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Hey guys I have a pull-up bar. I can do these ones:

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But I cannot do these ones:

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Do you have any suggestion as to how I can make the latter easier until I have enough strength to do them properly?
 
Put a bench under your feet... when they folded as in the bottom picture.

I also can't do the bottom one, but can do the top... at the gym I constantly run into guys that can do either one or the other.

The top one (chinup) uses biceps + shouders.... the bottom one, pull-up, uses back, as per pick.
 
Hey guys I have a pull-up bar. I can do these ones:

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But I cannot do these ones:

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Do you have any suggestion as to how I can make the latter easier until I have enough strength to do them properly?

Underhand close grip isolates the biceps and is significantly easier to do.

Overhand is widegrip and therefor more difficult.

Few things you can do, get stronger in your back and lats. Lat pulldowns will help. If not, lose weight! Easiest way to do more pull ups is lose fat.

Overhand wide grip can be hard as fuark even at low bodyfat, I'm at 8.5% and I do them 8 reps 3 sets and it kills me.
 
Put a bench under your feet... when they folded as in the bottom picture.

I also can't do the bottom one, but can do the top... at the gym I constantly run into guys that can do either one or the other.

The top one (chinup) uses biceps + shouders.... the bottom one, pull-up, uses back, as per pick.

Yeaaaah i forgot, you can get a chair under your feet, then start in the peak position of the pull up, then slowly let yourself down. This will put time under tension on the muscle fibres and basically cause them to tear and you will get stronger over time till you can do 1 or 2 unassisted.
 
Underhand close grip isolates the biceps and is significantly easier to do.

Overhand is widegrip and therefor more difficult.

Few things you can do, get stronger in your back and lats. Lat pulldowns will help. If not, lose weight! Easiest way to do more pull ups is lose fat.

Overhand wide grip can be hard as fuark even at low bodyfat, I'm at 8.5% and I do them 8 reps 3 sets and it kills me.

:D

[video=youtube;MU8pdd-6zvw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU8pdd-6zvw[/video]

The trick with pullups - to get the best value - push your chest out... that engages the back and lats more. Definitely harder, but more value. Even if you can only do one, just keep doing that one somewhere in your routine. You can include lat pull-down instead (lighter weight) or bent-over rows or simply stick a broomstick between two chairs and lay your body horizontal, pulling your chest up to the broom handle...

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Underhand close grip isolates the biceps and is significantly easier to do.

Overhand is widegrip and therefor more difficult.

Few things you can do, get stronger in your back and lats. Lat pulldowns will help. If not, lose weight! Easiest way to do more pull ups is lose fat.

Overhand wide grip can be hard as fuark even at low bodyfat, I'm at 8.5% and I do them 8 reps 3 sets and it kills me.

I'm 1.86m tall and weigh 71kg, the last thing I need to do is lose weight! :D
 
Whoop I love pullups - I do 12 -15 underhand and 8 - 10 overhand.

Did clean and press for the first time last night - I love my new setup
PS I've upped my calories substantially xrapidx - so far so good.
 
Very nice.

Anyone here taking casein protein? If so - which brand? I am now shopping for an affordable casein protein to use to make protein fluff / protein deserts / just a shake before bed after hard sessions.

I know ON has a great one - but they are $$$...then there is Evox as well.

Any other brands people know about that are available in SA reasonably priced?
So far BasicSupplements is the best bet with a RAW casein protein @ R365 for 2.2kg.
 
Just get the basicsup one, apparently their service is back to normal.

You get protein flavouring at Dischem (Pro10).

I still have Casein left over from BasicSupps from early last year which I use
 
Pooky said:
Hey guys I have a pull-up bar. I can do these ones:

*was chinup image* http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=37488&d=1359651278

But I cannot do these ones:

*was pullup image* http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=37490&d=1359651300

Do you have any suggestion as to how I can make the latter easier until I have enough strength to do them properly?
There was a time I couldn't do these, and I weighed less than I do now, however I can do both now, 3 sets of 8 reps, though there was time I could do 10 reps for 3 sets.

Anyways, as mentioned before, do negative reps, where you start in the top position and then as slow as possible lower yourself down to the start position. Lat pulldowns won't really help, at least it never helped me. When I couldn't do these, was before I started my Stronglifts 5x5 program, 6 months later after getting used to do heavy pendlay rows, I decided one day I am going to try wide-grip pull-ups, and I could barely do 1 rep unassisted. From there I basically just started forcing myself to do more and more reps everytime I did the exercise, which started to happen 3 times a week, mondays/wednesday/fridays.

