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Tinuva
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Been thinking a bit more, it could also be just a small muscle in the forearm, so it's not to say it definitely is a ligament. Lets say it was a small muscle, the approach would be a little different. You may need to do something, with very small weights, that target this stabilizer muscle, to help it grow stronger, just enough to let it grow, and not too much to break it. If this is the case, I actually don't have the knowledge or experience on how to fix it, a physio therapist will definitely be able to help you. Especially if you are on a medical aid, try to make use of it before you break it too much, I think is the best advice I can give. Don't go to the Doctor, their only advice is...stop exercise.hambone said:
Now in my own experience, I once though I hurt muscles around my ribcase, while in fact I actually cracked a rib by having the muscles pull too hard on it. A whole week I was in excruciating pain, so went to physio and 2 weeks later I was perfect again. Fastest recovery every IMHO. If I ever have the slightest little pain again that is not normal, that is the first thing I personally would do. In fact, there is a physio therapist at Discovery rates here in my office park, so I can just slip out for a session and slip back in.
Well done!! That is amazing!hambone said:
I really like stories like this, and yes a community helps quite a bit. You doing pretty well with the squats, I still remember trying to break 60kg on squats the first time I did it, it definitely is an achievement to get to. You probably will now want to get to double plates, which I have been to, but working again to get back to, it is quite a journey.
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Well I can now do 60kg close grip bench press for 8 reps
Triceps are strong as ****.
Also 80kg for 3 reps today on flat bench
Chest is weak as **** >.>
Triceps are strong as ****.
Also 80kg for 3 reps today on flat bench
Chest is weak as **** >.>I'm on week 7 of SL5x5 and going strong, since starting I have lost 10% body fat and down to 82kgs from 91kgs. Same as Hambone this is my first foray into this sort of thing.
My only issue so far is a knot of pain at the base of my spine that is increasing in severity. Is this normal?
My only issue so far is a knot of pain at the base of my spine that is increasing in severity. Is this normal?
Tinuva
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Doesn't sound good either. Both you guys sounds like you have impressive gains, however yours sounds like you are doing something wrong, my spine never hurt going through the SL5x5 program, I hurt a lot of other things, however it came down to me having bad form on some of the exercises.
When you feel the pain, is it daily, or immediately or day or 2 after doing squats or deadlifts?
CrazYmonkeY159
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9KG in 7 weeks, I wish T_T, Just started calorie counting 2 weeks ago. I've been 120KG constantly for a year, (I've been lifting for 1 year on and off and thereafter 1 year of dedicated training) My lifting numbers are impressive, but they are not impressive for someone my size. I have already felt the energy drain from my daily caloric deficit, the main thing keeping my workouts as intense is pre-workout, I have no idea how my workouts will feel come month end when I have to stop taking pre-workouts for another month
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You seem to understand what I am talking about though either way. The pain begins about two finger spaces below where a nurse would take blood and 'shoots' to just below where my bicep begins. Looking at the outstreached left arm, palms up, it moves from left to right. I honestly don't know enough about how these things work, but my brain tells me that I should stop and do something else before it becomes a problem. However, I will continue to do other exercises that 'generally' strengthen my left arm, particularly the forearm as I believe that is the source of the problem. The EZbar certainly does the trick and hopefully long term will sort itself out.
Medical aid said they would pay for three (a whole three) sessions at the physio. I'm looking at going anyway to sort out my workchair induced headaches which are becoming a problem so will definitely ask and heed their advice and get back here to give others an update.
It makes such a difference having a knowledgable bunch here who are, for the most part, encouraging of first-timers. One thing I learned pretty quickly is that most people look ridiculous when working out and I've managed to bury my pride and get on with what I went to gym to do. By far the biggest hurdle was the first week - I literally could not move without wanting to pass out from the muscle fatigue. Thankfully that's a thing of the past and the soreness feels like a healthier burn. I'm still a bit weary of falling over backwards on the squats, more to do with confidence levels than inability at this level though. I find it really interesting though that so few people are doing squats where I gym though. Those that are though are in fantastic shape.
Another thing that I've come to really value is planning my routine beforehand on either the Fitness Buddy or Fitocracy app. Going to the gym without a plan is a complete waste of time and money IMO. By setting goals before I can almost feel my brain prepping me for the onslaught of whats to come and have more time to do the exercises I've set for myself without having to think something up. Having the app helps to ensure that I have some schweet tjoons to keep me occupied and gives me at least a minute to organise myself between sets, almost forcing me to take a reasonable amount of rest time.
Is it a pinching pain? If so, I reckon you follow the physio advice given above. If it's a general kind of aching then I would make double sure your form is perfect and ask one of the people hanging about who look approachable to show you proper form. Anyway, congrats too on keeping at it for your 7 weeks - long may it last!
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I also get that feeling especially when I go heavy, I find what I then do is lean forward a bit.
I was last in a gym in 2006 and also hardly ever so guys squatting, leg press got plenty of attention.
I watch YouTube videos of the exercises I want to do on my iPad before I hit the gym, I'm even thinking my routine through on my way driving home, the way people around me drive as well upsets me which I then take out on the weights like yesterday when I assaulted my shoulders with heavy weights.
Tinuva
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I wonder. Why do you guys think your chest is weak?Well I can now do 60kg close grip bench press for 8 reps
Triceps are strong as ****.
