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Fulcrum29
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I am getting annoyed with The Division 2 at the moment. The problem is the issues, and there are many and reported all over their Technical Support sub, but they don’t list many new critical issues as known. I mean the Castle bug was reported in early release already, they patched it, but the patch didn’t resolve the issue. I am at the point where you ask Ubi directly about an issue, an issue numerously reported, and they simply reply by asking you to submit video evidence. They last updated the known issues list on the 20th.
I have +60hrs invested in this game. The main story isn’t great and the game is designed around the end game. Yet, I am seeing incredibly high scoring reviews without mentioning any bugs. It seems only the staircase bug at Ivy Tunnel is worth the mention. That bug has been there since the beginning and now it is a humorous matter twee weeks later…
Besides my already mentioned mission-based issues, these issues are now getting to me,
- WT3/4 Control Points don’t drop blueprints (useless to grind)
- I cannot upgrade my workbench past WT2 (talking about competitive advantages)
- Hunters don’t drop (useless to grind)
- Cassie Mendoza only spaws at Castle Settlement (which I am unable to access)
- Builds are broken (yes, some mods aren’t applying)
- Recalibration is broken (waste)
- Some skills are broken
- Locked behind doors in missions (also, supposedly, resolved)
- Unable to enter open doors, anywhere (random, but it happens and can be very annoying pending what you are trying to achieve)
- Faction loot box unlocks don’t drop (useless to grind, and you need to wait 24hrs to try again)
- There is something badly wrong with normalisation, some players are clearly stronger in some PvP normalisation modes. They one-shot you, and I believe this is what I also initially experienced. Yes, and there are times I am also godlike.
- The player level scaling, also apparently resolved, is still in a very bad place.
All I can grind at the moment is specialisation skill points which I have nearly completed. I have three very annoying mission bugs which bother me every time I enter the game, couple that to the abovementioned issues and this game is turning schit real quick.
Anthem had a drop rate issue and limited end game, and people COMPLAINED everywhere they possibly could. The Division 2 is broken, no wonder WT5 isn’t ready, but it is the greatest thing ever made.
Players with WT4 workbenches, all the blueprints, all the exotic blueprints have a competitive advantage. Just saying.
I am not going to say anything anymore, I am over The Division 2, doing bounties over and over again is now incredibly tedious like playing Anthem. The devs aren’t answering. Yes, it is still early, but acknowledge the damn issues, as this guy said,
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.p...why-(bug-)?p=14077463&viewfull=1#post14077463
As the reviewers have it, it is an awesome game, great story, great end game, and only have broken stairs. I don’t believe reviewers played more than 34-40hrs.
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I have +60hrs invested in this game. The main story isn’t great and the game is designed around the end game. Yet, I am seeing incredibly high scoring reviews without mentioning any bugs. It seems only the staircase bug at Ivy Tunnel is worth the mention. That bug has been there since the beginning and now it is a humorous matter twee weeks later…
Besides my already mentioned mission-based issues, these issues are now getting to me,
- WT3/4 Control Points don’t drop blueprints (useless to grind)
- I cannot upgrade my workbench past WT2 (talking about competitive advantages)
- Hunters don’t drop (useless to grind)
- Cassie Mendoza only spaws at Castle Settlement (which I am unable to access)
- Builds are broken (yes, some mods aren’t applying)
- Recalibration is broken (waste)
- Some skills are broken
- Locked behind doors in missions (also, supposedly, resolved)
- Unable to enter open doors, anywhere (random, but it happens and can be very annoying pending what you are trying to achieve)
- Faction loot box unlocks don’t drop (useless to grind, and you need to wait 24hrs to try again)
- There is something badly wrong with normalisation, some players are clearly stronger in some PvP normalisation modes. They one-shot you, and I believe this is what I also initially experienced. Yes, and there are times I am also godlike.
- The player level scaling, also apparently resolved, is still in a very bad place.
All I can grind at the moment is specialisation skill points which I have nearly completed. I have three very annoying mission bugs which bother me every time I enter the game, couple that to the abovementioned issues and this game is turning schit real quick.
Anthem had a drop rate issue and limited end game, and people COMPLAINED everywhere they possibly could. The Division 2 is broken, no wonder WT5 isn’t ready, but it is the greatest thing ever made.
Players with WT4 workbenches, all the blueprints, all the exotic blueprints have a competitive advantage. Just saying.
