The 86 has arrived :D

...But those are all horrible except for the Polo maybe, which at the end of the day is a R300k Polo for heaven's sake (Because you're going to want that maintenance plan as well as a couple of accessories).

If he watched any of the glowing reviews, he would have noticed that on more than one occasion they do say it's not blistering fast. It's the handling, balance and sheer pleasure of driving it that makes it good. So far I've not seen one negative review of *people that actually drove the car* :D
 
Had a look at the car...Very small boot.at least full spare tyre,quite snugly fit.

Wanted to testdrive it being a sportscar and all.But no sane Sales rep would even let me close to the keys if they knew how i would treat a 86 GT

I miss the true toyota sports car.back in the day of the twincam and supra's

Toyota was the best.
 
That "very small boot" opens up into the car so golf clubs are no problem. That being said, please show me a sports car that doesn't have a small boot....:p
 
I'm sure real drivers won't be buying it for its straight line speed.

How many "real" drivers will buy this car?
What is this real driver? lol

This is a budget cars for little snob kids, no real race car enthusiast will buy this, they will buy a Lotus Elise or something real.

This Toy has incy bitty little tyres lol, tiny brakes, they didnt put low profiles on a sportscar...

So who and how will they enjoy this car? around a bend? On the highway? Only the track then, coz every single turbo hatchback will kick this cars ass! Imagine the little kids explaining to their friend or GF why they lost to a Polo Tdi heheheheheehe

Its another slow Toyota that looks like it fell out of Fast n Furious, if you at the coast, by all means it will be fun to drive, dont waste your money if you on the highveld.
 
How many "real" drivers will buy this car?
What is this real driver? lol

This is a budget cars for little snob kids, no real race car enthusiast will buy this, they will buy a Lotus Elise or something real.

This Toy has incy bitty little tyres lol, tiny brakes, they didnt put low profiles on a sportscar...

So who and how will they enjoy this car? around a bend? On the highway? Only the track then, coz every single turbo hatchback will kick this cars ass! Imagine the little kids explaining to their friend or GF why they lost to a Polo Tdi heheheheheehe

Its another slow Toyota that looks like it fell out of Fast n Furious, if you at the coast, by all means it will be fun to drive, dont waste your money if you on the highveld.

:erm: this guy ^
 
How many "real" drivers will buy this car?
What is this real driver? lol

This is a budget cars for little snob kids, no real race car enthusiast will buy this, they will buy a Lotus Elise or something real.

This Toy has incy bitty little tyres lol, tiny brakes, they didnt put low profiles on a sportscar...

So who and how will they enjoy this car? around a bend? On the highway? Only the track then, coz every single turbo hatchback will kick this cars ass! Imagine the little kids explaining to their friend or GF why they lost to a Polo Tdi heheheheheehe

Its another slow Toyota that looks like it fell out of Fast n Furious, if you at the coast, by all means it will be fun to drive, dont waste your money if you on the highveld.

You realize that an Elise has a similar power output to this, per kg, at a significantly higher price, right? Also, it's pretty uncomfortable to drive, has basically zero practical application and one cannot recommend them as a daily drive. You need to compare apples and apples. The Elise is most certainly a very bright orange, last I looked.
 
You realize that an Elise has a similar power output to this, per kg, at a significantly higher price, right? Also, it's pretty uncomfortable to drive, has basically zero practical application and one cannot recommend them as a daily drive. You need to compare apples and apples. The Elise is most certainly a very bright orange, last I looked.

its a track car for the road, what the Toyota? A road car for the track? Ofcourse it will be comfortable, have you the size of those tyres lol!! Driving on Marshmallows?
Lets take the track out of it completely, chances are not more than 5% of the owners will take it on the track.

What do you have? A silly looking slow car with a low budget interior...? I sat in that seat, it wasnt the most comfortable, lower profile tyres and you have a very hard ride.

The only thing fast about this is the speed of its street cred dropping after release.
 
R100 bucks says Haldex is in fact 15 years old.
 
I went and had a look at the 86. I like it, I like it a lot!

The boot isn't so small. BTW you don't buy a sports coupe for the boot space. The seats are comfortable. No problem with the fabric. I was wondering if the leather won't be a problem when cornering or drifting? I couldn't see the problem with the speedo.

What felt funny to me was the handbrake position, but I guess its in the perfect position if you want to drift.

Now I just need to convince myself that the back seats have enough space for the kids.

What are all the extras on the high spec model?
 
Haldex just trolling man, after seeing a few of his posts I decided to ignore his "contribution". He sat in the car, and that's why he can say with certainty that it's a terrible drive -_-'
 
The difference, as you say, is xenon, leather,touch screen radio, blue teeth, push button start and keyless entry, 17" wheels, plus spoiler on the boot and quad exhausts - if anyone wants, I can deliver immediately - if you are serious pm me.

