Hosehead
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BRown's off, Dewani is as good as off, and Oscar will get off so what's the point of having High Courts anymore. Turn them into schools or librarys or Haalal Burger Kings. It doesn't matter. they're useless.
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The Anni Dewani Murder Case
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R13...
Honorary Master
Big money big lawyers. They all get off.
killadoob
Honorary Master
I wish it would read dewani suffers relapses and dies. He won't see a SA court but at least he would get what was owed.
marine1
Honorary Master
Agreed. Hell even if he saw the courtroom he would probably get off in SA
I can full understand if he's faking it to stop coming to SA:
If he's guilty then it's a "pretend to be sick to stay outside of a South African prison"
If he's innocent it's a "SA is corrupt and will pin this on you, so fake illness"
Image you went on holiday to Saudi Arabia, have a good time. Coming back to SA you get accused of openly converting people to Christianity .... I'd also resist going back to Saudi Arabia for that "trial".
If he's guilty then it's a "pretend to be sick to stay outside of a South African prison"
If he's innocent it's a "SA is corrupt and will pin this on you, so fake illness"
Image you went on holiday to Saudi Arabia, have a good time. Coming back to SA you get accused of openly converting people to Christianity .... I'd also resist going back to Saudi Arabia for that "trial".
blunomore
Honorary Master
If you go to another country, you are expected to know and abide by their laws. If you cannot do that (on whatever grounds), don't go there!!
What Blu said. In any case, putting a hit out on your wife is pretty much a no-no everywhere.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Dewani Extradition Hearing to start
The full extradition hearing for UK-based Shrien Dewani, accused of the honeymoon murder of his wife in South Africa, is due to begin on Monday, the British Press Association reported.
Dewani, 33, is accused of orchestrating the death of his 28-year-old wife Anni, who was shot as the couple travelled in a taxi on the outskirts of Cape Town in November 2010.
He has been receiving treatment for mental health problems at a hospital in Bristol, but there have been fluctuations in his condition.
In April prosecutors said that his post traumatic stress disorder and depression had "improved significantly".
But then in May, the Westminster Magistrates' Court was told he had suffered a relapse after being taken off medication to which he had a bad reaction.
Anni Dewani was shot when a taxi in which the couple were travelling was hijacked in the Gugulethu township in Cape Town.
Last year South African Xolile Mngeni was convicted of premeditated murder for shooting her.
Prosecutors claimed that he was a hitman hired by Dewani to kill his new wife, something that Dewani has consistently denied.
A five-day extradition hearing is due to start on Monday at the Westminster Magistrates' Court.
Dewani and the driver Zola Tongo were ejected from the car before she was driven away and killed. She was found dead in the back of the abandoned vehicle with a bullet wound to her neck.
Tongo was jailed for 18 years after he admitted his part in the crime. This came after he claimed in a plea agreement that Dewani ordered the carjacking and paid for a hit on his wife.
Another accomplice, Mziwamadoda Qwabe, also pleaded guilty to charges over the murder and was handed a 25-year prison sentence.
Both Tongo and Qwabe claimed Dewani wanted it to appear as if he had nothing to do with his wife's murder.
Source : Sapa /str/fg/ks
Date : 01 Jul 2013 08:36
The full extradition hearing for UK-based Shrien Dewani, accused of the honeymoon murder of his wife in South Africa, is due to begin on Monday, the British Press Association reported.
Dewani, 33, is accused of orchestrating the death of his 28-year-old wife Anni, who was shot as the couple travelled in a taxi on the outskirts of Cape Town in November 2010.
He has been receiving treatment for mental health problems at a hospital in Bristol, but there have been fluctuations in his condition.
In April prosecutors said that his post traumatic stress disorder and depression had "improved significantly".
But then in May, the Westminster Magistrates' Court was told he had suffered a relapse after being taken off medication to which he had a bad reaction.
Anni Dewani was shot when a taxi in which the couple were travelling was hijacked in the Gugulethu township in Cape Town.
Last year South African Xolile Mngeni was convicted of premeditated murder for shooting her.
Prosecutors claimed that he was a hitman hired by Dewani to kill his new wife, something that Dewani has consistently denied.
A five-day extradition hearing is due to start on Monday at the Westminster Magistrates' Court.
Dewani and the driver Zola Tongo were ejected from the car before she was driven away and killed. She was found dead in the back of the abandoned vehicle with a bullet wound to her neck.
Tongo was jailed for 18 years after he admitted his part in the crime. This came after he claimed in a plea agreement that Dewani ordered the carjacking and paid for a hit on his wife.