I am not going to say anything anymore, I am over The Division 2, doing bounties over and over again is now incredibly tedious like playing Anthem. The devs aren’t answering. Yes, it is still early, but acknowledge the damn issues, as this guy said,
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.p...why-(bug-)?p=14077463&viewfull=1#post14077463
As the reviewers have it, it is an awesome game, great story, great end game, and only have broken stairs. I don’t believe reviewers played more than 34-40hrs.
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Mike Hoxbig
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If you've played TD1, you will have noticed that Ubi don't typically rush patches. They normally wait on more feedback and then release a patch with more extensive fixes/balances.
People have moaned and moaned in TD1 until they were blue in the face. And the patch only comes 3-4 months later, after undergoing a PTS etc.
I wouldn't expect much over the next month or so. Just hang in there...
Henry.de.kock
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Good beye.
Fulcrum29
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As it currently stands, I can only play to max out my specialisations. My Demolition and Sniper still needs to be maxed out.
I can’t grind:
- Ivory keys
- Blueprints
- Exotics (not all exotics, but I cannot get Scatterbox due to the broken Hyena loot box drop, and Scatterbox is pretty much PvP meta at the moment)
I am not too concerned about the broken skills and builds, mainly due to the WT5 lock. Most players are now grinding out 450+ score builds, most higher builds averaging out at 460. However, once WT5 unlocks, then they will need to grind out 500 score builds and all lower scored items will be more or less irrelevant. Since some mods are broken, the scores don’t really matter that much at the moment. My problem with this though is that players who are able to grind the blueprints and are able to upgrade their workbench will be able to make those 500 score items when WT5 is unlocked.
These issues don’t apply across the board. Ubi initially warned lower level players playing with higher level or more progressed players due to it being able to break your game, well, breaking the Castle settlement, but I believe more things are breaking. Many who are complaining about the workbench, happened to play with higher WT players upgrading their workbenches while in the group.
The game is in a strange state. Scaling is really an issue which I understand may take time to resolve, but they need to solve the progression issues as a priority. They need to look at the normalisation in PvP.
I would also like to be able to access the Castle Settlement, I would also like to do the Worksite Community side-mission and will also like to be able to complete the Contamination Zone in the Southwest. Ironically, I was able to do the Contamination Zone, earned the backpack cosmetic, but the mission is incomplete and every time I am in the surrounding I get the mission prompt.
Weirdly enough, some issues only apply to some players, maybe it has something to do with other players in your session breaking some elements in your game.
I don’t want to be WT5, unable to grind. As a Year 1 Pass owner, I paid extra to be a beta tester and all I will get in return is backpack cosmetics. Also, one guy asked on Ubi whether the players with 7-day early access will be able to retain their loot they gained in those days and that question went ignored causing a disturbance in the community. Players are now being very annoyed and unsure with Ubi’s vagueness in regard to the Year 1 Pass (which is bloody expensive). Year 1 Beta Tester Pass @ $40 that is what it is.
I played enough now to be out, with a lot more things to do that I am unable to do. I am not complaining about the AI rushes, many are complaining about the WT4 and heroic level tank rushes, but it is okay in a team who communicates and have the right equipped skillsets. I mean many WT4 players still carry revive when it is pretty much the most useless skill to sustain you as a single player at this level.
It is all good to say to hang in there, but some players are having progression where others aren't.
Fulcrum29
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FTFY.
Henry.de.kock
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Hmmm.
You go on a rant thinking that fixing that issues is as simple as putting in a line of text in the code, but you fail to realise that it is not. All of those so called bugs is only affecting a select few people and not the whole player base. None of those bugs affect me personally. So if only a couple of hundred players seem to be affected by the bugs they have to try and re-create the bugs to try and find out how to fix it. And since nearly no setup that is used to play the game is the exact same as the other, they must try and find a common link between the setups as well, so can you begin to try and comprehend the huge task they are currently busy with? Do you blame them for haveing all hands on deck to try and resolve this issues? It seems to me like you would rather have some sympathetic words on a forum from the devs rather then them trying to fix the game so that you can play...
No one has an advantage over you, The exotics are not that good at all, and chatterbox (scatterbox according to you) for me is not really even worth trying to farm. Why cant you upgrade your crafting bench? Since doing each stronghold gives you the blueprint to upgrade your workbench automatically, you just need the materials to upgrade it. I can understand if you want to craft mods, but the rest is weak since it only can go up to 440, and everything else drops at 450+ so I dont even look at crafting since it would be a waste of time.
