The Anni Dewani Murder Case

sox63 said:
For a while now, its been near imposible to buy a new SIM and not have it RICA'd. So he would have had to register it like all of us.
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Didn't someone here say they bought some pre-RICA'd sims in Jhb? Plus it sounds like he pre-arranged the details from overseas, maybe his people on this side arranged everything including the phone.
 
R13... said:
I don't think they store text messages like they don't keep (voice) records of your conversations. They can show evidence texts were sent and the times that happened. We can ask OC. Surely Shrien was smart enough to have used a throw away sim for his 'mission'?
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They most definitely do store text messages. Don't ask how I know :)
 
SpiderMonkey said:
My guess is that he has an insurance policy on her. Not necessarily in England because it could also be in India or Sweden.
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A Life Insurance policy was mentioned at some point earlier (can't remember where) - but for some reason or other isn't elegible for payout - so I don't think it qualifies as a motive.

I'll update if I can find out where it was mentioned.
 
shadowfox said:
A Life Insurance policy was mentioned at some point earlier (can't remember where) - but for some reason or other isn't elegible for payout - so I don't think it qualifies as a motive.

I'll update if I can find out where it was mentioned.
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Thanks, would be nice to get the details on that. I cannot imagine why the policy would not have paid out to him under normal circumstances.
 
There's one other thing that bothers me about this case - Dewani making contradictory statements was bad enough - but didn't the driver claim at first that he was approached by Dewani at the hotel?

And yet now the story runs that it was organised beforehand.

Also, the driver says he gets the feeling that Dewani has done something like this before. Then why, if this was the case, deal with a new person he doesn't know rather than go to someone - if you'll pardon the phrase - tried and tested?

I mean, think logically - if you've contracted someone to kill a person, and you needed a job done again, are you going to walk up to a complete stranger and blandly ask him to kill someone, or are you going back to the person who did it the last time? I know what I'd do ...
 
This whole thing confuses me completely - there doesn't seem to be an insurance policy.

So why kill someone that you have been married to for two weeks - maybe have been better to just not marry her in the first place ?

Or did he only find out afterwards that she wasn't a virgin, or something equally inane ?
 
R13... said:
I don't think they store text messages like they don't keep (voice) records of your conversations. They can show evidence texts were sent and the times that happened. We can ask OC. Surely Shrien was smart enough to have used a throw away sim for his 'mission'?
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The rest of the plan sounds poorly thought out, so I wouldn't count on it.

shadowfox said:
There's one other thing that bothers me about this case - Dewani making contradictory statements was bad enough - but didn't the driver claim at first that he was approached by Dewani at the hotel?

And yet now the story runs that it was organised beforehand.

Also, the driver says he gets the feeling that Dewani has done something like this before. Then why, if this was the case, deal with a new person he doesn't know rather than go to someone - if you'll pardon the phrase - tried and tested?

I mean, think logically - if you've contracted someone to kill a person, and you needed a job done again, are you going to walk up to a complete stranger and blandly ask him to kill someone, or are you going back to the person who did it the last time? I know what I'd do ...
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The person he used before could be dead, in jail or even retired. And I doubt he walked up to some random person and asked them if they'd kill his wife for him. Even assuming it was not arranged from overseas he could have been wanting to have it done and from conversing with this driver thought he had a good candidate to arrange it.

The sequence of events sound implausible if this was a real hijacking. I don't see why they'd let the driver and Shrien go. The plotted murder scenario also sounds a bit far-fetched, unless Shrien is arrogant/prone to taking huge risks. He may have truly believed it would be easy, so no careful planning was necessary.
 
Jola said:
This whole thing confuses me completely - there doesn't seem to be an insurance policy.

So why kill someone that you have been married to for two weeks - maybe have been better to just not marry her in the first place ?

Or did he only find out afterwards that she wasn't a virgin, or something equally inane ?
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Were they actually married and was it under UK law? One possibility is that she had changed her mind, was threatening to divorce him, and if he knows UK law he'd know she'd get a big chunk of his money in a divorce. Unless UK law has changed there are no prenuptial agreements and whoever has more money tends to lose a big wad of it to the other party.
 
shadowfox said:
There's one other thing that bothers me about this case - Dewani making contradictory statements was bad enough - but didn't the driver claim at first that he was approached by Dewani at the hotel?

And yet now the story runs that it was organised beforehand.

Also, the driver says he gets the feeling that Dewani has done something like this before. Then why, if this was the case, deal with a new person he doesn't know rather than go to someone - if you'll pardon the phrase - tried and tested?

I mean, think logically - if you've contracted someone to kill a person, and you needed a job done again, are you going to walk up to a complete stranger and blandly ask him to kill someone, or are you going back to the person who did it the last time? I know what I'd do ...
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Maybe the contract killer he used the first time was not available :)

Jola said:
This whole thing confuses me completely - there doesn't seem to be an insurance policy.

So why kill someone that you have been married to for two weeks - maybe have been better to just not marry her in the first place ?

Or did he only find out afterwards that she wasn't a virgin, or something equally inane ?
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Maybe to inherit from her estate?

He could have been unaware that their marriage was not legal yet (the Indian wedding was ceremonial and it still had to be solemnised in the UK).
 
Jola said:
This whole thing confuses me completely - there doesn't seem to be an insurance policy.

So why kill someone that you have been married to for two weeks - maybe have been better to just not marry her in the first place ?

Or did he only find out afterwards that she wasn't a virgin, or something equally inane ?
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I'm wondering if she uncovered something about him on the "marriage trip" remember the crying /no speakeys/no sit together on the plane trip mentioned at some stage.
Perhaps just a lovers tiff, perhaps something more to it.....maybe she learnt something that she had to be shutup for.
 
What happens if the taxi driver made this up can Shrien sue the SA government?
 
replicant said:
What happens if the taxi driver made this up can Shrien sue the SA government?
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He cannot sue the Minister of Police for something someone else made up.

However, if the SAPS purposely fabricated evidence in order to prosecute him, then he can most certainly sue them for malicious prosecution. Very much like Fred van der Vyver is doing at the moment.
 
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