Found it.
 
Haldex just trolling man, after seeing a few of his posts I decided to ignore his "contribution". He sat in the car, and that's why he can say with certainty that it's a terrible drive -_-'

I can't think of a Haldex post in any thread, that added any value to a discussion... Troll of note. Think I'll just block the guy.
 
its a track car for the road, what the Toyota? A road car for the track? Ofcourse it will be comfortable, have you the size of those tyres lol!! Driving on Marshmallows?
Lets take the track out of it completely, chances are not more than 5% of the owners will take it on the track.

What do you have? A silly looking slow car with a low budget interior...? I sat in that seat, it wasnt the most comfortable, lower profile tyres and you have a very hard ride.

The only thing fast about this is the speed of its street cred dropping after release.

Dude, I don't want to be mean, but really, you're talking nonsense. Pretty much every review says it's fantastic to drive and you should get one ASAP. I'd say that owners I've spoken to have similar feelings, but I never take the owner of a specific car's opinion seriously as they're normally hugely biased. If you've seen videos of it drifting, you'd see that it has plenty of power, it's plenty fast and it's actually nice to throw around a corner a bit (At legal speeds, of course).

Besides, I don't understand why you're so zealous about this thing. Nobody is forcing you to buy it. You don't like it and you've shared your opinion, great, now how about letting others decide for themselves whether it's a good buy or not? I personally detest any of the Korean cars, but you don't see me preaching my vitriol in all threads where people mention them? You're being like certain forumites with TV choices. Even if you specifically say you don't want their obviously biased opinion, they still insist on muddying the conversation with emotion/ego-driven arguments and nothing really to back it up.

As for the hatches that will give this a whipping:
Polo GTI: It's a Polo. I actually really like VW, but come on, it's an expensive Polo with massive reliability issues on its very high-performing (For the capacity) engine. It has an expensive options list and some things are absolutely required such as the rather pricey service plan.
The Mini Cooper: It's fine as long as you don't mind being mocked as being a girl. Personally I think it's horribly ugly as well and the options list on it is extensive and very expensive. Maintenance is a nightmare too.
Corsa OPC: Yeah, buying into a brand that's all but dead is a great idea...
Alfa Giulietta (125kW): I love this thing, but reliability and depreciation in value puts me off buying it.
 
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This sort of remark makes me laugh.

What do you mean about "the quality of the material" on the seats? It is normal high quality Japanese cloth - if you want leather, you can get it, either as a R 7500 option, or pay the extra for the High model which comes standard with leather.

If the seat covers put you off a particular car, then you aren't that serious about buying.

As for the zero percent, that is a Toyota thing - example

Auris TRD R 288,600 0.00% interest R 101,010 deposit R 5,318 - 36 months

Hope that helps.

I laugh at most of your remarks about your "well priced" Toyota ("It is normal high quality Japanese cloth" :D ) - anyway I know what this car is really about, a drivers car but for 300K I don't want to comprimise on quality and the trim inside in this spec imo is not good. Will wait for the High at least the Toyota saleman that assisted me agreed and said he will also rather get the leather trim availible in the High spec
 
I went and had a look at the 86. I like it, I like it a lot!

The boot isn't so small. BTW you don't buy a sports coupe for the boot space. The seats are comfortable. No problem with the fabric. I was wondering if the leather won't be a problem when cornering or drifting? I couldn't see the problem with the speedo.

What felt funny to me was the handbrake position, but I guess its in the perfect position if you want to drift.

Now I just need to convince myself that the back seats have enough space for the kids.

What are all the extras on the high spec model?

Nah - my S2000 had leather - and never once felt like I was slipping out of them, even when I spun out... I much prefer leather :)

The responsible person in me is saying I don't need it, I have two cars (granted, the one is a Materia I bought for my SO, with my family stickers :o)- and should rather by a flat for rental - the irresponsible is saying "**** you" to the responsible me.
 
I laugh at most of your remarks about your "well priced" Toyota ("It is normal high quality Japanese cloth" :D ) - anyway I know what this car is really about, a drivers car but for 300K I don't want to comprimise on quality and the trim inside in this spec imo is not good.

FYI it is well priced. It sold out all over the world when it was launched. Having seen the cloth I can confidently say it's not low quality or poor trim. But it is still cloth. If you want leather then spend the extra money and get leather. Who knew? :erm:
 
We sold two on Thursday - one white, one black - Opel OPC trade in............

A chap who owns 7 Ferraris came and tested one on Wednesday, and could not believe that it was selling for 298k - he was thinking in the region of 450...

They ARE well priced, no matter what biased opinions are spouted here.
 
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