The Home Improvements Thread (3)

imo its a bit too high, I wouldn't pay more than R10k installed including cabling.

if it were just a replacement I wouldn't pay more than R8k.
If you think a Contractor is going to drive all they way to collect a gate motor with remotes and the gate toothed rack costing about R8k, then go to this guys place, bring in the power (which I assume is within 1.0m) cast the base plate in concrete, then return when dry, to mount the motor, fit the rack and program the motor and then teach the remotes, for FREE, you must be off your cotton picking mind...

R14k sounds about right
 
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imo its a bit too high, I wouldn't pay more than R10k installed including cabling.

if it were just a replacement I wouldn't pay more than R8k.
Your maths are not adding up..

Even excluding all the other extra bits being supplied, which you seem to think is being added for free, there is more than 4 hours of labour here, assuming R 500 an hour for labour..

The gate kit alone is about R 6.5k if you were to buy it yourself.. now there is R 3.5k left off of your 10k and that's somehow supposed to cover labour and all the extras being supplied..??
 
If you think a Contractor is going to drive all they way to collect a gate motor with remotes and the gate toothed rack costing about R8k, then go to this guys place, bring in the power (which I assume is within 1.0m) cast the base plate in concrete, then return when dry, to mount the motor, fit the rack and program the motor and then teach the remotes, for FREE, you must be off your cotton picking mind...

R14k sounds about right

I have installed gate motors, alarms, cctv and also worked a big supplier for many years, the installer is not paying R8k for it, even retail it isn't 8k, they aren't buying at security city at the mall.

For R10k he is making about R4k minimum in markup after buying stock and consumables.

Even if we want to argue fairness I could bend, but not another 6K+, maybe somewhere in the middle at R12-14k for a fresh install and no more than 10 for a replacement with new racks etc.

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Obviously these are base install options, but leave a lot of room for the extras like anti theft bracket, cabling etc

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Anti theft bracket included. Missing foundation plate and sensors, abt R850 total

What irks me is what is charged for the anti theft bracket. About 56% more expensive than at security king (I’ve not even done a proper search yet!)
 
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Anti theft bracket included. Missing foundation plate and sensors, abt R850 total

What irks me is what is charged for the anti theft bracket. About 56% more expensive than at security king (I’ve not even done a proper search yet!)

R6700 + R850 + the rack R800 = R8350.

I assume the R6700 includes 2 remotes?

And some guys will do it for R10k?

No wonder 100 businesses fail every month....
 
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This is a quote I recently got, it's a replacement, and the contractor was going to replace the existing tooth-rail. I ended up not doing it as my motor decided to suddenly work, despite being checked out by 2 separate contractors..

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Not sure if it counts as home improvements.

Was given a custom made bunk bed, double on bottom single on top. Extremely solid and heavy but pink. So my wife has been sanding and painting the last few weeks. The chap who built it also didn't have any real way of securing it ao added a some bolt brackets.

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Being custom through the top bunk drove us mad. I had to dismantle the wood railings to squeeze it through the passages in my house including taking off two doors.

Finally got it in, re hammered some nails to put the bed rails back, set the bolts and the brackets and all done. Been a three week project for the wife and I to get it ready and finally our boys are asleep in it tonight.

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Also picked up some nice stairs with drawers off FB Market place. Going to add some contact and decorations on it all.
 
I'm finally getting my renovation plans off the ground and want to start getting some initial costing.

I'm interested in getting some high quality uPVC windows installed, does anyone have a reference for a good place in Cape Town that do these?

I can only really find one that doesn't have bad reviews or hardly any online presence at all and that's these guys: https://asap-pvc.co.za/ which have a pretty good rating on Google. I'd obviously like to get quotes from more than one place though.
 
I'm finally getting my renovation plans off the ground and want to start getting some initial costing.

I'm interested in getting some high quality uPVC windows installed, does anyone have a reference for a good place in Cape Town that do these?

I can only really find one that doesn't have bad reviews or hardly any online presence at all and that's these guys: https://asap-pvc.co.za/ which have a pretty good rating on Google. I'd obviously like to get quotes from more than one place though.
There is basically just one place in SA that manufacture the uPVC stuff, they somewhere in Somerset west. I had a few installed, and then when I had my regular contractor over for some more renovations, he also knew about the factory. Serves me right for not just asking them to do everything as I should, because they always do 100% work on all the other types of renovations I had done.

We used Cape PVC Windows. Work is ok, we had a bunch of issues initially. Took them a long time to come back, but eventually they did. The uPVC door, was basically useless, as it couldn't close properly. As in, could close, but you had to walk around and push the last bit in before you can lock from the inside. (You will understand once you have one of these). Anyways, 6 months later they did come back (without nagging from us), and turns out it was a manufacturing fault. They took of the door and came back later the same day and from then onward it just works.

The one window, using a slide and tilt mechanism (very nice when it works), there was a small issue, but if I just knew how these things work I could sort it out myself. Small issue with one pin not locked in at the top. He showed me and well next time if something like this happen, I can diy it. However, it very quickly made me not trust the tilt function as safe against breakins. If thieves know how these work, I think they will find a way in, regardless of what the installer tells me. They did do maintenance for us again and sorted this out too.