Another accomplice, Mziwamadoda Qwabe, also pleaded guilty to charges over the murder and was handed a 25-year prison sentence.
Both Tongo and Qwabe claimed Dewani wanted it to appear as if he had nothing to do with his wife's murder.
Source : Sapa /str/fg/ks
Date : 01 Jul 2013 08:36
R13...
Honorary Master
His lawyers say he's got worse again. How surprising?
ShaunSA
Derailment Squad
Bastid should be rotting in a prison already.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Shrien Dewani's Mental Health has 'improved'
Honeymoon murder accused Shrien Dewani's mental health has improved and he has talked about returning to South Africa to fight a murder charge, a London court heard on Monday.
The British Press Association reported that his depression was now moderate, and not severe.
Dewani, 33, is accused of orchestrating the murder of his wife Anni, who was shot while visiting Gugulethu, Cape Town, in November 2010.
While he has denied any involvement in her murder, he faces extradition to South Africa for trial.
Opening the case for the South African government at Westminster Magistrates' Court, Hugo Keith QC said Dewani's post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), depression and risk of suicide had all improved.
The businessman, who was excused from attending the hearing, is being treated for the conditions in a mental hospital near Bristol.
"Our case is not that it would be oppressive to extradite him," Keith said.
"We suggest that there has been significant and sustained improvement [in his depression], largely as a result of the administration of drugs, but also due to the grounding techniques and coping therapies which he has acquired during his time at Fromeside [clinic] and more recently at Blaise View since his transfer to Blaise View [mental health hospital] in January this year."
In April, his PTSD was found to be "considerably less" and was now moderate or severe, rather than severe. The court heard that Dewani still had a substantial inability to concentrate and poor memory, but he no longer made active references to suicide.
"There are more positive observations about how he wishes to return to fight the case against him," Keith said.
The South African government had offered reassurances that he would be admitted to a mental hospital if he was found to be ill. If held in jail, he would be kept in a single cell, which would reduce the chance of him being attacked.
Source : Sapa /str/gq/hdw/clh/th
Date : 01 Jul 2013 16:46
Honeymoon murder accused Shrien Dewani's mental health has improved and he has talked about returning to South Africa to fight a murder charge, a London court heard on Monday.
The British Press Association reported that his depression was now moderate, and not severe.
Dewani, 33, is accused of orchestrating the murder of his wife Anni, who was shot while visiting Gugulethu, Cape Town, in November 2010.
While he has denied any involvement in her murder, he faces extradition to South Africa for trial.
Opening the case for the South African government at Westminster Magistrates' Court, Hugo Keith QC said Dewani's post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), depression and risk of suicide had all improved.
The businessman, who was excused from attending the hearing, is being treated for the conditions in a mental hospital near Bristol.
"Our case is not that it would be oppressive to extradite him," Keith said.
"We suggest that there has been significant and sustained improvement [in his depression], largely as a result of the administration of drugs, but also due to the grounding techniques and coping therapies which he has acquired during his time at Fromeside [clinic] and more recently at Blaise View since his transfer to Blaise View [mental health hospital] in January this year."
In April, his PTSD was found to be "considerably less" and was now moderate or severe, rather than severe. The court heard that Dewani still had a substantial inability to concentrate and poor memory, but he no longer made active references to suicide.
"There are more positive observations about how he wishes to return to fight the case against him," Keith said.
The South African government had offered reassurances that he would be admitted to a mental hospital if he was found to be ill. If held in jail, he would be kept in a single cell, which would reduce the chance of him being attacked.
Source : Sapa /str/gq/hdw/clh/th
Date : 01 Jul 2013 16:46
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Anni's Family in Court
Relatives of honeymoon murder victim Anni Dewani were at a London court on Monday for the start of his extradition hearing, the British Press Association reported.
Anni Dewani, 28, was shot dead in a minibus taxi on the outskirts of Cape Town in November 2010. So far three men had been jailed for her murder.
Her husband Shrien Dewani, 33, has been accused of orchestrating her killing, which he denies.
At the Westminster Magistrates' Court her father Vinod Hindocha, sister Ami Denborg, and brother Anish Hindocha watched from the public gallery with other relatives as a five-day extradition hearing began.
Shrien Dewani was excused from attending the hearing, but his father Prakash and brother Preyen came to court.
He was being treated for post-traumatic stress disorder and depression at a hospital in Bristol. There had been fluctuations in the state of his mental health.
His lawyers previously claimed he would be a high suicide risk if extradited, and his human rights might be violated due to the risk of being violently attacked and sexually assaulted in a South African prison and potentially contracting HIV or Aids.
