The Bodybuilders Thread!

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ShaunSA said:
May as well ask this now... else I will be forever ashamed to :D

I weigh 46kg's and am 1.65m tall :o Ja ja I know! Skinny charo. Small bones. Tell me something I haven't heard before lol.

But what kind of weight should I be looking to move. I am trying to put on weight but so far the only success was on my belly. Have managed to get rid of that and start from scratch. Hence I have gone down from 58kg's to where I am now. And trust me all the extra weight was on my belly!

I am looking for what I should be aiming for in my bench presses, curls and squats in particular. I may not get there. My bony wrists always let me down lol. But I can certainly try :p
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I think you need to set for yourself a few goals.

My first goal was to reach bodyweight on specific exercises.

Second goal, will be to put on muscle, this will help with a combination of eating the correct food and doing exercises. I am not sure if your goal is to look better or put on muscle, but either way, I think first aiming for strength and then changing your goals after to bodybuilding is the way to go.

Either way, I think you should aim for a body-weight of 65kg. Please don't go do it overnight, do it over a period of 6-12 months, maybe more, gaining 20kg IS A LOT, and you want to prevent stretch marks on your skin, so over time is always good.


So try to aim for this (my opinion):
Squat: 50-60kg
Deadlift: 70-80kg (I personally think you should aim higher, but lets make it do-able at first, 90kg felt heavy to me 1st time)
Bench Press: 40kg
Overhead Press: 25-30kg

While you are still lightweight, try and see how many pull-ups/chins/dips you can do, should be easier at low body weight, gets progressively harder as you gain weight, BUT then again you should gain strength/muscle with the body-weight.

Now don't try and do these right of the bat, I started with the olympic bar alone (The bar alone is 20kg, always include it as part of the weight that you are lifting, after all, you are lifting the bar too), and progressively went till I met my 1st goals.

Again, I must emphasize, don't aim for the above tomorrow or next week, aim for them after a year or so, you first have to start with the bar, and learn the correct technique/form of the exercises, else you will end up hurting yourself, which is almost a bigger show stopper than not wanting to go.

If you want a excel sheet with a program that works out the weight for every gym day, I personally believe Stronglifts 5x5 is a super good program for a beginner, I personally used it. The alternative is Starting Strength, but I am glad I started with Stronglifts. Both are equally good however.

Stronglifts 5x5: http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-beginner-strength-training-program/
If you don't want him to email you, gets a bit much, export from my google docs:
SL 5x5

Starting Strenght:
This one requires you to buy a book, but the excel sheet is here: Link
They have a wiki that explains the programs in a tiny bit of detail: http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/The_Starting_Strength_Novice/Beginner_Programs
 
ShaunSA said:
May as well ask this now... else I will be forever ashamed to :D

I weigh 46kg's and am 1.65m tall :o Ja ja I know! Skinny charo. Small bones. Tell me something I haven't heard before lol.

But what kind of weight should I be looking to move. I am trying to put on weight but so far the only success was on my belly. Have managed to get rid of that and start from scratch. Hence I have gone down from 58kg's to where I am now. And trust me all the extra weight was on my belly!

I am looking for what I should be aiming for in my bench presses, curls and squats in particular. I may not get there. My bony wrists always let me down lol. But I can certainly try :p
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Check shaun T's insanity work out programme, simple, no equipment required will put you in good shape, then after that hit the gym or mma or boxing classes of somes sort if you want to go to the higher level.
 
Hey Guys, I placed an order with BSSA.biz over two weeks ago.

Mailed them after a few days and they said they where having problems with stock and I should expect delivery this week.

This week, no delivery emailed again, no response for 3 days. I bought quite a bit close to 2K, now I see their webiste www.bssa.biz is not available.

Have these guys gone the same way as the previous guys, do I need to contact FNB to get my cash back?
 
There website is still up... It's probably just stock problems. There communication has become terrible.

I'm still waiting for a replacement product since May.
 
You know you could just buy L-arginine and glutamine and a basic creatine very cheaply. Basically research around how to increase HGH production levels. In other words supplements that push up your body's ability to produce more HGH. Do not artifically introduce HGH that would become troublesome in the later years
 
I have bought a lot of supplements from Ondier/BSSA and i have never had a problem, you say you have his number, maybe try calling him?

I normally mail him and check stocks before ordering
 
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RiaX said:
You know you could just buy L-arginine and glutamine and a basic creatine very cheaply. Basically research around how to increase HGH production levels. In other words supplements that push up your body's ability to produce more HGH. Do not artifically introduce HGH that would become troublesome in the later years
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@RiaX, I understand that hence why I am buying from BSSA, Whey, Glutamine, etc etc etc. on another note no Pro-Hormone or HGH tablet will come close to a decent cycle of Deca and Depatron, or even just old school Dianobol.

