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Using the b593 with rain in 2 locations. Working fine for a couple of months now.
Great! Thanks for the feedback.
100m is a limit.
If you are gong this route, here is short guide for bridging Huawei "Gateway Router" (GR) and better router:
1: Disable WLAN and DHCP on the GR
2: Enable DMZ on the GR
3: Setup WAN interface IP address of the router
4: Change LAN interface IP address of the router, it must a different LAN segment than GR
5. Set default gateway on the router and point it to the GR
Example:
GR IP=192.168.1.1 [default] (connect LAN port GR to the WAN port of the router)
Router's WAN port IP=192.168.1.2
Router's LAN interface IP=192.168.2.1
Default Gateway on the router 192.168.1.1
Netmask 255.255.255.0 (everywhere)
@sajunky I have followed your guide above to try and eliminate the double NAT I currently have on my network. I have a B315s linked via lan to the WAN of a Netgear R7800. Previously I just disabled the wifi network on the B315, so all connections and routing is done by the Netgear. This worked fairly well, but I've always been concerned regarding the effects of double NAT.
I confirmed the existence of double NAT, as when I look at my R7800 that runs DD-WRT, it has an ip address of 192.168.8.101 (The B315 and R7800 uses different subnets to assign ip's - B315 ip is 192.168.8.x and the R7800 uses 192.168.1.x)
I then used your guide and put the R7800 ip (192.168.8.101) in the DMZ of the B315. Something didn't make sense to me, as the R7800 shows 192.168.8.101 as it's internet ipv4, but if I want to ping it or access the UI, I need to use the 192.168.1.1 address? Regardless, I used the above to activate the DMZ, and everything worked as normal on the network. Next step was to disable the dhcp on the B315 and effectively force all dhcp functions and routing on to the R7800. Initially it worked, but after resetting both routers the R7800 did not get an ip from the B315, and showed 0.0.0.0 for it's IPv4. No devices connected to the R7800 had internet access. I fixed this by assigning a static IP to the R7800, 192.168.8.101, the same as the address in the B315 DMZ. I thought this would eliminate the double NAT, but it didn't? I still have a private address on the WAN port of the R7800? And when doing a tracert to 8.8.8.8, the first two hops is 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.8.1 - so I effectively still have double NAT. Why did your guide not work? I can't pickup any difference on the network before and after this process to be honest. What am I doing wrong?
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You are not doing wrong. However you must understand, with DMZ is still double NAT, which means Huawei receives ISP address (it could be public IP or from a private space, all depends on your ISP) and if you disable DHCP on Huawei, R7800 WAN interface IP address must be configured manually to match the same subnet of Huawei LAN interface IP. Double NAT is not a concern to me at all, as long some devices do not display "Double NAT error". If they do, there is certainly something wrong in the configuration or bugs in the router show up.
If you keep DHCP server enabled on the Huawei, the all setup of R7800 should be automatic. One thing is not working: DMZ settings on Huawei require a static IP. You have two options:
A. Leave on the Huawei DHCP server enabled and assign Static IP on the R7800. Such address must be in the Huawei LAN subnet range, but outside of Huawei DHCP range. Any address between 192.168.8.2 to 99 is fine. It was working for you initially, so I guess you can use. Just remember the highlighted part. Then continue with step 2 and 3.
(Note: as it is B593 thread, such address is 192.168.1.x for this router - if I remember correctly)
B. Disable DHCP server on the Huawei and then in step 3 you must do more work (fill-up default gateway IP address and DNS servers, as R7800 do not get it from Huawei anymore).
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I dusted off my B593s to use as a secondary router for my new rain account.
When I try to configure it though, I get a message that a call is in progress and router cannot be configured. This even after I reset the router with the reset button.
Any ideas please.
When I try to configure it though, I get a message that a call is in progress and router cannot be configured. This even after I reset the router with the reset button.
Any ideas please.
Not sure if I'm late to comment. I bought a second hand B593 for R700 at Cash Converters just last month and using my Rain SIM card with it. Getting 33 mbps down and 27 mbps up. I don't have a 4K TV anyways, so this serves me well. I'm happy with it and I'm not gonna update the firmware since I read people complaining about connections after the update
Using the B593 on rain as well here and works perfectly, still tha bomb this router
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Howzit guys, don't know a lot about LTE routers but if I can get a Huawei B593s-601 for R300 (second hand obviously), is that a good deal? Or are they very outdated and better to look at newer models?
Thanks
Thanks
Totempole
Executive Member
Howzit guys, don't know a lot about LTE routers but if I can get a Huawei B593s-601 for R300 (second hand obviously), is that a good deal? Or are they very outdated and better to look at newer models?
Thanks
I have that exact model which I'm using for Telkom Fixed LTE and it works great. The B593s-601 is a CAT4 LTE device, so should offer almost the same performance as the newer B315.
That said, if you were hoping to use it with MTN Fixed LTE, you're out of luck.
Still though. if you can get a Huawei B315 for around the same price, rather go for that instead.
Why will it not work with MTN fixed LTE but it will work with Telkom fixed LTE? How about Rain?
Totempole
Executive Member
MTN insists on CAT6 LTE devices or better, while Telkom is a lot more flexible in that regard.
It will work with Rain yes, but you won't be getting the best performance possible. For that you'd also be better off with a Huawei B525 or B618, although you're unlikely to find one of those for less than R1000, secondhand.
Thanks for the reply. Does the device broadbast what "CAT" it is? Is there no way to trick the device to work on MTN?
Totempole
Executive Member
Basically, the higher the category, the better the overall performance/efficiency of the device. Below is a very simplified chart of the theoretical maximum performance across various catergories.
A Cat4 device will work on MTN's network for maybe an hour before they block the sim/device combo. They insist on "preapproved" Cat6 devices presumably for efficient use of the available spectrum. That said, I believe that you can get away with using an unlisted Cat6 compliant device, but anything below Cat6 will not be allowed.
This article should help to shed some extra light on things as well.
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/cell...-difference-between-lte-and-lte-advanced.html
Cat4 and below considered regular LTE, while Cat6 is LTE-Advanced.
Thanks for the graphic/table. So they actively scan for devices and block those with slow speeds?Basically, the higher the category, the better the overall performance/efficiency of the device. Below is a very simplified chart of the theoretical maximum performance across various catergories.
A Cat4 device will work on MTN's network for maybe an hour before they block the sim/device combo. They insist on "preapproved" Cat6 devices presumably for efficient use of the available spectrum. That said, I believe that you can get away with using an unlisted Cat6 compliant device, but anything below Cat6 will not be allowed.
This article should help to shed some extra light on things as well.
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/cell...-difference-between-lte-and-lte-advanced.html
Cat4 and below considered regular LTE, while Cat6 is LTE-Advanced.
I was thinking of using Afrihost with it but I think Afrihost uses MTN right? So that wouldn't work...
Totempole
Executive Member
Afrihost does Telkom Fixed LTE packages as well, but yes, MTN does check for and block sims used in devices that aren't Cat6 compliant from their fixed LTE network.
Thanks for the update. How does the device broadbast its "cat" capability? Is there any way to 'spoof' it to work on MTN?
Totempole
Executive Member
I'm not exactly sure how their detections systems work, but I'd guess that maybe regular LTE and LTE-Advanced each use different protocols to connect to the towers.
Very unlikely that there's any way to spoof the device to work due to the physical limitations of the hardware.