The Bodybuilders Thread!

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xrapidx said:
That thing is borked. - I put in 210kg x 1, and it estimated my max as 240kg.
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Strange, but then again, I also think it works out some of my 1RM too high.

Hemps said:
overhead press I take from the rack onto my shoulder, I assume they referring to that as in Military press
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I also go by the assumption you take it from the rack, however mine is more like a military press than a push press. Seen guys doing push presses for 60-80kg at the gym, though I like the military press style more, even though I know its a lot harder.
 
I also go by the assumption you take it from the rack, however mine is more like a military press than a push press. Seen guys doing push presses for 60-80kg at the gym, though I like the military press style more, even though I know its a lot harder.
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I take the bar from the rack and step back 2 paces and then military press the weight, keep slight bend in knees.
Has always been my favourite exercises and why I liked clean and press so much.

wonder why my chest is so weak but excel in other shoulder exercises.

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xrapidx said:
A push press doesnt count towards the weight in an overhead press... I use the method on my first rep... for some reason I struggle with the first rep of everything :p
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Maybe it is because you are used to using the kind of bounce you can get when you go down. I bet if you go down slower, then pause at the bottom of the lift, you will have the same problem. Ie you are weaker at the bottom part than the middle and upper part of the lift. I have the same problem when I get close to my max, but on lower sets its fine.
 
Tinuva said:
Maybe it is because you are used to using the kind of bounce you can get when you go down. I bet if you go down slower, then pause at the bottom of the lift, you will have the same problem. Ie you are weaker at the bottom part than the middle and upper part of the lift. I have the same problem when I get close to my max, but on lower sets its fine.
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Nah - its timed, I come to a 1second rest at the bottom.

(Its with all lifts, think its a mental thing)
 
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My max bench is 81kgs :( which is about right actually, really need to improve things there.

Deadlifts I can improve with chalk which I dont have anymore.

Military presses I'm fine with, hurts my back and traps If I go any higher, prefer volume these days to killing myself with huge weights.
 
cant believe people still take supplements. Real food people that's were the magic lies .you don't need supps to lean out or build muscle. 134kg to 105kg feb to nov
 
bakkies said:
cant believe people still take supplements. Real food people that's were the magic lies .you don't need supps to lean out or build muscle. 134kg to 105kg feb to nov
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For me it is how I can fill up my intake every day without spending forever on prep and a fortune in food.
 
Hemps said:
My max bench is 81kgs :( which is about right actually, really need to improve things there.

Military presses I'm fine with, hurts my back and traps If I go any higher, prefer volume these days to killing myself with huge weights.
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Try training your tri's more with bench.

With OHP - you're probably over extending your back... I do it too...
 
bakkies said:
cant believe people still take supplements. Real food people that's were the magic lies .you don't need supps to lean out or build muscle. 134kg to 105kg feb to nov
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1.) Cheaper
2.) Quicker (I don't have time to cook and prepare 4000-4500 calories)
 
i prefer the real thing to tabs and shakes and the results is in the pudding and if i need a high double expresso does the trick
 
i prefer the real thing to tabs and shakes and the results is in the pudding and if i need a high double expresso does the trick
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When I look at what supps we have around today and what little if any the guys in Arnolds day had, you have a point on the wholesome food story.
Even if you read Arnolds Bodybuilding Encyclopedia he mentions wholesome foods as apposed to supps.


Try training your tri's more with bench.
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Think you right, maybe need to build myself a dip station.
 
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xrapidx said:
Nah - its timed, I come to a 1second rest at the bottom.

(Its with all lifts, think its a mental thing)
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Ok fair enough :)

Hemps said:
My max bench is 81kgs :( which is about right actually, really need to improve things there.
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Definitely think you can increase that, thinking back about the deadlift numbers you posted here, your back and legs must be in excellent shape, with chest a little behind.

Hemps said:
Military presses I'm fine with, hurts my back and traps If I go any higher, prefer volume these days to killing myself with huge weights.
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I had the same problem, recently before I could take my PRs up. Since moving to a powerbodybuilding (I think this is the new name given to these recently) program, I added volume, dynamic effort ect to all my workouts, and I think the volume is the reason I could up my PRs on this lift (OHP that is) without the back/neck pain I used to get on max weights here.

The idea of adding volume to my OHP came from a random guy on Fitocracy, thought he was crazy or but tried it anyway, seemed to have worked for me.

bakkies said:
cant believe people still take supplements. Real food people that's were the magic lies .you don't need supps to lean out or build muscle. 134kg to 105kg feb to nov
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I agree with you to an extent. If you are a beginner, by all means, first learn the basics, no supps, just real food. Past posts in this thread by me is proof of that. Then after a while I realized I've hit a plateau. After adding a few supps, I am gaining again full steam ahead. The alternative was to spend half my day on only preparing and eating, and unfortunately, I work full time, and on top of training I also have other extra cerucilar activities that I can't skip.

So, once you have the basics down eg.
- Train like a beast
- Eat like a beast
- Sleep like a beast,
Only then you are ready to actually go to a higher level with supps in my opinion.
 
bakkies said:
will you be taking supplements for the rest of you life.
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Trick question, but here is my answer:

For the time being, while I am working on doing a massive bulk, I will be taking it, and then re-evaluate. Once I am done and have my body the way I like it, I will probably find a way to make due without supplements, thus, I use it as a way to help breaking current plateaus and to make the progress a little bit faster, if I didn't want/need that, I wouldn't need/want supplements.

Thus no, but at least I have a very good reason for using it now.
 
Definitely think you can increase that, thinking back about the deadlift numbers you posted here, your back and legs must be in excellent shape, with chest a little behind.
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Last year I started Clean and Press and loved it, the weights got higher and higher.
Middle of this year I started Deadlifts and packed on weight quickly, my grip kept me back, I found some chalk which I used and it worked well.
No more chalk so I have stalled a bit, I can feel I can go more but my grip fails, I have also increased back and leg strength by pushing my car in our garage ala strongman type exercise, I have a 4 car garage with slight incline.
start at the bottom and push to the top then slowly hold it back while I reverse down, killer on everything and makes me tired come 8pm I feel exhausted.
I also have 2x 50kg sand/cement bags I carry up and down, try to do as many trips as possible in 2min.
Chest I'm short as I don't do dips I think but only skullcrushers and triceps pushdowns.

But Ja I'm really excited my back can take so much weight, with legs my knees and feet feel it a bit though, I often have sore ankles when lifting or pushing big, maybe 'cause I train barefoot

In the New Year I'll get into Squats.

For back I also - place a barbell on the floor, load up one side with 80kg+, the other end in a corner so it doesn't move, I then bend over, bar between my legs and lift the heavy end up to my chest making sure not to swing to weight up - similar to t-bar rows - I do 5 sets of 8 reps - it doesnt hurt my back but was wondering if this is an OK exercise?
 
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