The Brexit Thread

[Dave]

Spizz is a true Scott (Respect Spizz), as for you, Dave not sure.

Scott is a name, a person from Scotland is a Scot...

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

 

[C4Cat]

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We all know that nothing has actually changed yet, duh. There is a transition period of a year where nothing changes while negotiations are ongoing. It will only be this time next year that we begin to feel the consequences of Brexit

 

[access]

We all know that nothing has actually changed yet, duh. There is a transition period of a year where nothing changes while negotiations are ongoing. It will only be this time next year that we begin to feel the consequences of Brexit

such a disconnect.

the fact that the main port had to announce that there has not been a change means "you all" did not know nothing has changed.

doom and gloom bandwagon brigade.

what do you think will the consequences of brexit feel like at an airport next year? will they be treated differently to other people using their passports/visas ? what exactly is it

 

[C4Cat]

I see the UK - US relationship is off to a good start

Boris Johnson delays plans for US visit after angry phone call with Trump

PM had been expected to travel to Washington in the spring

www.independent.co.uk

Boris Johnson 'CANCELS trip to see Trump' amid transatlantic tensions

The Prime Minister is said to have originally planned to visit Washington last month before moving the trip to February. But now the plans have been shelved and they will now meet in June.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I see the UK - Australia relationship is off to a good start

Senior Australian MPs have cancelled a planned trip to the UK as tensions heighten over the role of Huawei in building Britain's 5G network.

Lawmakers from the intelligence and security committee had been expected to travel to the UK next month.

But the trip has been postponed amid reports of a diplomatic rift

Australian MPs cancel UK trip amid Huawei leak row - BBC News

A diplomatic row has erupted over the leak of talks about the role of Huawei in the UK's 5G network.

www.bbc.com

 

[The Voice]

I see the UK - Australia relationship is off to a good start

Australian MPs cancel UK trip amid Huawei leak row - BBC News

A diplomatic row has erupted over the leak of talks about the role of Huawei in the UK's 5G network.

www.bbc.com

Not sure I see what the fuss is all about. There's a boatload of Huawei networking equipment already all over the UK.

And I bet it's the same in the US and Aus. Just because it's not a mobile phone or a cell tower doesn't mean it's not there.

 

[C4Cat]

Not sure I see what the fuss is all about. There's a boatload of Huawei networking equipment already all over the UK.

That's what all the fuss is about

 

[Dave]

That's what all the fuss is about

Though (uniquely) GCHQ has oversight over all Huawei equipment in the UK.

Here's how GCHQ scours Huawei hardware for malicious code

After reports emerged that Huawei infrastructure was behaving unusually in 2010, GCHQ took the unprecedented step of setting up a factory to check every Huawei device destined for use in the UK

www.wired.co.uk

 

[The Voice]

That's what all the fuss is about

It's kind of dof, though. Even France is allowing Huawei to bid to set up their equipment. Of course, it excludes anywhere around nuclear plants and military bases - let's not beat around the bush here: 5G IS military grade signal that can be used to devastating effect.

I don't see the US or Aus cutting ties with France (ergo, the EU) because of that, so it all just sounds like a bunch of hot air. I mean, what do they expect the UK to do, anyway? Force all the ISPs to go around ripping out all the fibre optics networks running on Huawei? Inspect every data centre?

 

[buka001]

This was obvious, considering 50% of imports and 50% of exports were with the EU, that new trade deals will not structurally change the way the UK has done business for 40 years.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1228794986071805953

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Still don't think the EU has a strong grasp of what Brexit is about...what's so hard about understanding the slogan 'take back control' ?

Boris Johnson rejects EU's post-Brexit trade deal after Brussels insists on retaining control over UK's tax rules

Boris Johnson has rejected out of hand the EU's demands for a post-Brexit trade deal after Brussels negotiators insisted they should retain control over British tax rules and state subsidies.

David Frost, the Prime Minister's chief Brexit negotiator, is this weekend finalising the UK's demands for the deal, which must be secured by the end of this year to avoid a No Deal Brexit.

