The Bodybuilders Thread!

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Just to add... USN pure whey is vile. It's the artificial sweetner I can't stand. I've used SA Suppliments and enjoyed it, just can't find it at the regular places.
 
WoDotNant? said:
Lat pull-downs are just more isolated, there's no reason they shouldn't work. People are inclined to go too light though. Nothing wrong with lat pull-downs, but they don't beat pull-ups if you can do them.

Google Mike Chang and Sixpackshortcuts... best workout system I've tried. Good combination of strength training and cardio.
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I had a look at sicpackshortcuts, it seems it's quite good. Am I right in thinking despite the name it is a total body workout?
 
Orihalcon said:
I know the natural sources of Casein are available, but for the amount of protein I need right before bed I don't want to eat that amount of food - and I prefer to not get in the added fats that goes along with those natural food choices - not before bed anyway.
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You do know those fats are actually good for you, and doesn't actually make you fat? It's carbohydrates that make you fat that you want to stay away from.
 
Pooky said:
I had a look at sicpackshortcuts, it seems it's quite good. Am I right in thinking despite the name it is a total body workout?
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Yeah, it's full body. I'm trying his 6 week plan including diet. Good combination of strength and cardio training.
 
WoDotNant? said:
Lat pull-downs are just more isolated, there's no reason they shouldn't work. People are inclined to go too light though. Nothing wrong with lat pull-downs, but they don't beat pull-ups if you can do them.

Google Mike Chang and Sixpackshortcuts... best workout system I've tried. Good combination of strength training and cardio.
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I agree, Lat pull-downs are more isolated, and they definitely have their place in every bodybuilder's program, heck even I do them. But in my experience, and from what I have read online, including many comments on Fitocracy, one thing people sortoff agree on, they are not that helpful to those that really want to learn to be able to do pull-ups. Many do agree on negatives, and my personal experience is, pendlay rows helped built me real strength I needed.

Will check out sixpacshortcuts, I actually need to find some good core ab exercises, I realized the other day, I may be lacking ab strength, my lower back curve way too much inward to my liking, and I want to even it out.
 
Tinuva said:
I agree, Lat pull-downs are more isolated, and they definitely have their place in every bodybuilder's program, heck even I do them. But in my experience, and from what I have read online, including many comments on Fitocracy, one thing people sortoff agree on, they are not that helpful to those that really want to learn to be able to do pull-ups. Many do agree on negatives, and my personal experience is, pendlay rows helped built me real strength I needed.

Will check out sixpacshortcuts, I actually need to find some good core ab exercises, I realized the other day, I may be lacking ab strength, my lower back curve way too much inward to my liking, and I want to even it out.
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Agree, one of the elementary principals of strength and muscle building is to work as many fibres as possible... that kick starts your natural growth hormone properly... one of the reasons compound exercises are better overall. Mike Chang does push a lot of deadlifts among other exercises so many people avoid. The principal is the same - if it's harder for you to do it, you should just try more often until it's easier.

One of Mike Chang's principal aims is core strength - you do core and shoulders in alot of his exercises. One of my fav of his workouts is this one:

[video=youtube;aC43wq0tx5o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC43wq0tx5o[/video]

That skullcrusher with the extra move really made a difference - worked a piece of my tricep I didn't know existed... and it punished me for days after. you'll notice a lot of supersets / giant sets in his workouts. HIT. Shorter time in the gym for max output.
 
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Tinuva said:
You do know those fats are actually good for you, and doesn't actually make you fat? It's carbohydrates that make you fat that you want to stay away from.
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I know that very well thank you. That's why I supp with flaxseed and the omega's and add some avo in my diet to get the full range of healthy fat doses to regulate my hormone levels and keep them constant and in optimal condition.

Carbs are not the devil people make them out to be - again it's the type of carb - processed - and the timing that's the issue. All comes together with me wanting a good pure casein supp to take before rather than taking in food that contains it as it will mess my macro count up for the food I take during the day, pre and post workout.

@Xrapid - yup. Will be going with BasicSupplements Casein as well. By far the best priced one around. Will look into those flavour additives too :)

Thanks for the tip!
 
Yup was just wondering why you want to stay away from fat while the real problem is not fat. You are spot on about processed vs non-processed carbs.
 
WoDotNant? said:
Agree, one of the elementary principals of strength and muscle building is to work as many fibres as possible... that kick starts your natural growth hormone properly... one of the reasons compound exercises are better overall. Mike Chang does push a lot of deadlifts among other exercises so many people avoid. The principal is the same - if it's harder for you to do it, you should just try more often until it's easier.

One of Mike Chang's principal aims is core strength - you do core and shoulders in alot of his exercises. One of my fav of his workouts is this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC43wq0tx5o

That skullcrusher with the extra move really made a difference - worked a piece of my tricep I didn't know existed... and it punished me for days after. you'll notice a lot of supersets / giant sets in his workouts. HIT. Shorter time in the gym for max output.
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That extra move behind the head looks excellent. Will definitely try it out some time.

Also look up JM Presses, love those, and they help a bit with Bench Press too.
 
Tinuva said:
That extra move behind the head looks excellent. Will definitely try it out some time.

Also look up JM Presses, love those, and they help a bit with Bench Press too.
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Nice... that JM looks pretty effective. Always wanted a free weight alternative to tricep push-down
 
xrapidx said:
If you can stomach unflavoured casein :eek:
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I once had a mouthful of an expired egg based protein suppliment. Man that was fowl :D
Wonder if unflavoured casein is worse. Never tried casein - whats the magic with it?
 
WoDotNant? said:
I once had a mouthful of an expired egg based protein suppliment. Man that was fowl :D
Wonder if unflavoured casein is worse. Never tried casein - whats the magic with it?
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To me, it taste vile, like sour lumpy milk - the only flavouring that works seems to be the Pro10 flavouring, I've tried Nesqwik, coffee, etc...
 
xrapidx said:
To me, it taste vile, like sour lumpy milk - the only flavouring that works seems to be the Pro10 flavouring, I've tried Nesqwik, coffee, etc...
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Thanks, I'll have to give it a try. Any idea of the magic in casein? Easy to digest?
 
Aaah, cool, ta. Ja, provided it doesn't cause havoc while sleeping, sounds like a good idea. I'm not too fussy with taste - if I feel the benefit is worth it, I just down it :)
 
Yes indeed. It is a very slow digesting protein. And since the key for muscle performance and building is active possitive protein synthesis in the body...taking casein when you go to bed is a good idea. The optimal amino breakdown and release occurs between 3-5 hours after digestion - hitting you during the middle to end of your sleep cycle. Perfect for when you get up and maybe do fasted cardio.

As for taste...never really bugged me either...but if the stuff DOES taste as foul as you describe...will docter it with some cinnemon - my go to flavour for anything and everything hehe.

Thank you for the info! Now just waiting on BasicSupps to get back to me...pity they don't have a damn phone number!
 
Might be relevant to people's interests:

Am currently watching a BBC documentary called The Truth about Exercise. It's quite interesting so far and I recommend people here get it.
 
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