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UrBaN963 · Oct 31, 2019

Is there a particular reason to go with the Tomahawk Max, any particular features you need there?

There are lower-end B450 boards which should work just fine, giving you additional budget towards the GPU which, if it’s a gaming rig, is where most of your performance is going to come from.

Robvd · Oct 31, 2019

UrBaN963 said:
Is there a particular reason to go with the Tomahawk Max, any particular features you need there?

There are lower-end B450 boards which should work just fine, giving you additional budget towards the GPU which, if it’s a gaming rig, is where most of your performance is going to come from.

I would just like to future proof for any upgrades that I might need in a few years.

Is the Rx 5700 not good enough?

Robvd · Oct 31, 2019

Think I have dediced on a monitor as well:

Alienware AW2518HF 25" Gaming Monitor - South Africa

www.evetech.co.za

UrBaN963 · Oct 31, 2019

Robvd said:
I would just like to future proof for any upgrades that I might need in a few years.

Is the Rx 5700 not good enough?

Sure, but then you’d be looking more at X470
Or X570 for future proofing, but those are way more expensive.

Main things to consider would be:
Are you overclocking? If so, you’d want something with good VRMs. If not; it’s a non issue.
Number of NVME slots you want.
Wi-fi required or not
Number of RAM slots and speed.

There’s not much else to differentiate the B450 boards beyond perhaps the on-board sound and added nice-to-haves (heat spreaders etc).

A GPU is what will determine your gaming performance. There’s nothing wrong with an RX5700.

UrBaN963 · Oct 31, 2019

Just went through some pricing now. That’s a good deal on the RX 5700, only thing would be those blower style cards get quite hot. The one for R6149 May be better from a cooling perspective which means higher overall sustained clocks (speed essentially. )

Robvd · Oct 31, 2019

UrBaN963 said:
Just went through some pricing now. That’s a good deal on the RX 5700, only thing would be those blower style cards get quite hot. The one for R6149 May be better from a cooling perspective which means higher overall sustained clocks (speed essentially. )

Thanks, I might be able to add the few hundred extra for that.

Robvd · Oct 31, 2019

Thanks for the input so far guys, here is the final list I have come up with:

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Hexa Core 3.6GHz (4.2GHz Boost) Socket AM4 Desktop CPU ETA: 8 November 2019	+-	R3,799.00
Phanteks PH-EC400ATG_DBK01 Eclipse P400A Digital RGB Tempered Glass Satin Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Desktop Chassis In stock with Wootware	+-	R1,299.00
MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX AMD B450 Ryzen Socket AM4 ATX Desktop Motherboard *	+-	R2,364.00
G.Skill F4-3200C16D-16GTZR TridentZ RGB 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3200MHz CL16 1.35V Desktop Memory In stock with Wootware	+-	R1,939.00
Mushkin MKNSSDHL500GB-D8 Helix-L 500GB M.2 (2280) PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive In stock with Wootware	+-	R1,049.00
Super Flower SF-650F14MT(BK) Leadex 650W 80 Plus Silver Certified Fully Modular Black Desktop Power Supply In stock with Wootware	+-	R1,349.00
XFX Radeon RX 5700 DD RX-57XL8LFD6 8GB GDDR6 256-bit PCIe 4.0 Desktop Graphics Card In stock with Wootware

Alienware AW2518HF - R5999 (I have ebucks though, so would essentialy get this for R5k)

schuits · Oct 31, 2019

Don't forget a secondary HDD.

Robvd · Oct 31, 2019

schuits said:
Don't forget a secondary HDD.

Yes, will buy that seperately, one more question though... Is the case fine? I see there is a MSI case as well: https://www.wootware.co.za/msi-mag-vampiric-010-black-rgb-atx-mid-tower-desktop-chassis.html

ponder · Oct 31, 2019

Robvd said:
Is the Rx 5700 not good enough?

The blower style coolers are not great, at 21C ambient you gonna hit ~77C on the card, expect higher with our summers if you don't have aircon.

You could go for a cheaper motherboard but at this time there seems to be no stock on the boards I would recommend from woot/rebel as they are popular and sold out.

Ram wise you can save some money going with the G.Skill F4-3200C16D-16GVKB kit that works fine at the rated clock speeds.

ponder · Oct 31, 2019

Robvd said:
Yes, will buy that seperately, one more question though... Is the case fine? I see there is a MSI case as well: https://www.wootware.co.za/msi-mag-vampiric-010-black-rgb-atx-mid-tower-desktop-chassis.html

Stick with the phanteks you picked, it has great airflow!

