The Banting/LCHF Thread

[RanzB]

This is 240g of protein per day (80g is approximately the size of your palm).

There isn't 80g of protein in 80g of meat.

 

[bob1]

^ Correct, ie. 80g Beef mince = 13.74g protein

 

[Lament]

Stay away from lean mince though. Less fat = more protein. More than the recommended 2g of prison per kg of weight per day can spike your sugar levels; and cause you to store fat, in turn.

I just thought of this,
But if you use normal mince or ground beef, will it still make the crust?, wont the fat cause the crust to be "softer", Meatworld had a nice special last week, R40 per KG ground beef.

 

[Thor]

Per Real Meal Revolution:





This is 240g of protein per day (80g is approximately the size of your palm). However, my GP recommends not more than 2g per kilogram of body mass - which for some people is quite a bit less.

Your carbs should be between 20g-50g per day for weight loss, avoiding sugar and starch, rather nuts and veggies!

Fats remain unlimited, in fact too little could be a problem and cause hunger pangs.

As for actual micronutrients, they play no bearing on weight maintenance - however you will need to get them from fresh produce, LCHF isn't just about fat but also avoiding supplements if you can. Popular Mechanics had an interesting article and it turns out most supplements simply don't work, or could even be dangerous. Your fish oils are safe and advised as a supplement, and Vitamin C can be readily absorbed. The rest are a bit hit and miss and best you stock up on spinach, broccoli and tomatoes for your micronutrient needs.

This right here is the reason I was so fcking furious in those threads. I was never against the LCHF I am against the uneducated sheep that follows it incorrectly.

@olmeanguy
@radnhir
@deadmanza

etc

 

[APoc184]

I just thought of this,
But if you use normal mince or ground beef, will it still make the crust?, wont the fat cause the crust to be "softer", Meatworld had a nice special last week, R40 per KG ground beef.

I usually drain the majority of fat from the mince after about 10-15min in the oven and pop it back in. Then you get a nice solid and non-soggy base.

 

[Thor]

Meatza is a Pizza, made from a mince "crust"

Recipe I followed:

- Lean Beef Mince
- bacon
- green pepper
- some cheese
- onions
- tomato paste
- salt
- pepper
- oraganum
- parsley

Take mince, mix in salt and pepper to taste. Maybe some garlic. Lay it out flat in an oven dish. I did it on some baking paper. It should be very thin, pizza crust thin. Bake in oven at 220 until it starts to go brown. Take it out.

Put on the paste, onions, cheeses, green pepper, bacon oraganum and parsley.

This was the first time I made it, so I would recommend just putting the bacon and green pepper in pan literally for seconds before putting on the pizza.

Put in the over at 180 and wait for cheese to melt.

/profit

I am going to make this tonight.

Fanie what cheese did you use like how much and mince etc?

 

[Lament]

I usually drain the majority of fat from the mince after about 10-15min in the oven and pop it back in. Then you get a nice solid and non-soggy base.

Aaa thanks!!
I simply must try this then, looks flippen amazing

Edit, how much mince is required for the base? +-500g?

 

[faniebraai]

I usually drain the majority of fat from the mince after about 10-15min in the oven and pop it back in. Then you get a nice solid and non-soggy base.

Yeh, mince is really fatty, so when the crust is ready i had to drain it as well.

 

[faniebraai]

I am going to make this tonight.

Fanie what cheese did you use like how much and mince etc?

All depends how big your base is, just go on feels.

 

[RanzB]

This right here is the reason I was so fcking furious in those threads. I was never against the LCHF I am against the uneducated sheep that follows it incorrectly.

@olmeanguy
@radnhir
@deadmanza

etc

So educate politely from your point of view. Try not to be a knob about it.

 

[Lament]

Do you guys actually compress the mince when makeing the base?, I just cant see how this will hold

 

[APoc184]

Do you guys actually compress the mince when makeing the base?, I just cant see how this will hold

Yes. And spread it as thinly as possible because it will shrink quite a bit and thicken slightly in the process.

Remember you add an egg as binder. It holds, promise.

 

[Lament]

Yes. And spread it as thinly as possible because it will shrink quite a bit and thicken slightly in the process.

Remember you add an egg as binder. It holds, promise.

Aaaaah, you see, the egg was not mentioned in Fanie's receipt, makes a lot more sense now

 

[Whiskers81]

Do you guys actually compress the mince when makeing the base?, I just cant see how this will hold

Add an Egg into your mixture. The acts as the binding agent. And it holds together very well. Also had meatza last night. It was fantastic.

Sorry no photos ate it all before i remebered to take a photo

 

[APoc184]

Aaaaah, you see, the egg was not mentioned in Fanie's receipt, makes a lot more sense now

I'll be honest, I did not read his recipe.

