The SA Politics Thread Part 3

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PrimeSteak said:
Those guys as well, except UDM I'm not so sure where they stand.

Maybe BOSA and RISE could get a seat or two...
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There are parties that could get a seat or two in KZN, those parties are not BOSA or RISE. KZN is a unique province and your politics must be aligned and suited specifically to that province.

Maybe they can try to woo Mavundla, he will come at a price but that's more realistic than banking on BOSA and RISE.
 
TheChamp said:
Who are their UF partners in KZN? Freedom Front, ACDP, COPE and UDM are non existent over there.
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I think the agreement with the IFP is probably along the lines of "you run KZN with our help, if you help us run the other provinces"...
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
I think the agreement with the IFP is probably along the lines of "you run KZN with our help, if you help us run the other provinces"...
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I would 100% expect the agreement to be along those lines...

You draw on our experience running WC and making it "the best", but you run the province in exchange for your assistance elsewhere at all levels.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
I think the agreement with the IFP is probably along the lines of "you run KZN with our help, if you help us run the other provinces"...
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Yeah, I just think they won't get enough votes between the two of them, that's why I was wondering who are their UF partners, since their partners I the other provinces are nowhere to be found in KZN.
 
TheChamp said:
Yeah, I just think they won't get enough votes between the two of them, that's why I was wondering who are their UF partners, since their partners I the other provinces are nowhere to be found in KZN.
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Well, rest assured neither IFP or DA will work with EFF, so...
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Who are the other players in KZN, apart from ANC/EFF/NFP? Is Minority Front still a thing? If it is then the charous could be a likely partner...
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From the 2019 elections

The players are largely :
ANC
DA
IFP
EFF
NFP
Minority Front
ATM
ACDP

I think ASA might sneak in this time around, but I'm not sure at the expense of which existing player.
 
ToxicBunny said:
From the 2019 elections

The players are largely :
ANC
DA
IFP
EFF
NFP
Minority Front
ATM
ACDP

I think ASA might sneak in this time around, but I'm not sure at the expense of which existing player.
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Most probably the DA, which kind of defeats the purpose.
 
PrimeSteak said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1625944554372272129

Agreed. Separate presidential elections are the way. A two-round system would work best instead of a winner-take-all.
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Ranked choice would mean no need for a 2nd election.

Also, if you're in favour of a directly elected President, are you in favour of Parliament losing it's vote of no confidence power?

Parliament can currently vote out the President as he draws authority from Parliament. If popularly elected Parliament would not be the source of power and would logically have to give up it's no confidence (but not impeachment) power.
 
TheChamp said:
Most probably the DA, which kind of defeats the purpose.
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I actually question that in KZN... the ASA have not done themselves any favours down here of late, and Bass Beaumont is seen as a whiney little biatch (at least in my general circles)
 
cr@zydude said:
Also, if you're in favour of a directly elected President, are you in favour of Parliament losing it's vote of no confidence power?
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Parliament can currently vote out the President as he draws authority from Parliament. If popularly elected Parliament would not be the source of power and would logically have to give up it's no confidence (but not impeachment) power.
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No. Parliament should be able to hold the President accountable (at least in theory, because that's not possible atm).

I don't see why the no-confidence thing would have to disappear tho if the President is directly elected?

Also, if the people can directly elect their President, it would serve the separation of powers.
 
ToxicBunny said:
From the 2019 elections

The players are largely :
ANC
DA
IFP
EFF
NFP
Minority Front
ATM
ACDP

I think ASA might sneak in this time around, but I'm not sure at the expense of which existing player.
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I'd say MF and NFP would fall away post-2024. ATM might hold on with a seat or two.
 
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