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Tinuva
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I haven't seen anyone shake on deadlift yet, definitely new to me to hear this on a pull exercise. Usually you will see the shaking on push exercises like the bench press. This usually happen with guys who are new to lifting, but in this case, it sounds like a guy going far to heavy and the cognitive system is not ready for that amount of weight yet. The brain is trying to ensure the survival of your body, and not to hurt yourself, and so, it is actually trying to not let the muscles do the work in fear of the muscles tearing, whilst the guy is mentally trying to ignore those built in signals. Now usually this is not a problem at this heavy weight, because most lifters will work their way up gradually, which means the brain gradually get accustomed to the heavier weight and thus won't send this signals to the muscles to not contract.
The other thing it could be, but I doubt it is in this case, is the stabilizer muscles are far too weak to keep everything stable, and thus you shake. This one specifically happen in push exercises, I have never seen it being a problem in pull exercises because pull exercises usually pulls everything together. So I think it is the above one.
Hehe been there done that too, but there are ways you can prevent it.
1. make sure you are not under eating, the heavier you lift, the more energy your body need, so as you want to go up in weights you lift, eat more
2. also make sure you are always hydrated
3. I hope you warmed up enough before lifting too heavy. I warm up before hand by doing extra lightweight sets, but I don't do them fast, I do them at the same rate and tempo I would do my heavy weights. This helps you then to practice form and warm up the muscles at the same time. Stretching you do after you done with all your lifting exercises to cool down.
Thats a lot for a stiffleg deadlift... I sometimes shake afterwards and want to throw up.
1. I usually eat 1-2 bananas on my way to gym, or do you mean in general?
2. Will do
3. I go for a short slow jog after stretching my legs, just about 500m on the treadmill.
It gets my legs moving and ups my heart rate a bit, then I start to lift.
Also the first two sets are warm up sets @ 60% and 80%
But for nearly everything I do not know how heavy I can go; I do not have a spotter and I do not want to tear something trying.
Tinuva
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For 1, I meant in general, you need to eat more total calories, so that your body has the energy at it's disposal when you want to lift heavy. In my experience, some eating before going to gym is not enough, because that energy takes too long to get into your system, for me personally 4 hours minimum before hand I need to get the energy in, the only alternative is a pre-workout booster, but I save this for when I cut, not when I bulk or want to go up in weights I can lift. Going heavier on lifts is kinda the same as bulking, except you want to get stronger and use more energy as opposed to having your muscles grow, so you use the energy to lift instead of growing muscles.
Stretching before you warmed up, can hurt your muscles in the long run, from most articles I have read online, best practice is, warm up to get the blood flowing and heart rate up, as well as warm up the muscles that you will be using. Cardio however before lifting is counter-productive, because you are using the energy that you want to save for the lifting and it breaks down muscle, so it is good that you have warm up sets, but rather do like 5-8 warmup sets, and skip the jogging for warm up. Then when you done lifting, then you can go jog to burn those extra calories if you are busy cutting. The warm-up sets are great, because it targets the exact same muscles you will be using when you lift heavy.
Will do on the warm up sets.
On this, I am actually confused as to what i should be doing.
I am doing the 5x5 3 days a week because I want to get some more muscle tone, the other two days I do bootcamp so I can do warrior races etc. It might actually be counter productive to do the extreme cardio, but i need to be fit.
My aim with the weights is more of a natural (toned?) look vs the bodybuilder look.
So more fight club than terminator
On this, I am actually confused as to what i should be doing.
I am doing the 5x5 3 days a week because I want to get some more muscle tone, the other two days I do bootcamp so I can do warrior races etc. It might actually be counter productive to do the extreme cardio, but i need to be fit.
My aim with the weights is more of a natural (toned?) look vs the bodybuilder look.
So more fight club than terminator
Tinuva
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It is tough to balance fitness and strength/bulking, your body will always prefer cutting mass including muscles if you go in for fitness.kolaval said:On this, I am actually confused as to what i should be doing.
I am doing the 5x5 3 days a week because I want to get some more muscle tone, the other two days I do bootcamp so I can do warrior races etc. It might actually be counter productive to do the extreme cardio, but i need to be fit.
My aim with the weights is more of a natural (toned?) look vs the bodybuilder look.
So more fight club than terminator
If you are doing 5x5 I assume you are still a beginner with the lifting part and want to gain some strenght (which is good), in which case I think you don't have to worry too much, just realize the fitness training on the other days will slow you down. Once you have gained the strength you are looking to get out of the 5x5 program, I think you should follow a lifting program catered towards fitness. Ie. a lifting program based on HIIT, so you follow a HIIT protocol, but instead of running/cardio you do lighter weights. That will also give you fitness and keep the muscles toned, but at the same time burn energy to keep fat levels down.
CrazYmonkeY159
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Hey guys, I live in Cape Town and I'm looking for a digital scale to weigh my food when I prepare meals so I can accurately calculate my caloric/carb intake.
