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MuterOfWorlds said:
Player drain? It's not like they can't pick the players who are playing abroad? There was a video of them discussing this, and how players going overseas is of benefit to them, as it means the scope gets made wider, with our players for potential Bok selection are developed by more teams than just our local franchises, giving them a larger pool, not smaller, on our limit Rugby budget being a small nation.
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I'm referring specifically to the domestic franchises, the quality and quantity of personnel at their disposal and the net effect it has on their high profile players.

Every SA franchise loses players to foreign leagues, every season.

The composition of every local franchise is 99% South African born and based players. They can't afford and don't contract foreign players. This effects the quality of the squad. If you can't source a 4th choice prop locally, unlucky. You get what you get.

If the quality of your squad isn't up to scratch you not going to be playing that 4th choice prop as often as you'd like so Kitshoff finds himself playing 80% of the season.

And therein lies the rub...

I hope I've explained it in a way that makes sense...
 
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In hindsight this is the only way they could avoid giving him a 6 Match ban, if the card was upheld, then given his record it's a 6 Match ban entry point, only way to have him play the whole world cup is to reverse the red card decision.

Don't think I saw one person during the week who disagreed that it was a clear red card. Crazy decision.
 
Only people besides Farrel celebrating this are the lawyer's currently suing world Rugby on behalf of former players for head injuries. This will be used as proof that they don't take safety seriously.
 
sand_man said:
Please don't act surprised. Look at the state of rugby, the laws that govern it and you still expect to find consistency in the hallways of the games head office? It's like looking for a virgin in a whorehouse.
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World Rugby really losing their last bit of credibility - TMO given 10 minutes to review the yellow card and decides on a red, yet decision is overturned afterwards. Throwing their own refs under the bus. Just shows again, predict the disciplinary hearing by the who, not the what.
 
stefan9 said:
Only people besides Farrel celebrating this are the lawyer's currently suing world Rugby on behalf of former players for head injuries. This will be used as proof that they don't take safety seriously.
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BS. Players know and accept the risk. This will just ruin rugby if it is even allowed.

Just like you know you might break your leg, you might get any injury, your own voluntary participation indemnifies all other parties.

This is true for all sports.
 
rietrot said:
BS. Players know and accept the risk. This will just ruin rugby if it is even allowed.

Just like you know you might break your leg, you might get any injury, your own voluntary participation indemnifies all other parties.

This is true for all sports.
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Yeah, that's BS, you don't get any kind of indemnity if you injure something while breaking the laws of the game.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...s-tackle-wins-high-court-case-opposing-player

Rugby player paralysed after ‘reckless’ tackle wins case against opposing player


Judge finds Natasha King liable for unintentional injuries suffered by Dani Czernuszka in amateur game
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Cray said:
1/10 trolltrot.
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My comment was in regards to normal play.

To find a player personally liable you would have to show they intentionally tried to harm someone by doing something ridiculous like a "red mist" challenge (whatever that is?) Way beyond just a normal "accidental" high tackle.

That example is outside the scope of what I was commenting on.
 
rietrot said:
My comment was in regards to normal play.

To find a player personally liable you would have to show they intentionally tried to harm someone by doing something ridiculous like a "red mist" challenge (whatever that is?) Way beyond just a normal "accidental" high tackle.

That example is outside the scope of what I was commenting on.
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Ah, you can make a reasoned argument if you try. The opposing view to that is that Farrell intentionally high tackles people as he uses this as a way to physically dominate his opponents. I don't think he is going to get sued anytime soon but consider that Basham failed his head impact assessment and is still not cleared to play yet.

If world rugby refuses to punish him for what most people view as a clear red card incident it certainly raises questions about their commitment to player safety.
 
Cray said:
Ah, you can make a reasoned argument if you try. The opposing view to that is that Farrell intentionally high tackles people as he uses this as a way to physically dominate his opponents. I don't think he is going to get sued anytime soon but consider that Basham failed his head impact assessment and is still not cleared to play yet.

If world rugby refuses to punish him for what most people view as a clear red card incident it certainly raises questions about their commitment to player safety.
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World rugby screwed themselves by caring too much about players safety. That's why they have the ridiculous laws. And why they now realized they had to cuck on those laws not to ruin the world cup.

I just said this in the other world cup thread. Don't know why we have 2 rugby threads.

My only comment here now was nobody is going to sue world rugby for this.
 
sand_man said:
SA U18 and WP XV getting hammered this afternoon...

England U18 75 WP U18 XV 15
SA U18 24 France U18 37
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If what I've been seeing at Highschool u18 as well as club rugby lvl of coacheing being done the past few years, can't say I'm surprised tbh.
 
What was the outcome, or ban length for the Argie that took out the bok scrummy a few weeks ago?
 
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