Again I am not saying the game is perfect, and I acknowledge that there is allot of issues, but what you are trying to achieve is plain stupid. You wont get anywhere by quitting the game and ranting trying to compare it to Anthem which was and still is much worse then TD2. Give the devs time to try and find the problem and some sort of common link between the systems that has those problems, since literally anything can break a game. People have vastly different software and hardware and versions of said software also differ, so have some patience and give them some time to get you the answers you are looking for.
But alas I dont know why I even respond to you since you are clearly done with the game and just needed to tell us. So yea FTFY.
medicnick83
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Joh, I wish he endured what I went through with Division 1 (from day 1) then he could really moan.
The game as it is now - I see issues and I know they will fix it, but after what... 2 weeks?
Bru, go look at Anthem, BFV or any major release lately and you'll see a MESS - this game is not NEAR that, of cause it has bugs and UBI will fix it, just give it time.
If you wanna leave, so be it, it your loss.
You will eventually come back because the game is fun!
I even enjoy the PVP aspect - cause it sucks to get killed by 4, but let 1 or 2 take me on and i'll probably end up dropping 1 at least.
Long story short... Patience man.
The game as it is now - I see issues and I know they will fix it, but after what... 2 weeks?
Bru, go look at Anthem, BFV or any major release lately and you'll see a MESS - this game is not NEAR that, of cause it has bugs and UBI will fix it, just give it time.
If you wanna leave, so be it, it your loss.
You will eventually come back because the game is fun!
I even enjoy the PVP aspect - cause it sucks to get killed by 4, but let 1 or 2 take me on and i'll probably end up dropping 1 at least.
Long story short... Patience man.
Fulcrum29
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You are ignorant as I have said that the developers must acknowledge the issues. To give assurance and certainty, but they aren't replying to threads, grouping the topics and updating their known issues list,
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/2010054-The-Division-2-Known-Issues-Updated-March-20th
and yes, they do state,
however, progression bugs must be made known by the developers. Progression is why most people play the game.
Tell these players that they are experiencing 'so-called' bugs,
PC -> https://forums.ubi.com/forumdisplay.php/2034-PC
Xbox One -> https://forums.ubi.com/forumdisplay.php/2035-Xbox-One
PS 4 -> https://forums.ubi.com/forumdisplay.php/2036-Playstation-4
and your positive experiences doesn't make other players negative experiences in the slightest any positive.
Again, acknowledge the issues, I didn't know the known issues list is some sympathetic worded list. This game is a service, right? Strange, Bethesda and BioWare acknowledged their live service issues within good time and that is known as good customer service even though they are slacking behind.
Again, maybe read Ubi's technical support threads and also their general discussion threads, to be educated, BEFORE you reply. Even the Angry Joe review highlighted the unbalanced PvP issue, and numerous threads are in regard to scaling and normalisation issues. I guess it is okay because only some players are experiencing this. PvP is BROKEN in its current state.
In regard to Scatterbox, here is a little thread about it,
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/2023524-PVP-Vector-and-Chatterbox-the-New-Meta
but I guess in your opinion it isn't worth it. Every Scatterbox build is sprinting and killing. Yes, I would like my workbench to be upgradable past WT2 once I am WT5. You see the issue here, will the workbench issue be acknowledged and then resolved by the time WT5 is unlocked? You tell me that no one has an advantage over me, no. Please don't, I am posting actual links to sources (and complaints).
I have likely more hours than you, more progressive than you. To tell me that acknowledging these issues are stupid is stupid. I have a right to criticise the product, but I guess that is stupid too.
Yes, I highlighted game-breaking issues. Glad that you aren't experiencing those issues, must be heaven in DC. The next time someone corrects your spelling mistake, acknowledge it and take the appreciation in that.
There are many Ubi threads and Reddit threads opposing your opinion. I apologise that I summarised it to some extent as to what I am also experiencing. Let's rant about Anthem, let's rant about Fallout 76, but please don't rant about The Division 2.
Fulcrum29
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Bru, I own The Division 1, I played The Division 1, I own Anthem, I played Anthem. Again, some people have serious comprehension issues when I said that Ubi must acknowledge the issues, and then they go on a lecturing spree. Ubi TD Fanboyism, sad really.
You also don't get that I said that the only grind I can do is bounty hunting. I can at this stage only max out my specialisations. I cannot do other progressions because it is bugged in my game. All the time, no reward, and no, experience (XP) doesn't really count at this stage unless you want to achieve a loot drop. This is very Anthem like, isn't it?