This one costs R440 looks good and has free shipping
Although I'm looking for something cheaper, I'm sure my mom got one for less than half that price.
any pointers would be great.
This one costs R440 looks good and has free shipping
Although I'm looking for something cheaper, I'm sure my mom got one for less than half that price.
any pointers would be great.
RogueTr00per
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Awesome advice as usual Tinuva! I'm stopping Kettlebell training as I head into June and will hit the heavy lifts again next week. Will also need to eat more as you said and as highlighted by this article on genetic potential by Eat to Perform!
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InternetSwag
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Is it possible to get sugar poisoning?
I ate a shiit load of carbs to hit my caloric intake over the last 10 months.
Lots of times it's empty calories as well (soda)
I can't stand sugary things now, I feel poisoned. I tried drinking coke, I can't stand it. Coffee with sugar? Want to hurl.
I can eat other things though. How strange.
I ate a shiit load of carbs to hit my caloric intake over the last 10 months.
Lots of times it's empty calories as well (soda)
I can't stand sugary things now, I feel poisoned. I tried drinking coke, I can't stand it. Coffee with sugar? Want to hurl.
I can eat other things though. How strange.
RogueTr00per
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Not a bad problem to have IS But now u gonna have to eat loads of "clean" foods to hit your macros I suppose if u dislike sugar. Or time to hit fast food joints where the sugar is hidden 
i have a huge sweet tooth and even i get sick of sugary type stuff. Happened last night after training, my body was craving calories!
But now u gonna have to eat loads of "clean" foods to hit your macros I suppose if u dislike sugar. Or time to hit fast food joints where the sugar is hidden i have a huge sweet tooth and even i get sick of sugary type stuff. Happened last night after training, my body was craving calories!
Same here, cant stand very sweet stuff like coke and even coffee with sugar or sugar on my oats, yuck.
I seem to have a craving for fruit these days though, I try limit it eating apples, bananas before my workout at least.
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See, this is why I hang around here. As a total beginner to all things fitness and building I am beginning to understand my body and it's potential. To begin with I was sitting on 76Kg's looking a bit fatties in my face and a hint of beer belly. By no stroke of the imagination though was I fat, far from it actually. At this point I begun 5x5 more as a way to get me into the gym and get going on something fitness related.
After the first week of being completely bushed, unable to move (not an exaggeration) I managed to get myself back into the swing of things and returning to the gym, with more realistic weights and a better understanding of my currently levels of fitness. My intention then was to get my fitness levels 'up' and hopefully gain some muscle mass to avoid that emaciated look I'd been donning for years.
Well, the opposite has happened and I am rather pleased. It appears that to begin with I did put on some muscle, bringing me up to 78Kg's. All seemed to be going well though I had hoped I'd see less of the tummy making an appearance after three weeks. Alas, this didn't happen. However my the 5th week I'd gone down to 74Kg's and made noticeable gains in my shoulders, back and arms. By the 6th week I lost another 2kg's and began wondering WTF was happening...
So I did a bit of digging around and have come to the conclusion that there are different processes happening here and that my specific type of body (and the way my parents are, coincidently) is bound to be lean before it gets mean. I've lost 9% body fat (according to the VA machine), and I can see where that fat has moved. By body has done what it was designed to do, eat into my fat reserves when it needed to.
Now I feel that the ball is in my court to eat the right things to continue building the muscle, without overdoing it. I shall revert back here when I have come to a conclusion about how I am going to achieve this.
I've been using ON 100% gold standard whey protein for more than 3 years now. Love the protein. However due to me trying to cut down on my monthly expenses i want to try a cheaper whey. Is USN 100% whey really that bad as what people make it out to be?
Kornhub
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Not sure but I would rather go for evox
I'm on 100% USN whey at the moment and feel it's better than the Evox I was on, I take 2 shakes a day.
I have put on weight but not on my stomach since taking it BUT I have also been hammering the Creatine - 5g in the morning, 5g pre-workout and 5g after workout so that could be the real reason I'm seeing better gains.
I don't think I'll go back to Evox just yet as I never really saw decent results from it IMO.
I'm also doing a major equipment upgrade on my home gym this coming week so will have access to most of the equipment the gym rats have but at home, so I'm expecting major muscle gains in the next couple of months and plan's are afoot to clean my diet more.
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Kornhub
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I was looking for a cheap one but realised it was concentrate http://www.supplementworld.co.za/supplement-factory-raw-whey-concentrate.html 
Tinuva
The Magician
You will certainly notice a huge difference.
ON has:
- great taste
- mix super easy (i use a spoon in glass when I am lazy to use a shaker, hate cleaning it afterwards)
- I like the extra ingredients, like lactase enzyme to help people who are lactose intolerant ect, so you have a lot less gas, and thus less to no farting
But it is expensive as you say. You can try the other whey proteins, but none of them taste and mix as good as ON. They however do work, and work out A LOT cheaper.
I've bought SSN's 100% Whey.. decently priced at R369 from Dischem.
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