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[Crusader]

Couldn't run for 10 days and now it's all gone.

Everything hurt on today's base run. 7.02 km / 45:11 / 6:26/km Avg Pace / 529 Calories / 150 Avg HR



Need to work on getting that HR down again.

 

[Crusader]

Anyone managed to grab something from the Puma 40% off sale? Only saw the email now and it seems the code is already expired.

 

[Crusader]

They have a 30% off today. Sadly none of the items actually seem to be eligible as far as I can find.

 

[Crusader]

Some advice needed from more experienced runners. @8letters

I'm slowly getting back to running while still struggling with some sinus/allergy issues. Think I might be allergic to my work environment, every afternoon after work I get hit with a huge headache (throughout the day it's pretty low level). Trying to run again every second day (depending on how bad the headache is) after not being able to run for 10 days.

The runs feel pretty good now, but my HR is pretty much straight back to zone 3 for the entire run. Now the question is do I stick to my normal pace and just power through without worrying too much about HR or would it be better to fall back to slower pace and lower cadence while HR get backs to normal again?

Base run today: 10.13 km / 1:07:00 / 6:37/km Avg Pace / 766 Calories / 155 bpm Avg HR

 

[karnuffel]

Some advice needed from more experienced runners. @8letters

I'm slowly getting back to running while still struggling with some sinus/allergy issues. Think I might be allergic to my work environment, every afternoon after work I get hit with a huge headache (throughout the day it's pretty low level). Trying to run again every second day (depending on how bad the headache is) after not being able to run for 10 days.

The runs feel pretty good now, but my HR is pretty much straight back to zone 3 for the entire run. Now the question is do I stick to my normal pace and just power through without worrying too much about HR or would it be better to fall back to slower pace and lower cadence while HR get backs to normal again?

Base run today: 10.13 km / 1:07:00 / 6:37/km Avg Pace / 766 Calories / 155 bpm Avg HR

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Thats a pretty standard HR for me. I was on beta blockers for many years (I have high blood pressure) and it was a mission to get my HR above 150 (thinking Discovery points here...).

I went to a cardiologist and he nearly crapped a porcupine because I was on the beta blockers for so long. Long story short it took a bit of effort to find BP meds that worked for me but I had to adjust to a much higher HR. (beta blockers does lower HR) The cardiologist was quite happy with a average of 160 as long as its not for "extended periods". Apparently 2 to 3 hours are not seen as an extended period. I basically started my running from scratch and worked my way up to longer distances (not that the distances I do now are super wow).

So all in all, I stopped worrying about my HR going into the 180s every now and then. My VO2 max went from a 45 to a 39 because of the change in HR.

For me the test is can I talk during a run and I just listen to my body, it tells me very quickly when Im being stupid.

 

[Crusader]

Thats a pretty standard HR for me. I was on beta blockers for many years (I have high blood pressure) and it was a mission to get my HR above 150 (thinking Discovery points here...).

I went to a cardiologist and he nearly crapped a porcupine because I was on the beta blockers for so long. Long story short it took a bit of effort to find BP meds that worked for me but I had to adjust to a much higher HR. (beta blockers does lower HR) The cardiologist was quite happy with a average of 160 as long as its not for "extended periods". Apparently 2 to 3 hours are not seen as an extended period. I basically started my running from scratch and worked my way up to longer distances (not that the distances I do now are super wow).

So all in all, I stopped worrying about my HR going into the 180s every now and then. My VO2 max went from a 45 to a 39 because of the change in HR.

For me the test is can I talk during a run and I just listen to my body, it tells me very quickly when Im being stupid.

It's on the high end for me. At the same pace I was at 145 bpm prior to getting ill.

Strangely my resting HR and avg while not exercising remained the same.

 

[Crusader]

Seeing some improvement. Need to get consistency now.

Friday: Base [goal 45:00@141 bpm]: 7.25 km / 47:00 / 6:29/km Avg Pace / 533 Calories / 148 bpm Avg HR
A nice and cool day after a a thunderstorm.


Today: Base [goal 45:00@141 bpm]: 7.12 km / 46:00 / 6:28/km Avg Pace / 539 Calories / 149 bpm Avg HR
Much hotter so spent more time in zone 3. Difference now is that I'm at 147-148 bpm instead of 150+.

 

[wise_guy]

Hey runners. Is R2000 for "Joma" brand shoes a good price? My girl wanted Nike but almost fell on my back when I saw it costs R4300. Mr P sports have these weird brands that Iv'e never heard of but still costs R1200 - R2000

There's life beyond Nike. Stay away from Mr P. For less than R1.5k you can get Adidas Duraspeeds, ASICS GT1000 and some premium brands when theyre on sale.
There's a ON store in Rosebank always has end of range for good prices.
Reebok also coming up with their top rated Floatzig range.
Hoka, Brooks, Saucony, Puma also has great shoes for less than R2K.

 

[Zanonad]

Hey runners. Is R2000 for "Joma" brand shoes a good price? My girl wanted Nike but almost fell on my back when I saw it costs R4300. Mr P sports have these weird brands that Iv'e never heard of but still costs R1200 - R2000

Give Puma a try. I was also a Nike runner until I went to a Puma 5km run event. Swopped my Nikes for a pair of Velocity's and besides enjoying the evening run, ran my fastest 5km without any issues. Went and bought a pair the next week. Now I alternate between Nike, Adidas and Puma for road while sticking to Salomon for trails.