Lupus · Oct 31, 2019

Robvd said:
Ok so I have updated the build on wootware:

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Hexa Core 3.6GHz (4.2GHz Boost) Socket AM4 Desktop CPU
ETA: 8 November 2019 +- R3,799.00
Phanteks PH-EC400ATG_DBK01 Eclipse P400A Digital RGB Tempered Glass Satin Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Desktop Chassis
In stock with Wootware +- R1,299.00
MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX AMD B450 Ryzen Socket AM4 ATX Desktop Motherboard * +- R2,364.00
G.Skill F4-3200C16D-16GTZR TridentZ RGB 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3200MHz CL16 1.35V Desktop Memory
In stock with Wootware +- R1,939.00
Mushkin MKNSSDHL500GB-D8 Helix-L 500GB M.2 (2280) PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive
In stock with Wootware +- R1,049.00
Super Flower SF-650F14MT(BK) Leadex 650W 80 Plus Silver Certified Fully Modular Black Desktop Power Supply
In stock with Wootware +- R1,349.00
XFX Radeon RX 5700 RX-57XL8MFG6 8GB GDDR6 256-bit PCI-E 4.0 Desktop Graphics Card
Limited stock remaining +- R5,749.00

Is this a good future proof setup? Anything you would change?

You don't need the RGB RAM unless you want it to be lit up. 650W is also technically overkill I mean it's not a bad thing to have the extra wattage if needed, but you don't really need it. But it should be future proof as much as you can future proof yourself in the PC world.

Saba'a · Oct 31, 2019

ponder said:
Can't you just spec your own components and get a company or two to quote on it which gets submitted to insurance and they pay out the cash to you? That's what I did.

I can but ito cash they want to pay company directly.

Think I'll submit to wootware, evetech and maybe another company.

ponder · Oct 31, 2019

adielk said:
I can but ito cash they want to pay company directly.

Think I'll submit to wootware, evetech and maybe another company.

rather rebeltech than evetech, titan-ice is a 3rd one

Robvd · Oct 31, 2019

ponder said:
The blower style coolers are not great, at 21C ambient you gonna hit ~77C on the card, expect higher with our summers if you don't have aircon.

You could go for a cheaper motherboard but at this time there seems to be no stock on the boards I would recommend from woot/rebel as they are popular and sold out.

Ram wise you can save some money going with the G.Skill F4-3200C16D-16GVKB kit that works fine at the rated clock speeds.

Thank you Ponder, The GPU I am looking at now has different fans than the normal 5700:

XFX Radeon RX 5700 DD RX-57XL8LFD6 8GB GDDR6 256-bit PCIe 4.0 Desktop Graphics Card - Wootware

Buy XFX Radeon RX 5700 DD RX-57XL8LFD6 8GB GDDR6 256-bit PCIe 4.0 Desktop Graphics Card at Wootware with fast shipping & superb service.

www.wootware.co.za

Would this be a good enough card?

Thank you

Robvd · Oct 31, 2019

Lupus said:
You don't need the RGB RAM unless you want it to be lit up. 650W is also technically overkill I mean it's not a bad thing to have the extra wattage if needed, but you don't really need it. But it should be future proof as much as you can future proof yourself in the PC world.

Yeah, im spending a few extra bucks to make it look nice in my man cave haha

ponder · Oct 31, 2019

Robvd said:
Thank you Ponder, The GPU I am looking at now has different fans than the normal 5700:

XFX Radeon RX 5700 DD RX-57XL8LFD6 8GB GDDR6 256-bit PCIe 4.0 Desktop Graphics Card - Wootware

Buy XFX Radeon RX 5700 DD RX-57XL8LFD6 8GB GDDR6 256-bit PCIe 4.0 Desktop Graphics Card at Wootware with fast shipping & superb service.

www.wootware.co.za

Would this be a good enough card?

I cannot find any info on that model number, not even on the xfx site. If it's anything like the Radeon RX 5700 DD Ultra model then yes it will be better.

Flashing a Radeon RX 5700 to 5700 XT: Free 10% Performance Boost

In addition to our launch day reviews of the Radeon RX 5700 and 5700 XT, we followed up with extended comparisons, overclocking, and more. Most recently enthusiasts...

www.techspot.com

Robvd · Oct 31, 2019

ponder said:
I cannot find any info on that model number, not even on the xfx site. If it's anything like the Radeon RX 5700 DD Ultra model then yes it will be better.

Flashing a Radeon RX 5700 to 5700 XT: Free 10% Performance Boost

In addition to our launch day reviews of the Radeon RX 5700 and 5700 XT, we followed up with extended comparisons, overclocking, and more. Most recently enthusiasts...

www.techspot.com

Here you go it's this one: https://www.xfxforce.com/gpus/radeon-tm-rx-5700-dd-ultra-8gb-gddr6

ponder · Oct 31, 2019

Robvd said:
Here you go it's this one: https://www.xfxforce.com/gpus/radeon-tm-rx-5700-dd-ultra-8gb-gddr6

No it's not, that's the DD ULTRA RX-57XL8LBD6 the one sold by woot is not the ultra using RX-57XL8LFD6 model number which google is oblivious of. No worries I queried it with woot to get some clarification. If it turns out to be the same then you're good.

Robvd · Oct 31, 2019

ponder said:
No it's not, that's the DD ULTRA RX-57XL8LBD6 the one sold by woot is not the ultra using RX-57XL8LFD6 model number which google is oblivious of. No worries I queried it with woot to get some clarification. If it turns out to be the same then you're good.

I see!! thanks for that, really appreaciate it!

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