The road to serfdom

[lion_fish]

Why oh Why is the western world allowing this diliberate islamification to happen?

 

[Alan]

Why oh Why is the western world allowing this diliberate islamification to happen?

Appeasement.

 

[Xarog]

DOCTORS GIVE IN TO MUSLIMS



*sigh*

What next

No moderate Muslim is offended by a non Muslim eating during Ramadan

Yeah, we can just see the masses of Muslims lending their support to this idea...

I mean ffs, you've got one idiot on a political advisory board advocating some stupid idea, and yet you immediately brand the idiot as a fanatic.

There's definitely a fanatic around here, but it isn't that guy.

 

[Gothan]

Why oh Why is the western world allowing this diliberate islamification to happen?

Its called political correctness, the next global epidemic, everyone is so afraid to hurt someone else's feelings

 

[Alan]

Yeah, we can just see the masses of Muslims lending their support to this idea...

I mean ffs, you've got one idiot on a political advisory board advocating some stupid idea, and yet you immediately brand the idiot as a fanatic.

There's definitely a fanatic around here, but it isn't that guy.

Yeah it's you


I never called him a fanatic .

But now that you mentioned it......

 

[Xarog]

Yeah it's you

You're right. I'm a fanatic when it comes to speaking out against bigotry. But I'm not the only fanatic around here.

I never called him a fanatic.

Let's do this in baby steps then :

1. "No moderate Muslim is offended by a non Muslim eating during Ramadan."

2. Ergo, a moderate muslim would not suggest that there be any change in behaviour because the current behaviour doesn't bother him.

3. Ergo, someone who DOES suggest a change of behaviour is?

 

[Alan]

You're right. I'm a fanatic when it comes to speaking out against bigotry. But I'm not the only fanatic around here.

Then you must have endless arguments with your mirror

Let's do this in baby steps then :

1. "No moderate Muslim is offended by a non Muslim eating during Ramadan."

2. Ergo, a moderate muslim would not suggest that there be any change in behaviour because the current behaviour doesn't bother him.

3. Ergo, someone who DOES suggest a change of behaviour is?

Well done you make a good case for the guy being a fanatic yet don't believe he is one You assume he would want it changed because he found it offensive so what does that make him? Unless of course you don't think getting offended by someone eating during ramadan is fanatical?

 

[JK8]

Awe Alan you makes us feel so special!

Do you give this much attention to your wife?

 

[McSack]

I think there are more people who find farting in public offensive than muslims who find infidels eating during Ramadan offensive.

(Just ran this one by some of my muzi buddies in the office and they reckon their abilty to overcome the temptation will earn them 7 extra virgins in the afterlife anyway. So my standard russian and slap chips lunch is only doing them good during October)

 

[JK8]

I think there are more people who find farting in public offensive than muslims who find infidels eating during Ramadan offensive.

(Just ran this one by some of my muzi buddies in the office and they reckon their abilty to overcome the temptation will earn them 7 extra virgins in the afterlife anyway. So my standard russian and slap chips lunch is only doing them good during October)

Lol what??? Did he really say that?

Its not a big thing, a non muslim can eat, its not like its our first time fasting, we been fasting all our lives. We know we can handle it even the smell of food. People who own restaurants still fast during the day.

I think its only a problem when people really make it obvious by making you liss and deliberately making noises. But we all been through that doesnt bother us.

 

[Alan]

Lol what??? Did he really say that?

Its not a big thing, a non muslim can eat, its not like its our first time fasting, we been fasting all our lives. We know we can handle it even the smell of food. People who own restaurants still fast during the day.

I think its only a problem when people really make it obvious by making you liss and deliberately making noises. But we all been through that doesnt bother us.

Exactly



So you do have traces moderation

 

[McSack]

Lol what??? Did he really say that?

?? the part about public flatulence or the virgins in the afterlife??
In both cases the answer is...

Yup ... which caused mayhem in the office with all the other muslims within earshot ROFL

Its not a big thing, a non muslim can eat, its not like its our first time fasting, we been fasting all our lives. We know we can handle it even the smell of food. People who own restaurants still fast during the day.

I think its only a problem when people really make it obvious by making you liss and deliberately making noises. But we all been through that doesnt bother us.

That's exactly the problem. I don't think any religious group should be imposing thier beliefs on others. Unfortunately this happens all the time ... I mean what's with the damn christians forcing the jews to take christmas and easter holidays

 

[Alan]

?? the part about public flatulence or the virgins in the afterlife??
In both cases the answer is...

