Sonic2k
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That guy on the motorbike works in Bryanston.. photographed him in Sloane street last week.
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The Gauteng E-tolling Thread
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That guy on the motorbike works in Bryanston.. photographed him in Sloane street last week.
blunomore
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As if your party does not respect the rule of law only when it suits them. Oh, the irony ....
Could not agree more. When it suits them the law applies.
member2204
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Still waiting for some tapes to be released
Or for the old names to be put back up in the Pretoria streets.
Or for the 14 days notice before e-tolling starts.
MagicDude4Eva
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Got this update from one of the Waze community guys
For all the Wazers, could you please post any e-toll issues into the Waze forum - https://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=131&t=33343
Kuhlkatz said:
For all the Wazers, could you please post any e-toll issues into the Waze forum - https://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=131&t=33343
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I just had an interesting thought:
If I were to drive a car registered in the name of a family member (say for example my uncle) and not pay my E-toll bill - he will get prosecuted and end up with the criminal record, right?
What would happen if I donate or sell my car to a family trust? Surely the trust cant end up with a criminal record?
If I were to drive a car registered in the name of a family member (say for example my uncle) and not pay my E-toll bill - he will get prosecuted and end up with the criminal record, right?
What would happen if I donate or sell my car to a family trust? Surely the trust cant end up with a criminal record?
You as the trustee will be taken to task and there will most probably be other related charges due to your fiduciary duty towards the trust and beneficiaries of said trust.
Will test it out on the weekend. Won't be much testing, maybe Monte and back from the West Rand. Let's see how it goes.
LazyLion
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From another forum...
Yes, because R450 a month means nothing to me, right? Is there anything at all we can do if we dont live in Jhb? I've attended a few protest rides previously, but what else can we do if we're not actually there?
I did see someone posted DJ's doc though, hopefully it helps
Yes, because R450 a month means nothing to me, right? Is there anything at all we can do if we dont live in Jhb? I've attended a few protest rides previously, but what else can we do if we're not actually there?I did see someone posted DJ's doc though, hopefully it helps
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I love how the gantry names are just about the ONLY things not to be named after the "glorious" struuuuuuugle heroes. Instead, they're given bird names, in Afrikaans, and branded in orange, white and blue.
Fsck you, Sanral and fsck you, ANC. Fsck the lot of you.
Fsck you, Sanral and fsck you, ANC. Fsck the lot of you.
The more interesting thing will come in with vehicle sales and if you buy a second hand vehicle that you inherit the debt of the previous owner.
True that.
The_Unbeliever
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**** the old struggle
the new struggle started today.
the new struggle started today.
MagicDude4Eva
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Well, you can always drive around with a temp license ;-)
kissingmybbgoodbye
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Maybe they want to do some more Big Brother on us, that's why they would love us to have an e-tag
http://hackaday.com/2013/09/16/modified-e-zpass-detects-reads-far-from-toll-booths/
http://hackaday.com/2013/09/16/modified-e-zpass-detects-reads-far-from-toll-booths/
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Traffic map shows back roads (Yellow and Red) to be far busier than highways (Green)....
LazyLion
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E-toll fight to continue: Cosatu
Cosatu has vowed to continue its fight against the user-pays principle on Gauteng freeways until the government listens to the people.
"December 3 will represent the day on which our government has refused to listen to the views of the people and the poor," Congress of SA Trade Unions (Cosatu) Gauteng secretary Dumisani Dakile said on Tuesday.
The government had demonstrated its stubbornness and unwillingness to co-operate with the workers, he told reporters in Johannesburg.
"It represents a clear demonstration of cadres who have been power-drunk and believe that they could do as they so wish."
E-tolling on Gauteng's highways came into effect on Tuesday.
Dakile said the African National Congress would regret implementing the system when it came to the 2014 general elections as many in the province would not go to the polls.
He called on President Jacob Zuma to stop the system.
"We believe it is not too late for comrade Jacob Zuma to consider scrapping this system. We are making a humble plea to the ANC to listen to us before it is too late," Dakile said.
He said e-tolls might have put a strain on the relationship between Cosatu and the ANC, and that Cosatu would evaluate its support of the party at its 2015 congress.
"Going to congress in 2015, we will need to ask if it's worth it for Cosatu to continue to support the ANC. What will be the response of our members? I can't predict," he said.
He called on motorists to join in protests and civil disobedience. The success of the system depended on the co-operation and support of the public and motorists, Dakile said.
He called on those who had registered to de-register.
"It is on this basis that, as the federation, we are developing a de-registration form."
Cosatu would occupy freeways, go on hunger strikes, hold sit-ins, lunch hour demonstrations and stay-aways, and would embark on civil disobedience.
He called on the country's lawyers to be part of the protest and to represent, free of charge, motorists who were prosecuted.
The National Taxi Alliance (NTA) has thrown its weight behind Cosatu, despite motorists' outrage that taxis are exempt from paying tolls.
NTA spokesman Theo Malele said that although the government had promised that taxis would not pay, 80 percent of the taxis in the province did not have permits.
"About 50 percent of those permits are lying with the permits board. How do we apply for exemption while the playing field is not even? This is an autocratic way of doing things," he said.
He warned that e-tolls would lead to an increase in taxi fares, which would ultimately seriously affect the poor.
Cosatu said its protest action would start in January.
Source : Sapa /kn/hdw/jk/cls
Date : 03 Dec 2013 14:26
Cosatu has vowed to continue its fight against the user-pays principle on Gauteng freeways until the government listens to the people.
"December 3 will represent the day on which our government has refused to listen to the views of the people and the poor," Congress of SA Trade Unions (Cosatu) Gauteng secretary Dumisani Dakile said on Tuesday.
The government had demonstrated its stubbornness and unwillingness to co-operate with the workers, he told reporters in Johannesburg.
"It represents a clear demonstration of cadres who have been power-drunk and believe that they could do as they so wish."
E-tolling on Gauteng's highways came into effect on Tuesday.
Dakile said the African National Congress would regret implementing the system when it came to the 2014 general elections as many in the province would not go to the polls.
He called on President Jacob Zuma to stop the system.
"We believe it is not too late for comrade Jacob Zuma to consider scrapping this system. We are making a humble plea to the ANC to listen to us before it is too late," Dakile said.
He said e-tolls might have put a strain on the relationship between Cosatu and the ANC, and that Cosatu would evaluate its support of the party at its 2015 congress.
"Going to congress in 2015, we will need to ask if it's worth it for Cosatu to continue to support the ANC. What will be the response of our members? I can't predict," he said.
He called on motorists to join in protests and civil disobedience. The success of the system depended on the co-operation and support of the public and motorists, Dakile said.
He called on those who had registered to de-register.
"It is on this basis that, as the federation, we are developing a de-registration form."
Cosatu would occupy freeways, go on hunger strikes, hold sit-ins, lunch hour demonstrations and stay-aways, and would embark on civil disobedience.
He called on the country's lawyers to be part of the protest and to represent, free of charge, motorists who were prosecuted.
The National Taxi Alliance (NTA) has thrown its weight behind Cosatu, despite motorists' outrage that taxis are exempt from paying tolls.
NTA spokesman Theo Malele said that although the government had promised that taxis would not pay, 80 percent of the taxis in the province did not have permits.
"About 50 percent of those permits are lying with the permits board. How do we apply for exemption while the playing field is not even? This is an autocratic way of doing things," he said.
He warned that e-tolls would lead to an increase in taxi fares, which would ultimately seriously affect the poor.
Cosatu said its protest action would start in January.
Source : Sapa /kn/hdw/jk/cls
Date : 03 Dec 2013 14:26
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