Tory sources say Mr Frost and his team have been infuriated by the EU's demands in their draft mandate.

Mr Frost plans to use a lecture to students and academics in Brussels tomorrow to say that the demands far outstrip terms the EU has struck with countries such as Canada, Japan and Korea.

A source said: 'We are not asking for a special, bespoke or unique deal – just the same requirements that the EU has agreed with other like-minded countries.

But as things stand, the EU will seek to police UK subsidies, impose rules on the UK's tax regime and ask the UK to commit to aligning with the EU's standards for ever.

'On subsidies, the EU are asking that we adhere to the EU's rules for ever, and that they have jurisdiction over how these rules are enforced in the UK.

On tax, the EU want us to agree to comply with their tax standards and participate in their cross-border tax planning arrangements. This is ridiculous.

'Such commitments are outside the scope of normal negotiations and so we will be pushing back to protect UK industries.

'Asking for alignment on standards doesn't make sense when the EU's standards fall below the UK's in many areas of workers' rights, environmental protections and health and safety.'

 

[ToxicBunny]

I think the EU understand perfectly...

The UK on the other hand is starting to realise how poor their negotiating position is.

 

[C4Cat]

Still don't think the EU has a strong grasp of what Brexit is about...what's so hard about understanding the slogan 'take back control' ?

Boris Johnson rejects EU's post-Brexit trade deal after Brussels insists on retaining control over UK's tax rules

... cross-border tax planning arrangements.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Portugal airports to introduce separate passport lanes for Britons after Brexit

British holidaymakers are important to Portugal as they are the biggest group of tourists to the country. However, numbers have dipped recently as the pound has fallen against the euro amid concerns over Brexit.

Portuguese Economy Minister Pedro Siza Vieira also sought to ease Britons’ worries this week, saying they wouldn’t need a visa even in the event of a no-deal Brexit.

He also said British citizens living in Portugal would retain all their rights after the UK leaves the EU, including access to healthcare.

“We are ready to do this unilaterally,” he told Reuters, adding that he hoped the UK would do the same for Portuguese people.

Always thought it was a bit of a fantasy among doom-mongering Remoaners that Brits would need a visa to visit the EU, especially for countries like Portugal which heavily rely on British tourists for their tourism revenue. Up the Portuguese

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

... cross-border tax planning arrangements.

Sounds like bureaucratic legalese for tax harmonisation. That will just not do -- the UK wants to attract new business and one the tools it has at its disposal is changing tax rates. Yes, the UK will be competing with the EU now for business which the EU don't particularly want, hence the desperation on part the EU side for alignment on a host of standards/rules thereby undercutting the UK.

 

[ToxicBunny]

What business will the Brits be competing for against the EU specifically that you can think of?

 

[Unhappy438]

hence the desperation on part the EU side

 

[C4Cat]

Portugal airports to introduce separate passport lanes for Britons after Brexit



Always thought it was a bit of a fantasy among doom-mongering Remoaners that Brits would need a visa to visit the EU, especially for countries like Portugal which heavily rely on British tourists for their tourism revenue. Up the Portuguese

He also said British citizens living in Portugal would retain all their rights after the UK leaves the EU, including access to healthcare...
... adding that he hoped the UK would do the same for Portuguese people.

So do you think the UK will do the same for Portuguese people?

 

[C4Cat]

Sounds like bureaucratic legalese for tax harmonisation. That will just not do -- the UK wants to attract new business and one the tools it has at its disposal is changing tax rates. Yes, the UK will be competing with the EU now for business which the EU don't particularly want, hence the desperation on part the EU side for alignment on a host of standards/rules thereby undercutting the UK.

I'd be surprised if they make the UK a special case. This has most likely to do with the EU directive known as DAC 6 which becomes fully applicable on 1 July 2020, and applies to all countries doing business with the EU or any member countries.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

If you shout "take back control" enough times all the details and specific issues just fade into mist...