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L-Dog said:
Magala running 2km in under 8:30, I want to see that!
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Don't see how a bowler, running 2km in under 8:30 is a valid metric.

Can he bowl 10/15/20 overs on the trot, and still bowl the last ball as good as his first ball, would be a better metric surely?
 
elf_lord_ZC5 said:
Don't see how a bowler, running 2km in under 8:30 is a valid metric.

Can he bowl 10/15/20 overs on the trot, and still bowl the last ball as good as his first ball, would be a better metric surely?
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100% agreed and surely there should be different tests for T20 and test cricket.
 
karnuffel said:
I have to admit I dont think there are many people that will be able to do that, but then again most of us aren't professional sportsmen.
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There are very few who can be expected to do that, and even fewer, of those are likely to be any good at cricket. I have yet to see a cricketer do two km on the field.

Run between the wickets yes - run 20 odd meters to catch the ball yes, 2km no.
 
elf_lord_ZC5 said:
Run between the wickets yes - run 20 odd meters to catch the ball yes, 2km no.
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We used to regularly train at both endurance and sprinting. And this was at school level. They both have applications on the field.

It's not about running between wickets, or running to catch the ball. It's the stop-go nature that you need to train your body for. You're constantly running, pausing, running, pausing.

Imagine doing a 200m sprint, then while you're catching your breath at the end, you have to run again, then catch your breath and run again etc. Not the same thing as just doing a flat 2km where you can get into a rhythm...
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
We used to regularly train at both endurance and sprinting. And this was at school level. They both have applications on the field.

It's not about running between wickets, or running to catch the ball. It's the stop-go nature that you need to train your body for. You're constantly running, pausing, running, pausing.

Imagine doing a 200m sprint, then while you're catching your breath at the end, you have to run again, then catch your breath and run again etc. Not the same thing as just doing a flat 2km where you can get into a rhythm...
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Yeah, that is what I am getting at. You run stop run stop in cricket, there might be value in using 2 km run as a metric, as long as you can complete it in a reasonable time, not talking about a top time. But yeah, such is life
 
I suspect that the 2km run has it's roots in the old Army 2,4km test. Which came from here...

"For interest the 1.5 mile (2.4 km) test is known as “The Cooper test”, originally designed by Kenneth H. Cooper in 1968 for US military use to test for physical fitness."
 
ghaye said:
I suspect that the 2km run has it's roots in the old Army 2,4km test. Which came from here...

"For interest the 1.5 mile (2.4 km) test is known as “The Cooper test”, originally designed by Kenneth H. Cooper in 1968 for US military use to test for physical fitness."
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My thoughts as well, and yes, when I was young and fit, I could do the 2.4 in the prescribed time, many tho could not, and did not mean they where unfit, just not fast and fit.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
www.news24.com

Hype over Brevis' unlikely Proteas World Cup claim belies fact that unleashing him is timely | Sport

Dewald Brevis' mildly surprising inclusion in the Proteas' ODI squad for the series against Australia suggests an unexpected World Cup call-up may not be all that far-fetched.
www.news24.com www.news24.com

So I don't see why it's a choice between Brevis or Stubbs, it has to be both. Not even about quotas either, the only question mark was Bavuma and he's way better in ODIs than the other formats...
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Sorta makes one wonder why, but yeah, so it is.
 
elf_lord_ZC5 said:
Just because other countries have it, does not make it good idea ...

And if you have to have it, create with sane criteria.

Just saying.

Merit should be the only criterion for selection. But this is quota South Africa, so that is not valid here.

Seems like here we just feck forth, with our eyes closed, and hope we don't fall into a ditch somewhere.
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Well considering that one of the countries that use it as only a guideline is current WC champs it seems like a good idea.

If England were to be strict on these tests for instance Stokes would never play this past ashes. No way he could make the time trial hobbling on his one knee.
Still had a good ashes with bat and captaincy.
 
stefan9 said:
Well considering that one of the countries that use it as only a guideline is current WC champs it seems like a good idea.

If England were to be strict on these tests for instance Stokes would never play this past ashes. No way he could make the time trial hobbling on his one knee.
Still had a good ashes with bat and captaincy.
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Key there is "guideline" not an absolute edict, as was previously done here. Or used as an excuse, by the hierarchy, to exclude non favored players.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
www.news24.com

Hype over Brevis' unlikely Proteas World Cup claim belies fact that unleashing him is timely | Sport

Dewald Brevis' mildly surprising inclusion in the Proteas' ODI squad for the series against Australia suggests an unexpected World Cup call-up may not be all that far-fetched.
www.news24.com www.news24.com

So I don't see why it's a choice between Brevis or Stubbs, it has to be both. Not even about quotas either, the only question mark was Bavuma and he's way better in ODIs than the other formats...
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How many reserve batsmen are you taking to the WC? You can only take 15 players.

The first 6 are pretty much nailed on.

1.Qdk
2.Temba
3.Rassie
4.Aiden
5.Klaassen
6.Miller
7.Parnell
8.Keshav
9.Fortuin
10.Nortje
11.KG

Rest of squad:
12.Reeza
13/14.Jansen/Coetzee/Magala/Ngidi(2 of 3)
14.Stubbs/Brevis
 
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