@Killadoob, Never heard of SteroidRSA, would'nt buy juice from a source I did'nt trust anyway. Very brave to inject something from someone you don't know.

@Lament, I have bought alot from them in the past and always had great service, that is why I asked if something was up as this shipment is not looking good.
 
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Lament said:
I have bought a lot of supplements from Ondier/BSSA and i have never had a problem, you say you have his number, maybe try calling him?

I normally mail him and check stocks before ordering
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My last order with BSSA I asked if they had stock before I ordered and was told they did but still ended up waiting over a month.

So yes you will have to wait and the service is not great but they will not rip you off or disappear.
 
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Spazmatic said:
@RiaX, I understand that hence why I am buying from BSSA, Whey, Glutamine, etc etc etc. on another note no Pro-Hormone or HGH tablet will come close to a decent cycle of Deca and Depatron, or even just old school Dianobol.
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For you own good dont do pharmaceutical grade anabolics please. I've seen too many guys using it trying to get buff now sitting with heart failure. Never abuse anabolics or vasodialtors like NO its not worth it. Synthetic depos of GH will cause cancers in later years. You only option is to naturally boost YOUR own. This is the only time in my professional career I will ever say natural is better than pharmaceutical (okay maybe not only, but its extremely rare).

On that note I dont body build much for medical reason I lost over 80% of my strength and I havent bought anabolic supps in a while, is there a HGH supplement thats over the counter on the market today?

before you flame me saying "how can a pharmacist not know", Im not a retail pharmacist im a hospital pharm and I trying to get into R&D so I dont keep up with the millions of natural products.
 
RiaX said:
For you own good dont do pharmaceutical grade anabolics please. I've seen too many guys using it trying to get buff now sitting with heart failure. Never abuse anabolics or vasodialtors like NO its not worth it. Synthetic depos of GH will cause cancers in later years. You only option is to naturally boost YOUR own. This is the only time in my professional career I will ever say natural is better than pharmaceutical (okay maybe not only, but its extremely rare).

On that note I dont body build much for medical reason I lost over 80% of my strength and I havent bought anabolic supps in a while, is there a HGH supplement thats over the counter on the market today?

before you flame me saying "how can a pharmacist not know", Im not a retail pharmacist im a hospital pharm and I trying to get into R&D so I dont keep up with the millions of natural products.
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Hi RiaX, this is not the first thread I have had to ask for you to go back and read my post.

BSSA Does not sell anabolic steroids! He supplies quality raw products such as whey, glutamine, taurine, etc which I use to mix for meal replacements shakes, post/pre workout etc.

USN and a number of other companies supply HGH, etc. check supplementworld.
 
I know this? I was just stating dont do it because you stated the names of those anabolics and some fellow reading your post might get 'bright' ideas lol, perhaps my post structure is off ?
 
I think its fine for RiaX posting what he did. Although he was pointing out Spaz's post, its a message that can go to more people.

That said, people will do whatever they want to do, one can only hope they do it responsibly. Everytime I go back and look at Krokodil abusers....I just /sigh
 
Indeed but in a forum we must try to give the best, PERSONAL advice not just half the picture
 
xrapidx said:
I'm hoping they'll be sorted in that time :p

I ordered from supplementworld yesterday because I'm out of whey this week :( And my BSSA order is still outstanding from the 24th of May. So now I have R2400 supplements on the way :(

If you do order, I'd suggest not paying by credit card, as apparently thats the cause of the delay.
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Received you stuff? Can I order from them?
 
Mila said:
Received you stuff? Can I order from them?
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Yip - but the keto stix were expiring end of the year (manufacturer 2010), and it took so long to deliver I only ended up with 3 weeks left on the diet to use them for this year. They said they'd replace them, I'm still waiting.

Unfortunately I don't think I'll be recommending them, or using them any further.

(if they do replace them, I'll update the thread, but at this stage - I got to use 2 out of 100 ketostix for R250).
 
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Tx. Ordered from supplement world. I love online shopping, the dudes in dischem is so off putting :o
Will try basicsupplement next time.

Thanx :)
 
Sensorei said:
Rather order from supplementworld or basicsupplements. BSSA take forever and don't respond to emails.
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Basicsupplements is pretty much the same, most of my orders were delivered 3 weeks+ - even when paying for overnight delivery... and then items were left out.

So far, SupplementWorld seems to be the best.
 
Supplementworld.co.za is jacked up but unfortunately their prices for quality whey can't compare. They have no whey isolate anywhere near the prices of basic supps and bssa.

Basic Supplements: 2.5KG Whey isolate - R335

BSSA: 1KG Whey isolate - R224 or R214 for choc flavour.

BSSA has the best prices on most supplements besides the whey but the price you pay is bad service.
 
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