The Brexit Thread

[zippy]

Sorry, that was incredibly clumsy writing. I’m in a passenger seat in a car, I’ll blame the driver talking to me as a distraction.

So...

In a survey before the UK general election in 2010, only 1% said Europe was an issue in deciding who to vote for.

Basically it was never an issue until the EU financial regulations were going to change and rich British people stood to lose money.

Wave a Union Jack around, a little bit of Rule Britannia and bingo. Rich people keep their money.

People in the street? Well, let’s see. But at the moment the only difference I can envisage is having to pay for a visa to go to Spain on holiday.

The benefits remain to be seen. But I’m not optimistic.

The only difference from today is that the EU can change regulations and the U.K. has no say and has to comply. For the rest of the year. Oh and the U.K. keeps paying into the EU until the end of the year.

As far as trade negotiations go, the U.K. goes into these from a weakened position. The Americans are gonna squeeze us. The Australians might feel pity. The Chinese probably already added Huawai into the mix.
We will get a “good” deal from SA because they are in even more s###t than us, which in the grand scheme of things is going to be worth little because the market in SA is minuscule.

And the EU is gonna say fu, your factories and financial services are already opening up branches in Ireland, France, Norway, Canada etc., so you don’t actually anything to offer other than Nigel Farage and you know where you can shove him

 

[BandwidthAddict]

Congrats to the UK for regaining sovereignty.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

The only difference from today is that the EU can change regulations and the U.K. has no say and has to comply

been asleep the last 40 years? that is not a difference from today, that has been the status quo for decades

at least the countdown on that complete horseshyte has been started

 

[Dave]

But you are a South African, with a British passport thinking about moving to Australia.

Isn't he actually an Australian immigrant living in South Africa who happens to have a British passport and is thinking of moving back to Australia?

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Impressive size considering London is Remoaner Central.

 

[Whright]

The only difference from today is that the EU can change regulations and the U.K. has no say and has to comply. For the rest of the year. Oh and the U.K. keeps paying into the EU until the end of the year.

As far as trade negotiations go, the U.K. goes into these from a weakened position. The Americans are gonna squeeze us. The Australians might feel pity. The Chinese probably already added Huawai into the mix.
We will get a “good” deal from SA because they are in even more s###t than us, which in the grand scheme of things is going to be worth little because the market in SA is minuscule.

And the EU is gonna say fu, your factories and financial services are already opening up branches in Ireland, France, Norway, Canada etc., so you don’t actually anything to offer other than Nigel Farage and you know where you can shove him

zippy, Brexit is still fresh and one day old, now is your last chance to quickly make a move to Greece, Germany,France or maybe even Poland. No need to suffer in sovereign Britain.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

The only difference from today is that the EU can change regulations and the U.K. has no say and has to comply. For the rest of the year. Oh and the U.K. keeps paying into the EU until the end of the year.

As far as trade negotiations go, the U.K. goes into these from a weakened position. The Americans are gonna squeeze us. The Australians might feel pity. The Chinese probably already added Huawai into the mix.
We will get a “good” deal from SA because they are in even more s###t than us, which in the grand scheme of things is going to be worth little because the market in SA is minuscule.

And the EU is gonna say fu, your factories and financial services are already opening up branches in Ireland, France, Norway, Canada etc., so you don’t actually anything to offer other than Nigel Farage and you know where you can shove him

Well that's odd because I read many financial firms are opening up offices in the UK: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...to-open-uk-offices-after-brexit-idUSKBN1ZJ00D

Perhaps if you knew the UK is the world's seventh biggest economy and punches well above its weight considering its population size, you might not make such ridiculous comments. Businesses leaving the UK en masse? Get a grip!

 

[BBSA]

Who is next?

 

[The Voice]

Only 13 hours have passed and Remainers already have their "We told you so!" placards out.

For ****'s sake, give it time. It took us four years to even get here after a democratic vote because of all your meddling - please don't make the next stage anymore uncomfortable for everyone than it needs to be, because yes, it's going to be a bumpy ride, and no, we may not get every deal exactly as we want it. We knew that yesterday, and we knew it in 2016. But we at least now have the option to do what we want, with whichever country we want. But please, stand together. The whining isn't going to change anything. You're never going to reverse the decision now. Brexit is the reality. And your country still needs you., whether you want it or not.

All the red tape is going to start disappearing over the next 11 months, and each week we'll start seeing positive changes, until it's all done officially by (hopefully) 31 December.