Also 80kg for 3 reps today on flat bench
You are what, ~75kg bodyweight, you bench more than your bodyweight, and you think your chest are weak?
Why do you think someone that bench 100kg+ are stronger? What if you knew their bodyweight was also more than 100kg, would you still think they are stronger than you? Maybe straight up they are, but then again they also weigh a lot more, but in comparison to their bodyweight, they are actually not as strong as you.
Strength and looks are to be compared very differently.
Looks are muscle size + low bodyfat.
Strength you need to take your bodyweight into comparison, why else do you think all power-lifting competitions have bodyweight classes?
If anything, I bet your squat and deadlift is weaker than your flat bench press. If you can bench 80kg, you should be able to squat 100kg for the same reps, and deadlift 135kg for the same reps. Can you do that?
Tinuva
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hambone said:
Best of luck with that! Its probably harder than it was to start going to gym regularly. Watch your fitness skyrocket when you stop though.
I thinks its my form, I have recorded myself and I'm thinking of seeing a PT for some pointers as I train alone at home. The pain is most severe post workout and gradually declines until its a sort of dull ache but persists till my next training day.
The thing is I think its getting worse with each increase in weight, not sure if I should deload or stop completely, I just took 4 days off and that hasn't done anything to stop the discomfort.
My OHP stall and this pain notwithstanding I think this program is excellent, coupled with the motivation on here I think I'm on the right path.
Tinuva
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Try to upload the video to youtube and make it only visible to people with the link. Then send the link perhaps we can give you some pointers before you see a PT which can be expensive. That said, I would spend the money on Physio if I didn't have a medical aid.
There are so many things though that could be the problem, which is why a video will help most.
On the top of my head:
- high-bar squat vs low-bar squat is done very different, so need to know which one you do, I think high-bar hurts less but are more difficult
- your body type, ectomorphs are safer doing high-bar squat vs others doing low-bar easier
- how do you start the movement, ie I queue it by moving my butt out just slightly so that I have a smooth movement going down, but I keep my back fairly straight-upwards throughout the movement when doing high-bar squat, with low-bar squat my back is more 45 degrees forward and puts a lot more pressure on my spine.
- what is your deadlift weight vs your squat weight, I found pushing really hard on deadlift strengthened my whole back more making squats easier.
- another important fact, is your stance, how wide is your feed apart, and how much are they pointing out. They should be about shoulder width, maybe just just wider but not much, and then pointed almost straight forward, but a little out to to sides.
- then when you go up, is your butt lifting up faster than your shoulders? This is a big problem and will hurt your back and spine in the long run, the idea is to keep your back the same position or let it go up the same speed as the butt, early is ok, but never after.
Anyway, that is only some of the things I could think of right now.
Tinuva
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Ah you are not far behind me. Currently at 90kg squat (have done 110kg in the past for like 1-2 reps, but I was at higher bodyweight) and 110kg deadlift @ bodyweight of 70kg atm.
So your ratios look good so far, you may have to eat a bit more to make sure your body has the energy to do the lift.
For me, I gym in the mornings, so my most important meal is the one before I go to bed, and then again after the gym session. For people going later in the day, they will need a big meal 2-3 hours before the time, not too close to your gym time.
So your ratios look good so far, you may have to eat a bit more to make sure your body has the energy to do the lift.
For me, I gym in the mornings, so my most important meal is the one before I go to bed, and then again after the gym session. For people going later in the day, they will need a big meal 2-3 hours before the time, not too close to your gym time.
I'm on my third chicken breast for the day, really dry and chewy, last night it was all nice and succulent.
Chicken and veg for lunch, then 1hr before session, 1 small scoop whey, 5g creatine and an apple, found this works best for me after 3 months of trying other pre-workout tips.
After workout, 2 scoops whey, 5g creatine with whole milk - yummy.
Also starting taking 5g creatine with my firs morning shake.
Chicken and veg for lunch, then 1hr before session, 1 small scoop whey, 5g creatine and an apple, found this works best for me after 3 months of trying other pre-workout tips.
After workout, 2 scoops whey, 5g creatine with whole milk - yummy.
Also starting taking 5g creatine with my firs morning shake.
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InternetSwag
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I have unrealistic expectations of myself.
But you actually put it into very good perspective Tinuva. I can't Squat 80 kg's and atm I sure as hell can't Deadlift 80kg's, albeit I could before
I guess my fixation with bench press is that the first thing people ask when they hear you work out is, 'oh how much can you bench?'
Tinuva
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Heh, well there ya goI have unrealistic expectations of myself.
But you actually put it into very good perspective Tinuva. I can't Squat 80 kg's and atm I sure as hell can't Deadlift 80kg's, albeit I could before
I guess my fixation with bench press is that the first thing people ask when they hear you work out is, 'oh how much can you bench?'
Deadlift and Squats stats are more impressive than bench stats!
Is that 1 rep max? Or standard 10 reps? Your legs are a bit out of proportion.
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Tinuva
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I am going to assume 5 reps. That is what SL5x5 is based on which he is doing as a beginner. I wouldn't say that put legs out of proportion, it sounds good to me.
On the other side, you have most guys legs are under developed, at least that goes for 90% guys I see in the gym. Like them chicken legs!
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