Dewani was ordered to return to the country in 2011, but this was successfully appealed against and judges ordered that Chief Magistrate Howard Riddle review the case.
Hugo Keith, QC, for the South African government, began proceedings by summarising the case history.
He said the appeal judges found that South African authorities offered assurances that Dewani would be kept in a single cell if he returned, and therefore would be at less risk of attack.
Source : Sapa /str/gq/hdw/jk/th
Date : 01 Jul 2013 15:59
Relatives of honeymoon murder victim Anni Dewani were at a London court on Monday for the start of his extradition hearing, the British Press Association reported.
Anni Dewani, 28, was shot dead in a minibus taxi on the outskirts of Cape Town in November 2010. So far three men had been jailed for her murder.
Her husband Shrien Dewani, 33, has been accused of orchestrating her killing, which he denies.
At the Westminster Magistrates' Court her father Vinod Hindocha, sister Ami Denborg, and brother Anish Hindocha watched from the public gallery with other relatives as a five-day extradition hearing began.
Shrien Dewani was excused from attending the hearing, but his father Prakash and brother Preyen came to court.
He was being treated for post-traumatic stress disorder and depression at a hospital in Bristol. There had been fluctuations in the state of his mental health.
His lawyers previously claimed he would be a high suicide risk if extradited, and his human rights might be violated due to the risk of being violently attacked and sexually assaulted in a South African prison and potentially contracting HIV or Aids.
Dewani was ordered to return to the country in 2011, but this was successfully appealed against and judges ordered that Chief Magistrate Howard Riddle review the case.
Hugo Keith, QC, for the South African government, began proceedings by summarising the case history.
He said the appeal judges found that South African authorities offered assurances that Dewani would be kept in a single cell if he returned, and therefore would be at less risk of attack.
Source : Sapa /str/gq/hdw/jk/th
Date : 01 Jul 2013 15:59
Sinbad
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There are a couple of speculations doing the rounds... that he is gay and was forced into the marriage by his family, maybe for financial reasons...
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
SA will make an 'Exception' for Dewani
South African authorities will make "an exception" for honeymoon murder-accused Shrien Dewani by allowing him mainstream mental health treatment instead of sending him to a forensic unit, a London court heard on Tuesday.
The British Press Association reported that psychiatrist Dr Ian Cumming told the Westminster Magistrate's Court that he had visited the country and had been reassured that Dewani would be admitted to a general ward at Valkenberg Hospital in Cape Town, rather than a unit where people were sent by the courts.
"They were going to make an exception for Mr Dewani. He would probably be the first person that they would do that for," Cumming said.
Dewani, 33, is accused of orchestrating the death of his 28-year-old wife Anni, who was shot as the couple travelled in a taxi on the outskirts of Cape Town in November 2010.
He is facing extradition to South Africa to stand trial for her murder, in which he denies any involvement.
Previously Dewani's lawyers expressed concerns that he would be a high suicide risk if he returned to the country, and his human rights could be breached because of the risk of violent and sexual assaults in jail, and of contracting HIV and Aids.
The South African authorities have said that if he was found not to be mentally ill, he would be given a single cell in prison to reduce the risk of attack.
Source : Sapa /str/gq/hdw/ks/jk
Date : 02 Jul 2013 14:31
South African authorities will make "an exception" for honeymoon murder-accused Shrien Dewani by allowing him mainstream mental health treatment instead of sending him to a forensic unit, a London court heard on Tuesday.
The British Press Association reported that psychiatrist Dr Ian Cumming told the Westminster Magistrate's Court that he had visited the country and had been reassured that Dewani would be admitted to a general ward at Valkenberg Hospital in Cape Town, rather than a unit where people were sent by the courts.
"They were going to make an exception for Mr Dewani. He would probably be the first person that they would do that for," Cumming said.
Dewani, 33, is accused of orchestrating the death of his 28-year-old wife Anni, who was shot as the couple travelled in a taxi on the outskirts of Cape Town in November 2010.
He is facing extradition to South Africa to stand trial for her murder, in which he denies any involvement.
Previously Dewani's lawyers expressed concerns that he would be a high suicide risk if he returned to the country, and his human rights could be breached because of the risk of violent and sexual assaults in jail, and of contracting HIV and Aids.
The South African authorities have said that if he was found not to be mentally ill, he would be given a single cell in prison to reduce the risk of attack.
Source : Sapa /str/gq/hdw/ks/jk
Date : 02 Jul 2013 14:31
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
It's a ploy to just get him back to the country to face justice.