Again, there are 1 shot bugs in PvP, glad that you aren't experiencing those, but they are there and they are existing in normalisation. Scatterbox builds are insane to go up against and 1 shot killers are a mess in PvP.
Henry.de.kock
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God I am done with you since reading is propably not one of your strong points...
I never once said the bugs arent real, I did point it out that not everyone are having those issues, but it apparently slipped past you as you are looking to post in anger. Speaking of anger... Angry Joe really.... every one has an opinion and mine of him is he is just a idiot. Ubi has acknowledged the list as you seem to think only Bethesda and Bioware did so, you are the ignorant one.
I am fully aware of the problems with the Chatterbox and painfully aware that it has some impact on some people trying to have fun in PvP but no matter what the devs do there will ALWAYS be a situation where something is stronger then the rest, people will go out of their way to find something they can roflstomp others in a game just to feel good, it has been and always will be how some people are. So you want the Chatterbox so you can spawncamp and obliterate others in PvP since they are doing it to you..... Wow you are a lost soul man. Just because it can be done doesnt mean it has to be done, I can build my 1 shot sniper build but why would I grief other player, I dont get enjoyment out of it, but apparently you will.
So what if you have more hours in the game then I do.... does that prove something? All I can say to that is if you played that long hours you must have gotten some enjoyment out of it or you are just a sucker for punishment.
What have you done on your side to try and assist the devs? Did you try to replicate the issues with a new character? Try doing things differently then you did when you first leveled a character, maybe dont join any groups at all till max level, change something small in your approach to max level and if it doesnt happen again you can give the devs insight into what you experienced. " Hey devs I leveled a second character and didnt join any groups this time, the castle settlement is available to me this time, maybe the grouping have something to do with the problem, try looking there."
No it is much easier to complain then to give feedback to the devs. You are just a spoiled little child that wants everything handed to them on a silver platter, you want to replicate things that makes you angry and do it to others to make them suffer. It is clear now that you want a fix and you want it yesterday without contributing to try and find a solution. I am not defending the game blindly, but for every person that are experiencing a bug, there is a person that doesnt experience that bug, so again it is not a simple fix. Go read that many threads you talk about so bluntly and see that it is not everyone that has that problem, plus people tend to go to those threads when they experience a bug to try and find a solution so the amount of people with the bug will seem allot more then those without it.
Now I do get that you paid for the game and want a working game, but the world is not perfect, and I honestly dont think any one expected the game not to have any bugs, I dont expect any game ever not to have bugs, but when I buy a game for enjoyment I will make damn sure I give the relevant feedback to the devs so that they can correct the things that makes my gaming experience not as wonderful as I want it to be, not just cry about it on the forums and wait for splitsecond replies from devs, and when that replies dont come I just write off the game as a steaming pile of garbage.
TLDR: Dont follow the meta, play your own game, dont be a spoiled brat, try and replicate your bug and actually give feedback dont just cry.
/rant.
Fulcrum29
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Uhm...
Yes, you did,
to quote,
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/so-called
not to mention that I linked you to the thread where these 'FEW' are commenting. You tell me that reading isn't my strong point
You are the one replying in anger, boet.
Factually pointed out 'opinion' in video? No, Angry Joe isn't the idiot, you are the idiot, because Angry Joe pointed out the issue in his review, clearly illustrated. No, again, where did Ubi acknowledge the issues? I even linked to the list.
I remember you stating,
Who said that I want to spawncamp? Yes, I would like to obliterate others in PvP, don't you? Lost soul, I am not the one making schit up. Apparently, what will I do, are you mad Henry, are you okay? You don't know me, get that right at least.
Yes, I want the Scatterbox, like many others players do. I mean it is the game, I may surely use it, right?
Isn't that why I posted about it, because I don't want to be punished by the game breaking bugs?
You do know, to replicate the issues with a new character will be another 40-60hrs on a clean slate? Is that the recommendation that Ubi will also be suggesting, that everyone experiencing issues must start anew? That is insane and downright silly. No, I contribute in their technical support sub, as I have already stated in this thread.
Complain, maybe you need to understand the criticism. No, I asked to have the issues acknowledged. Again, you don't know me and I surely don't want to get to know you. Yes, I read the threads (again, as already mentioned), even summarised the issues in this thread, so why are you replying again? Because you are counter arguing your own points.
No need to attack my character, but I guess that is your character. I don't like your kind.