It really sunk in last night while I was watching all the live streams. No, I wasn't one of the thousands gathered in London last night - it was typical British weather, cold and damp - quite fitting if you ask me. The projection of the countdown and "goodbye" in all European languages onto the cliffs in Dover was an amazing touch. The countdown projected onto Number 10 a bit cheesy, I'll admit, but it coincided with the bell chiming at 11PM. And then Boris gave his speech from inside. A fitting end to what has been a 47-year old relationship that has run its course.

To take some inspiration from Sturgeon quoting Mandela the other day: we are "free, at last".

 

[buka001]

So what jobs will people be able to get, that they could not before?

Why would supermarket prices go down, when all goods were already on tariff free trade deal?

What new industry or services can the UK engage with now, that can define a new Empire, that they could not do before?

 

[ToxicBunny]

So what jobs will people be able to get, that they could not before?

Why would supermarket prices go down, when all goods were already on tariff free trade deal?

What new industry or services can the UK engage with now, that can define a new Empire, that they could not do before?

Don't ask for details.... Just know that it will be that way because they said so

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

So what jobs will people be able to get, that they could not before?

ANY job that is made possible only through trade with a business or country that previously was impossible e.g. a USA based company that opens a UK branch now that it has favourable (hypothetically) conditions to mainland Europe.

Why would supermarket prices go down, when all goods were already on tariff free trade deal?

Because goods from other countries are cheaper than goods from the EU, duh, chicken from Brazil / USA for example, the Brits may now have it if they wish, previously they could not.

What new industry or services can the UK engage with now, that can define a new Empire, that they could not do before?

Who the hell is talking of a new empire?!? Merely sovereignty, and what industry? Literally any, from anywhere in the world, no longer limited to that which the EU has allowed.

 

[C4Cat]

Because goods from other countries are cheaper than goods from the EU, duh, chicken from Brazil / USA for example, the Brits may now have it if they wish, previously they could not.

 

[buka001]

ANY job that is made possible only through trade with a business or country that previously was impossible e.g. a USA based company that opens a UK branch now that it has favourable (hypothetically) conditions to mainland Europe.


Because goods from other countries are cheaper than goods from the EU, duh, chicken from Brazil / USA for example, the Brits may now have it if they wish, previously they could not.


Who the hell is talking of a new empire?!? Merely sovereignty, and what industry? Literally any, from anywhere in the world, no longer limited to that which the EU has allowed.

Literally in this forum and all over social media tgere has been talk of the resurgebt British Empire. What industry had the EU forbade the UK from participating in?

Many US companies operate in the UK already, so how did the EU prevent this?

Brazil, Paraguay, Argentina and Uruguay are in the final stages of completing a trade agreement with the EU. The EU is their largest trading partner, with the EU investing 380 Billion Euros in those countries.

What type of leverage and trade balance will the UK have that will allow the UK to get goods cheaper than the EU does?

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

What industry had the EU forbade the UK from participating in?

Any company / country / industry that did not want to accept EU terms and / or have the resources to waste on negotiating with the entire EU bloc was effectively prohibited from doing business with the UK and vice versa.

If the UK wants to import champagne or port that was made outside of France or Portugal they could not, because negotiating with the EU bloc means every member gets a say, and guess what, France and Portugal made those two issues non-negotiable.

That is just a couple of examples, a bureaucracy the size of the EU undoubtedly has hundreds of those petty exceptions, yet you would like to pretend it does not affect who bloc members do business with?!?

The UK was the 2nd biggest economy in the EU, their trade balance will be just fine for negotiations, jesus even South Africa imports some items from the likes of Brazil and USA cheaper than any EU country can get it at. Do you believe the sheer size of our glorious rainbow nation economy is what made that happen?

 

[Jings]

Pound is already doing a sterling job since Brexit.

 

[Grant]

I'm disappointed the farage and verhofstadt show is over

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

I'm disappointed the farage and verhofstadt show is over

Haha. Yup, I will miss Farage's epic speeches. Remember when he described one long forgotten EU clown as a low grade bank clerk and who had the charisma of a damp rag?

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1223919954526920704

Remainers can't exactly be described as people with high levels of self-awareness. Just look at how the 2019 election turned out for Remainer parties. Part of the large majority for Boris was due to the shameless parliamentary shenanigans of the Remainer MPs over the past 3 years.

 

[Hamish McPanji]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1223919954526920704

Remainers can't exactly be described as people with high levels of self-awareness. Just look at how the 2019 election turned out for Remainer parties. Part of the large majority for Boris was due to the shameless parliamentary shenanigans of the Remainer MPs over the past 3 years.

Which study was this exactly? And what were the definable characteristics of knowledge of the EU that were measured?