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scud said:
By revoked article 50 you mean they stay in eu indefinitely? Status quo
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Yes, the EU courts have already confirmed the UK may unilaterally cancel / revoke their article 50 notice, which would mean status quo and staying in the EU forever.

The UK parliament might do that and sell it as "just temporary while we finalize our strategy for brexit blablablabla", but if they go there they will never leave.

I think even that is more likely than hard / no deal brexit, which is sad.
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
Yes, the EU courts have already confirmed the UK may unilaterally cancel / revoke their article 50 notice, which would mean status quo and staying in the EU forever.

The UK parliament might do that and sell it as "just temporary while we finalize our strategy for brexit blablablabla", but if they go there they will never leave.

I think even that is more likely than hard / no deal brexit, which is sad.
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I so hate to say this, but I agree with you.:D
 
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It will be extension of art 50 and then eventual adoption of the Norway model (or something close to it).
Brexit in name only.
Basically UK stays in single market with all the rules and regulations that entails + fee movement, but losing decision making power.

As Britain is the strongest military power in W.Europe, this will result in an even better balance of power than that which delivered the spectacularly successful détente post WW2.

Brexit is delivering on my wildest dreams, and even improving the chances of Irish reunification.
 
Verde said:
It will be extension of art 50 and then eventual adoption of the Norway model (or something close to it).
Brexit in name only.
Basically UK stays in single market with all the rules and regulations that entails + fee movement, but losing decision making power.

As Britain is the strongest military power in W.Europe, this will result in an even better balance of power than that which delivered the spectacularly successful détente post WW2.

Brexit is delivering on my wildest dreams, and even improving the chances of Irish reunification.
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I would argue that France wields greater military power.
 
buka001 said:
I would argue that France wields greater military power.
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They do, they're the strongest European power behind Russia, I think UK are just behind France. They've got a similar budget and military to Germany. Then again as NBFTW mentioned the French do have a nasty habit of losing.
 
theratman said:
They do, they're the strongest European power behind Russia, I think UK are just behind France. They've got a similar budget and military to Germany. Then again as NBFTW mentioned the French do have a nasty habit of losing.
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The French and Germans are ideologically close, so the imbalance in power caused by Germany not having nukes is not as great as that between Germany and the UK.
 
OrbitalDawn said:
Hate Corbyn, Hate Brexit an option?
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Yes. I don't "hate" Corbyn, but I do think he's a magic mirror wherein everyone sees their self-generated fears appear.
It's funny how much the Beeb and even Sky go out of their way to malign him and how the Tories appear poop-scared of grandpa.
 
Aquila ka Hecate said:
Yes. I don't "hate" Corbyn, but I do think he's a magic mirror wherein everyone sees their self-generated fears appear.
It's funny how much the Beeb and even Sky go out of their way to malign him and how the Tories appear poop-scared of grandpa.
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Yeah, I'd agree with that. But I just also think he's a terrible leader for Labour. Ineffectual, vague and in the wrong on a lot of things (imo, of course).
 
Aquila ka Hecate said:
Yes. I don't "hate" Corbyn, but I do think he's a magic mirror wherein everyone sees their self-generated fears appear.
It's funny how much the Beeb and even Sky go out of their way to malign him and how the Tories appear poop-scared of grandpa.
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Yeah, he does get a hella bad press. But I think he's just acts as the leader of a clique, and not the labour party as a whole, , which seems to be lacking direction at times.

It often happens with countries with first past the post systems that have this leadership issue. As they discourage smaller, focused parties from allowing to grow. So you have only 2 main parties, one left and one right....and no matter how close or far from the extremes you are, you are limited in options. So labour encompasses the far left as well as centre left whose opinions are sometime chalk and cheese.
 
Now, people who have lived in the UK all their lives are now being forced to pay 65 quid to stay? Sounds a bit like 1940's Germany...
 
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