As with most exercises, volume will become key, but if you can't do many reps, go for more sets, and then later more regularly.
Once you can do 10 reps, you are a-ok, and can start adding weight, but lets not get ahead of ourselves, you want to start with negatives, then work your way up to doing un-assisted full reps.
 
Anyone here taking casein protein? If so - which brand? I am now shopping for an affordable casein protein to use to make protein fluff / protein deserts / just a shake before bed after hard sessions.

I know ON has a great one - but they are $$$...then there is Evox as well.

Any other brands people know about that are available in SA reasonably priced?
So far BasicSupplements is the best bet with a RAW casein protein @ R365 for 2.2kg.

So far get my Casein from dairy - milk, greek yogurt, cheese and ricotta cheese.

Not sure if it's my new diet and adding 4x raw eggs each day or only exercising single body part per week and more rest days BUT I'm feeling much stronger with more energy than before.
I have been increasing my PB's on everything so far, nothing better than seeing striations in your muscles all of a sudden, although mostly shoulder and back.
 
I know the natural sources of Casein are available, but for the amount of protein I need right before bed I don't want to eat that amount of food - and I prefer to not get in the added fats that goes along with those natural food choices - not before bed anyway.
 
So far get my Casein from dairy - milk, greek yogurt, cheese and ricotta cheese.

Not sure if it's my new diet and adding 4x raw eggs each day or only exercising single body part per week and more rest days BUT I'm feeling much stronger with more energy than before.
I have been increasing my PB's on everything so far, nothing better than seeing striations in your muscles all of a sudden, although mostly shoulder and back.

Don't do raw eggs.


I know the natural sources of Casein are available, but for the amount of protein I need right before bed I don't want to eat that amount of food - and I prefer to not get in the added fats that goes along with those natural food choices - not before bed anyway.

I've posted earlier in this thread, and elsewhere.
Take 40g Casein
1/2 - 1 teaspon pro10 flavouring - I like the Vanilla, Chocolate or Strawberry - Citris is vile.
100ml fat free milk
150ml water
5g glutamine.

Mix well with handblender, pop in fridge for 30min+
 
Haha. Yeah man. I saw your other post as well. Now riddle me this...what brand of Casein you buying and where and at what price ;D

Love that recipe though, got it written down.
 
Ah chin ups and pullups. I remember when i could only do 3 chin ups and 1 sort-of pull up. Now I do 8-10 chin ups and 5 pull ups per set!

Tips: As most guys have said, you can get something to place beneath your feet, but I didn't find that too helpful (it felt weird for some reason). I just focused on push ups and trying to do more chip/pull ups when I was working out. Over time I eventually got the point where I am now.

My height is about 1.7m and I'm sitting at 60kgs.
 
Haha. Yeah man. I saw your other post as well. Now riddle me this...what brand of Casein you buying and where and at what price ;D

Love that recipe though, got it written down.

Still using basicsupplement casein from early last year... bought a huge amount.
 
There was a time I couldn't do these, and I weighed less than I do now, however I can do both now, 3 sets of 8 reps, though there was time I could do 10 reps for 3 sets.

Anyways, as mentioned before, do negative reps, where you start in the top position and then as slow as possible lower yourself down to the start position. Lat pulldowns won't really help, at least it never helped me. When I couldn't do these, was before I started my Stronglifts 5x5 program, 6 months later after getting used to do heavy pendlay rows, I decided one day I am going to try wide-grip pull-ups, and I could barely do 1 rep unassisted. From there I basically just started forcing myself to do more and more reps everytime I did the exercise, which started to happen 3 times a week, mondays/wednesday/fridays.

As with most exercises, volume will become key, but if you can't do many reps, go for more sets, and then later more regularly.
Once you can do 10 reps, you are a-ok, and can start adding weight, but lets not get ahead of ourselves, you want to start with negatives, then work your way up to doing un-assisted full reps.

Lat pull-downs are just more isolated, there's no reason they shouldn't work. People are inclined to go too light though. Nothing wrong with lat pull-downs, but they don't beat pull-ups if you can do them.

Google Mike Chang and Sixpackshortcuts... best workout system I've tried. Good combination of strength training and cardio.
 
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