Yup ... which caused mayhem in the office with all the other muslims within earshot ROFL

I once heard a lady say "drie hook **** cook" in an office with lots of people of Indian and Pakistani origin. The silence after was deafening

Rightfully so. That is offensive not eating at your desk during Ramadan

 

[McSack]

?? the part about public flatulence or the virgins in the afterlife??
In both cases the answer is...

Yup ... which caused mayhem in the office with all the other muslims within earshot ROFL

Some judicial highlighting. Very un-PC of them

 

[Xarog]

Then you must have endless arguments with your mirror

You'd be surprised how well my mirror and I get on.

Well done you make a good case for the guy being a fanatic yet don't believe he is one

Only because I followed your fallacious logic. You believe that a moderate muslim would not be offended, not me. I, on the other hand, am well aware that PC idiots come in all shapes and sizes and there's no doubt quite a few westerners running around going "omgwtf, you guys can't eat during the day in front of muslims while it's their ramadan!"

Yeah, not so much.

You assume he would want it changed because he found it offensive

Wrong.

so what does that make him?

Nothing, because his alleged fanatacism isn't what made him promote this.

Unless of course you don't think getting offended by someone eating during ramadan is fanatical?

No, I think it's stupid. Just like getting offended by someone who screws a dead deer is stupid.

 

[Alan]

Only because I followed your fallacious logic. You believe that a moderate muslim would not be offended, not me. I, on the other hand, am well aware that PC idiots come in all shapes and sizes and there's no doubt quite a few westerners running around going "omgwtf, you guys can't eat during the day in front of muslims while it's their ramadan!"

So you believe a muslim offended by it is moderate .

Nothing, because his alleged fanatacism isn't what made him promote this.

Like I said I never called him a fanatic even though you made a great case for it when trying to prove that I supposidly said it in your odd little world . I'd say he is an egotist trying to blow his own trumpet to cause **** and get in the news.

No, I think it's stupid. Just like getting offended by someone who screws a dead deer is stupid.

Or a dead human

 

[Xarog]

So you believe a muslim offended by it is moderate .

No, I believe they are niether moderate nor fanatic since being offended by something isn't a sign of fanaticism.

Like I said I never called him a fanatic even though you made a great case for it when trying to that I did supposidly say it in your odd little world . I'd say he is an egotist trying to blow his own trumpet to cause **** and get in the news.

Branding someone as a fanatic and saying someone is a fanatic is not the same thing. In this case you did it by implication rather than by explicitly saying so.

Or a dead human

Since this debate is more interesting that the drivel you've been promoting so far :

If a person who has died, expressed their wish that someone else screw them after they die, then, yes, someone else being offended by it is an idiot.

 

[Alan]

No, I believe they are niether moderate nor fanatic since being offended by something isn't a sign of fanaticism.

No of course not

Branding someone as a fanatic and saying someone is a fanatic is not the same thing. In this case you did it by implication rather than by explicitly saying so.

Your little world is interesting. Lots of "He didn't actually say it but implicated it/ he said it but didn't actually mean it. It was rhetoric/ There's no proof he said it, in fact there is evidence he said something completely opposite but fsck that I stand by what I said" in that world.

If a person who has died, expressed their wish that someone else screw them after they die, then, yes, someone else being offended by it is an idiot.

You poor sod. When the extremists go on their recruiting they point to people like you and say" look what the west offers. People shagging dogs and humans"

Anyway that's all been covered before so why do you feel need to participate in this uninteresting "drivel" thread anyway

 

[Xarog]

No of course not

Oh, right, making stupid suggestions is the sign of a fanatic.

Your little world is interesting.

Thanks.

Lots of "He didn't actually say it but implicated it/ he said it but didn't actually mean it. It was rhetoric/ There's no proof he said it, in fact there is evidence he said something completely opposite but fsck that I stand by what I said" in that world.

Not quite. It was the only logical conclusion of your words. I elaborated upon that logic and you couldn't help but agree, even going as far as to mistake it for my actual thought processes. Conclusive proof if ever there was such a thing.

You poor sod.

Hah, that's rich.

When the extremists go on their recruiting they point to people like you and say" look what the west offers. People shagging dogs and humans"

And you hop into bed right along with them.

Anyway that's all been covered before so why do you feel need to participate in this uninteresting "drivel" thread anyway

Like I said, I'm a fanatic when it comes to countering bigotry, even if the contents of the bigotry is mundane and repetitive.

 

[Slooth]

Good article and boy does it ring true.