The Banting/LCHF Thread

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faniedry said:
So, what in your lunchbox today? :D
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Breakfast was a Seattle cappuccino on my way to Butterworth in the Transkei for an early site meeting.

Lunch/Brunch will be biltong and cabanossi with some cheese from the fridge at the office. LUNCH.jpg
 
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So I remember reading that Banting 2.0 allows for potato in moderation.

Anybody incorporate this back into their diet yet? And what is your experience?

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APoc184 said:
So I remember reading that Banting 2.0 allows for potato in moderation.

Anybody incorporate this back into their diet yet? And what is your experience?

Thanks
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I'm not going to follow those guidelines... I'm trying to get my carb intake as low as possible, and these allowances is just counterproductive in my opinion.
 
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faniedry said:
I'm not going to follow those guidelines... I'm trying to get my carb intake as low as possible, and these allowances is just counterproductive in my opinion.
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Understandable.

But there are of course people on completely different sides of the scale (or journey rather). I'm pretty much where I want to be and I remember seeing Tim Noakes replying to an athlete (who was happy with his current state) quite a while ago that he should up carb in take from whole foods in increments until he finds the sweet spot of maintaining weight. That is pretty much what I want to do for a few months now before I start another bulking cycle in the winter.

Now I like cauliflower and cabbage and the likes but you can only eat so much of the stuff to get decent carb numbers from them. Sugar, pasta and bread is a complete no no for me. So with potato being a natural food and moved to the orange list I was just wondering if anybody else has tried this. Sweet potato is also an option. Although I'm not a massive fan.

My biggest worry is that it might spark up cravings and binging. And chips/fries/crisps was probably the biggest reason for my fat arse years ago. Doubt it though. Discipline is quiet good at the moment.
 
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APoc184 said:
Understandable.

But there are of course people on completely different sides of the scale (or journey rather). I'm pretty much where I want to be and I remember seeing Tim Noakes replying to an athlete (who was happy with his current state) quite a while ago that he should up carb in take from whole foods in increments until he finds the sweet spot of maintaining weight. That is pretty much what I want to do for a few months now before I start another bulking cycle in the winter.

Now I like cauliflower and cabbage and the likes but you can only eat so much of the stuff to get decent carb numbers from them. Sugar, pasta and bread is a complete no no for me. So with potato being a natural food and moved to the orange list I was just wondering if anybody else has tried this. Sweet potato is also an option. Although I'm not a massive fan.

My biggest worry is that it might spark up cravings and binging. And chips/fries/crisps was probably the biggest reason for my fat arse years ago. Doubt it though. Discipline is quiet good at the moment.
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Exactly. I'm just afraid that people who want to lose weight, will see the Potatoes and go yay! and then get pissed off when they don't lose weight.
 
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APoc184 said:
So I remember reading that Banting 2.0 allows for potato in moderation.

Anybody incorporate this back into their diet yet? And what is your experience?

Thanks
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I've always treated normal and sweet potato as instant glucose and avoided while losing. I'm also not a big fan of sweet potato. If I start including normal potato's then my craving brain starts trying to convince me to eat fries again, because hey, it's fried in fatty oil which can't be that bad (it is).

So I avoid all types of potato when losing and also try and avoid in maintenance. If I have a take away burger I try my best to leave the chips.
 
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faniedry said:
Exactly. I'm just afraid that people who want to lose weight, will see the Potatoes and go yay! and then get pissed off when they don't lose weight.
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People are funny things. Because of my massive transformation a lot of people want to know what to do, what to eat, what not to do... Basically how I did it.

In the beginning I would help and explain and guide them. Big mistake.
Unfortunately most people want you to actually do all the work for them and keep them motivated and when they don't see the results (because they still eat like crap when no one is looking) they start going all funny with you and insinuate that you were lying to them and don't want to share the secret.

Nowadays I simply tell people to find what works for them and hammer on the point that, whatever they decide to do, it takes months to see real big change. I don't go into diet or training or anything no more. People are always looking for a scapegoat for their failures.
 
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FlashSA said:
I've always treated normal and sweet potato as instant glucose and avoided while losing.
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That's just the thing. I reckon in 3 to 4 weeks time my bodyfat will be at my goal levels and I would then like to maintain until winter months. But of course I do not want to stray from the keto diet that has worked so well for me and others.

Looks like I might just be the one to to incorporate it back and report back here on my anecdotal findings for everyone to critique :) :p
 
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APoc184 said:
Understandable.

But there are of course people on completely different sides of the scale (or journey rather). I'm pretty much where I want to be and I remember seeing Tim Noakes replying to an athlete (who was happy with his current state) quite a while ago that he should up carb in take from whole foods in increments until he finds the sweet spot of maintaining weight. That is pretty much what I want to do for a few months now before I start another bulking cycle in the winter.

Now I like cauliflower and cabbage and the likes but you can only eat so much of the stuff to get decent carb numbers from them. Sugar, pasta and bread is a complete no no for me. So with potato being a natural food and moved to the orange list I was just wondering if anybody else has tried this. Sweet potato is also an option. Although I'm not a massive fan.

My biggest worry is that it might spark up cravings and binging. And chips/fries/crisps was probably the biggest reason for my fat arse years ago. Doubt it though. Discipline is quiet good at the moment.
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Iirc you do a lot of training, so I doubt some potato now and then will hinder anything. If anything it will boost your strength for weight training.

But as you mentioned, you bring up the risk of spiking insulin levels which could lead to hunger and cravings. So ymmv.
 
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Randhir said:
Iirc you do a lot of training, so I doubt some potato now and then will hinder anything. If anything it will boost your strength for weight training.

But as you mentioned, you bring up the risk of spiking insulin levels which could lead to hunger and cravings. So ymmv.
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It is a bit of a double edged sword for me.

On the one end I have this crazy fear of getting fat again (bad thing? YES/NO?) and I really try to avoid going back to anything that I know was part of the cause way back then. Of course I also try telling myself that I also work out now and and and.... Not that easy unfortunately. Mind is a strange thing.

On the other end I now also have this wealth of knowledge about fitness and nutrition and how the body works. So the potatoes for dinner after a work out might be the best thing to happen to me. Get that bit of an insulin spike to quickly shuttle protein into damaged muscle cells and perhaps make some insane progress. Then there is leptin and and and...
 
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On the road today, just had a chicken salad wrap and small portion of chips. Know it's carby but not much choice and should be fine as no other carbs for the day ( had a shake at 4am) only going to get home like 8pm tonight.
 
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As requested by fanie. The recipe for the buns I used for tonight's burgers.

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Oopsie Rolls

3 eggs, separated
90g plain cream cheese
½ teaspoon baking powder or cream or tartar
pinch salt

Method:

Preheat oven to 150 degrees.
Line a cookie tray with baking paper.
Beat the egg whites with the salt until stiff peaks form.
In a separate bowl, mix together the egg yolks, cream cheese and baking powder.
Gently fold the egg whites and cream cheese mixture together.
Scoop 6 bun-sized circles of the mixture on to cookie tray.
Bake in the middle of the oven for 20-25 minutes, or until lightly browned.
Remove from the oven and allow to cool before eating.
 
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