How many times do I have to state that I contribute in their Techincal Support sub??? Then you attack my reading abilities, ag shame. As in Ubi's one social post,
Uhm, yeah, I don't think you understand why meta's exist and how they came to be. Spoiled brat, dude, soos water op 'n eend se rug.
Henry.de.kock
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Wanted to post the "State of the game" for yesterday, but I am afraid that the information might be false since clearly the devs of this game doesnt listen, care or respond to bugs . But feel free to go and look it up, there is some nice fixes (well cant fix things if they dont respond to threads) on the way, new gear sets and the new stronghold (or should I say, the one they keep reminding you about every time you fart), and WT5.
Unfortunately there will be no pvp fixes, but they do intend to do a balance pass on the gear and weapons. This all comes on April 5, while there were some bugs that got fixed with yesterdays maintenance.
. But feel free to go and look it up, there is some nice fixes (well cant fix things if they dont respond to threads) on the way, new gear sets and the new stronghold (or should I say, the one they keep reminding you about every time you fart), and WT5. Unfortunately there will be no pvp fixes, but they do intend to do a balance pass on the gear and weapons. This all comes on April 5, while there were some bugs that got fixed with yesterdays maintenance.
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Hey guys, if anyone is interested in joining a clan in Division 2 just for some random missions and stuff, you are welcome to join CraK ZA, We started it to see if we can find some guys to play the endgame content with, we have a Discord as well, the link will be provided when you request to join, or you can message me here and Ill send it to you.
Hopefully the endgame is actually as hard as they say it will be, the fist part of the game was a bit too easy to be worth anything
Hopefully the endgame is actually as hard as they say it will be, the fist part of the game was a bit too easy to be worth anything
Fulcrum29
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Wanted to post the "State of the game" for yesterday, but I am afraid that the information might be false since clearly the devs of this game doesnt listen, care or respond to bugs
You are welcome to post the TSoG videos. I believe many playing the game will appreciate the videos.
The big patch came out today, are you WT5 ready?
Fulcrum29
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The game is harder at challenging mode, but the heroic mode is also out today. The main game is a tutorial
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The game is harder at challenging mode, but the heroic mode is also out today. The main game is a tutorial
Challenging mode is a joke of note, so I hope they ramp up the difficulty significantly when T5 drops, looking forward to seeing what Heroic has to offer
Been playing this a lot, loving it. Have numerous very annoying bugs, but not enough to put me off playing.
Created a clan, "Saffers" so if anyone wants a clan, join up. We are currently 3 members so need a 4th. This is for PC BTW.
Created a clan, "Saffers" so if anyone wants a clan, join up. We are currently 3 members so need a 4th. This is for PC BTW.
Fulcrum29
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It is best not to talk about the bugs. They did state in a previous SoTG video that they will try to resolve as much as possible with today’s patch, but that weapon balancing is a priority.
Do note, they only addressed the weapon balancing in PvE, but did address the ‘M700’ in PvP. They said they were going to do this, but it is best to wait on the patch notes, but the patch notes to date haven’t included ‘every’ change they made to the game.
There are notable bugs, more endgame to do things, like Ghost which is also to be addressed in today’s patch. You will note, every time the servers go into maintenance some things change, and they wait on the community to see how it is being received, but they don’t tell you what changed. Anyway, it is best to not talk about ‘bugs’ anymore.
To add one last thing on bugs, the devs did state that those with broken side missions, those who cannot resolve it by replaying it with ‘new’ players, they are also going to make the side missions replayable at one time or the other which will essentially reboot the side mission.
Currently, I am maxed. I have done most, still some outstanding collectables to go and pick up, but the only specialisation I still need to complete is the Sharpshooter, currently at 83/160. I have the exotics, I have 11/12 hunter masks and I have the 7/8 Ivory keys (only open the loot box at score 500!!!).
Today is big news, I am going WT5, YAH!!!
The next big update will introduce a new specialisation and also give the Year 1 Pass players access to their 1st exclusive backpack cosmetic mission (there is 8 in total).
Fulcrum29
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Yes, I agree, but it also largely depends on your squad’s loadout. Today, according to the devs, they nerfed the PvE meta weapons instead of buffing the other weapons.
They stated to remove any and all negative attributes for gear. I don’t believe they can change your current loot, but new loot will be affected.
All in all, with some of the weapons nerfed, the challenging mode should be more challenging.
I see one of the introduced gear sets are all out skill based, so I guess they put in work as yellow is basically useless for most skills (which is also broken in most cases). Those who know the state of the game is stacking reds.