Anyways, their work is clean, but sometimes if the main German don't follow up on his guy's works there are sometimes small things forgotten. However when we ask him when checking ourselves, there usually no issue to get it sorted out.
 
There is basically just one place in SA that manufacture the uPVC stuff, they somewhere in Somerset west. I had a few installed, and then when I had my regular contractor over for some more renovations, he also knew about the factory. Serves me right for not just asking them to do everything as I should, because they always do 100% work on all the other types of renovations I had done.

We used Cape PVC Windows. Work is ok, we had a bunch of issues initially. Took them a long time to come back, but eventually they did. The uPVC door, was basically useless, as it couldn't close properly. As in, could close, but you had to walk around and push the last bit in before you can lock from the inside. (You will understand once you have one of these). Anyways, 6 months later they did come back (without nagging from us), and turns out it was a manufacturing fault. They took of the door and came back later the same day and from then onward it just works.

The one window, using a slide and tilt mechanism (very nice when it works), there was a small issue, but if I just knew how these things work I could sort it out myself. Small issue with one pin not locked in at the top. He showed me and well next time if something like this happen, I can diy it. However, it very quickly made me not trust the tilt function as safe against breakins. If thieves know how these work, I think they will find a way in, regardless of what the installer tells me. They did do maintenance for us again and sorted this out too.

Anyways, their work is clean, but sometimes if the main German don't follow up on his guy's works there are sometimes small things forgotten. However when we ask him when checking ourselves, there usually no issue to get it sorted out.
Thanks, I see they don't really have an online presence which is why I didn't really pick them up. Looks like their Facebook was maybe compromised too, or they forgot to log into their personal account when posting since last year May :laugh:

It's good to have some trusted feedback though, will call them regardless to get quotes. Thanks!
 
Are the uPVC options better in this country these days?

I have 3 uPVC windows in my house, and from my experience they're absolutely rubbish and I can't wait till I renovate that portion of the house so I can put aluminium windows in their place.
 
Fack me...

1250ex vat per sqm for vinyl wrapped and profiled cabinet doors..

Anyway...

Pricing out kitchen Reno at the moment..

55 total sqm for floor tiling, labour about 35k on this, but includes a bit of plumbing, electric and wall tiling, demo and rubble removal..

Was quoted 220k for kitchen cabinet and stone tops.. just got the one quote thus far..

Currently working on pricing the wood for the carcasses myself, current estimate is 20-30k and this might include a significant portion of the wood needed for master bedroom cupboards too..

Got a quote for 25k for stone tops.. so doing it myself, I am at 60-70k depending on the hardware we go with, handles, hinges drawer runners etc..

All in 110k including tiling, half of what the quote just for kitchen cabinets and stone tops came to..
 
Are the uPVC options better in this country these days?

I have 3 uPVC windows in my house, and from my experience they're absolutely rubbish and I can't wait till I renovate that portion of the house so I can put aluminium windows in their place.
I think it really depends. The improvement these made for us is huge. Can feel quite a difference between heat/cold entering. But thats double glazing, so there is that. Bigger difference is, how much sound it keeps out.

That said, we had horribly installed aluminium windows. Aluminium is fine, but when installed wrong, its horrible. Gaps along one side of the frame, letting air in and out. Doors and windows notable to easily open/close. Nevermind locking, being a security risk. So we went from this mess, to uPVC and the experience/improvement is huge. Not that we didn't have issues, but now that they are sorted out, we are much happier.

So what is wrong with your uPVC windows? I bet if badly installed like our aluminium windows, its probably similar issues.
 
I think it really depends. The improvement these made for us is huge. Can feel quite a difference between heat/cold entering. But thats double glazing, so there is that. Bigger difference is, how much sound it keeps out.

That said, we had horribly installed aluminium windows. Aluminium is fine, but when installed wrong, its horrible. Gaps along one side of the frame, letting air in and out. Doors and windows notable to easily open/close. Nevermind locking, being a security risk. So we went from this mess, to uPVC and the experience/improvement is huge. Not that we didn't have issues, but now that they are sorted out, we are much happier.

So what is wrong with your uPVC windows? I bet if badly installed like our aluminium windows, its probably similar issues.

The ones in my house, are just piss poor quality and crap to open/close mostly.. also whoever chose the specific windows was an absolute retard (which I suppose makes the experience of them even worse). they're weirdly designed for the shape window opening they're in.
 
The ones in my house, are just piss poor quality and crap to open/close mostly.. also whoever chose the specific windows was an absolute retard (which I suppose makes the experience of them even worse). they're weirdly designed for the shape window opening they're in.
The open/close maybe just need maintenance. Should be fixable unless something interesting is wrong.

Yeah you have to choose carefully what type of window you get for the place it is in.

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Our installer literally walk with us to every window, to write the what we want. Then as we think we choose, he highlighted all the things we need to consider going with each type. Especially the caveats you need to take into consideration. It greatly improved the choices we made.
 
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