppped tracking the afternoon the ICASA regulations came out.

Telkom Tracker NEVER works, so dont even go there, however www.saix.co.za has a 100% accurate tracker, BUT for the first time I have seen it stopped tracking for ALL accounts... TelkomInternet and other SAIX ISPs
 

.geek

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No, get a bandwidth monitor like I said in a previous post. Monitor it yourself.
 

matt loves telkom

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But it will only monitor from now.I dont have a clue how much ive already done !
Geez - why does this happen as i get adsl.Im a newbie and im scared of geting capped in 5 days :(
 

MrG

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Any capped clients been uncapped again for local access?
 

matt loves telkom

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i got 250 megs left. todays the 22nd.now i would take a risk and klap it but my mom is off this week so she needs the net for basic browsing.

does anyone have any clue what will happen if i hit the 2 gig 2nyt and disconnect.then when i wake 2moro? you think il be 'uncapped'.im really scared.

any advice please :(
 
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