 

[L-Dog]

Any good sports podiatrists you guys can recommend in PTA ?

I have used Franklin Dubowitz in the past great but looking for someone closer to home.

 

[8letters]

Some advice needed from more experienced runners. @8letters

I'm slowly getting back to running while still struggling with some sinus/allergy issues. Think I might be allergic to my work environment, every afternoon after work I get hit with a huge headache (throughout the day it's pretty low level). Trying to run again every second day (depending on how bad the headache is) after not being able to run for 10 days.

The runs feel pretty good now, but my HR is pretty much straight back to zone 3 for the entire run. Now the question is do I stick to my normal pace and just power through without worrying too much about HR or would it be better to fall back to slower pace and lower cadence while HR get backs to normal again?

Base run today: 10.13 km / 1:07:00 / 6:37/km Avg Pace / 766 Calories / 155 bpm Avg HR

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Apologies I missed this.
Your HR will return to normal. Whats your max HR? Your zone 3 might actually be your zone 2. Back in the day we did not have HR monitors so would just run our easy run at what they called conversation pace. Your more elite runners only use 3 HR zones. My max is 204bpm. Most of my easy runs are at 144bmp.

 

[8letters]

There's life beyond Nike. Stay away from Mr P. For less than R1.5k you can get Adidas Duraspeeds, ASICS GT1000 and some premium brands when theyre on sale.
There's a ON store in Rosebank always has end of range for good prices.
Reebok also coming up with their top rated Floatzig range.
Hoka, Brooks, Saucony, Puma also has great shoes for less than R2K.

Joma's not bad actually. Someone I know is sponsord by them.

 

[8letters]

Give Puma a try. I was also a Nike runner until I went to a Puma 5km run event. Swopped my Nikes for a pair of Velocity's and besides enjoying the evening run, ran my fastest 5km without any issues. Went and bought a pair the next week. Now I alternate between Nike, Adidas and Puma for road while sticking to Salomon for trails.

+1 for Puma. @Zanowait till you run in a pair of deviate nitro 3's you will PB over all distances.

 

[8letters]

They have a 30% off today. Sadly none of the items actually seem to be eligible as far as I can find.

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There will be a easter sale.

 

[Crusader]

Apologies I missed this.
Your HR will return to normal. Whats your max HR? Your zone 3 might actually be your zone 2. Back in the day we did not have HR monitors so would just run our easy run at what they called conversation pace. Your more elite runners only use 3 HR zones. My max is 204bpm. Most of my easy runs are at 144bmp.

Already seeing improvement. Max HR should be around 190 - 192. Been a while since I pushed myself to the max.

+1 for Puma. @Zanowait till you run in a pair of deviate nitro 3's you will PB over all distances.

Or you will score a black toenail as consolation prize.

There will be a easter sale.

Hope so. Or do you have inside info? I need to pick up the other ForeverRun 2 colourway. The more I run with it the more I like the FRR 2. The width & toebox is perfect for me.

 

[RunningFromFat]

I think you also have to consider that heart rate monitors are also not always accurate.

 

[8letters]

Already seeing improvement. Max HR should be around 190 - 192. Been a while since I pushed myself to the max.


Or you will score a black toenail as consolation prize.

Hope so. Or do you have inside info? I need to pick up the other ForeverRun 2 colourway. The more I run with it the more I like the FRR 2. The width & toebox is perfect for me.

I sometimes get black toenails if I run in the heat ie. Afternoon workout when it's 32+ degrees celcuis.
Else I Don't really get any.
Puma
had a easter sale last year but it was only 40% discount. Either way I need 2 pairs of velocity's or whatever is available so that I have enough ahoes to last till black Friday. I'm burning through the rubber at a ridiculous pace atm.

 

[8letters]

I think you also have to consider that heart rate monitors are also not always accurate.

Chest straps are quite accurate thats why I wear one. I often compare my chest strap to my watch built in HR on monitor. The wrist based monitor is definitely delayed and only accurate when you just walk around or don't do anything intense that builds up a sweat.

 

[Crusader]

Chest straps are quite accurate thats why I wear one. I often compare my chest strap to my watch built in HR on monitor. The wrist based monitor is definitely delayed an only accurate when you just walk around or don't do anything intense that builds up a sweat.

I've found the FR165 HR sensor to be pretty good. At least compared to reading on the exercise bike and band 7.

Only thing I've seen was the lag at the start of runs and during interval sessions. The HR spikes are there, just slightly delayed.

Might have to look into picking up a chest strap. Any recommendations?

Anyone know how good the Suunto Smart V3 is? See it's a bit cheaper than the Garmin and Polar versions.

 

[8letters]

I've found the FR165 HR sensor to be pretty good. At least compared to reading on the exercise bike and band 7.

Only thing I've seen was the lag at the start of runs and during interval sessions. The HR spikes are there, just slightly delayed.

Might have to look into picking up a chest strap. Any recommendations?

Anyone know how good the Suunto Smart V3 is? See it's a bit cheaper than the Garmin and Polar versions.

I have the garmin HRM pro plus and the garmin HRM Dual. When it come to measuring you HR both are good. The Pro plus tracks some extra stuff like stride length, vertical oscillation, ground contact time etc. Vertical oscillation and ground contact time seems to be more accurate with the HRm than with the watch.