I know some call for egg as binder, others don't. I do it with a small egg. Makes it easier for me and it definitely works.

 

[Lament]

Add an Egg into your mixture. The acts as the binding agent. And it holds together very well. Also had meatza last night. It was fantastic.

Sorry no photos ate it all before i remebered to take a photo

I just want to go home now and make me one

 

[Lament]

I'll be honest, I did not read his recipe.

I know some call for egg as binder, others don't. I do it with a small egg. Makes it easier for me and it definitely works.

Thanks for the tip!!
I have made "Egg pizza's" before, but that something entirely different, more of an open omelette.

 

[Fury05]

Can anyone recommend a decent daily eating plan based on banting? I want to start tomorrow, done some reading and I think I understand most of it. Just looking for advice from some of you who are actually losing weight, which is my only goal.

 

[Thor]

All depends how big your base is, just go on feels.

I hate that, my feels are way off and then I usually end up with a mini base and triple toppings.

So educate politely from your point of view. Try not to be a knob about it.

Okey this is my attempt to educate politely.

Hi @phaktza

This is 240g of protein per day (80g is approximately the size of your palm). However, my GP recommends not more than 2g per kilogram of body mass - which for some people is quite a bit less.

Your carbs should be between 20g-50g per day for weight loss, avoiding sugar and starch, rather nuts and veggies!

Fats remain unlimited, in fact too little could be a problem and cause hunger pangs.

As for actual micronutrients, they play no bearing on weight maintenance - however you will need to get them from fresh produce, LCHF isn't just about fat but also avoiding supplements if you can. Popular Mechanics had an interesting article and it turns out most supplements simply don't work, or could even be dangerous. Your fish oils are safe and advised as a supplement, and Vitamin C can be readily absorbed. The rest are a bit hit and miss and best you stock up on spinach, broccoli and tomatoes for your micronutrient needs.

Honestly I do not know where to begin.

Lets take it from the top.

240g of protein per day (80g is approximately the size of your palm)

Common misconception is that people think 1g of protein = 1g of meat ( any meat ).

Okey reality is as follows 1 chicken breast of say 100g is not 100g of protein, it is about 33g of protein. ( About, not going into full science mode here)

So bottom line 80g of protein is not the size of your palm, 80g of that particular meat might be yes. 1g Meat =! 1g Protein.

However, my GP recommends not more than 2g per kilogram of body mass - which for some people is quite a bit less.

Either your GP should loose his license or you understood him wrong. In bodybuilding we usually give or take work on the 1.2g of protein per pound of bodyweight. I personally actually am working on 2.1g protein per kg of bodyweight which roughly equates to 340g of protein per day. ( In terms of meat that is about 7kg of lean mince ) to give you an idea.

Your carbs should be between 20g-50g per day for weight loss, avoiding sugar and starch, rather nuts and veggies!

I agree with this, my carbs are at 100g per day atm, but I suspect you also misunderstood this as 1g of rice = 1g of carb which is also not the case.

50g of carbs is about 200g of long grain white rice.

But I don't think 50g of carbs is acceptable on a LCHF diet, please correct me if I am wrong as I am not to clued up about what diet suggestions you LCHF oakes follow.

Fats remain unlimited, in fact too little could be a problem and cause hunger pangs.

You can't say Fats remain unlimited, 1g of fat = 9 calories

Weight loss is all about Calories in and Calories out.

As for actual micronutrients, they play no bearing on weight maintenance

Untrue and very dangerous.

Fat: 1 gram = 9 calories
Protein: 1 gram = 4 calories
Carbohydrates: 1 gram = 4 calories
Alcohol: 1 gram = 7 calories

LCHF isn't just about fat but also avoiding supplements if you can. Popular Mechanics had an interesting article and it turns out most supplements simply don't work, or could even be dangerous. Your fish oils are safe and advised as a supplement, and Vitamin C can be readily absorbed. The rest are a bit hit and miss and best you stock up on spinach, broccoli and tomatoes for your micronutrient needs.

Very mixed uhm yes try to avoid supplements, but for the rest I think actual LCHF dieters here will better answer this part about what it is about.


If you really want to learn more about macro nutrients ask me then I will post a link explaining it in more detail.

 

[RanzB]

Can anyone recommend a decent daily eating plan based on banting? I want to start tomorrow, done some reading and I think I understand most of it. Just looking for advice from some of you who are actually losing weight, which is my only goal.

Your goal should be getting healthy. Losing weight could be part of that. My advice is to check out reddit.com/r/keto . Tons of info and you'll find daily eating plans, tons of recipes and advice.