The SA Politics Thread Part 6

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Jam Sandwich said:
Any news on a new chief of pork yet or have i missed that somewhere?
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ToxicBunny said:
I heard somewhere that it was going to be done on Monday but I don't believe that to be honest, there is much horse trading and negotiating to be undertaken.
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I'd be surprised if Cyril and the gang don't use the weekend to complete horse trading.
 
If the DA get rid of this guy they can point out other racist MP's and ask for them to be removed as well, probably very wishful thinking on my part though, lol.
 
semaphore said:
This guy has said far worse things, not in your precious context. He can only hope they don’t find those streams.
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They must find those streams then, if he's said far worse then by all means. This is the internet nothing is lost forever, but for now within the context of the full video, he wasn't saying anything racist.
 
People now making excuses for Renaldo and saying **** like "out of context". That's exactly what Malema and SAHRC say about Shoot the Boer.

You guys defending Renaldo are exactly the same hypocrites as the eff and hrc.
 
wbot said:
People now making excuses for Renaldo and saying **** like "out of context". That's exactly what Malema and SAHRC say about Shoot the Boer.

You guys defending Renaldo are exactly the same hypocrites as the eff and hrc.
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Yes because the actual 6 minute video does give the context. He was reacting (over) to the whole debacle back in the 2010s. If there is more actual evidence he's racist sure, but right now they are editing videos to make him look it.
 
R13... said:
I get the sensitivity but you're being emotional. If you use your head you'll see that - all of the research data (by the farmers group I forget their name) is that farm murders are mostly economic crime.
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Yes. But with the extreme torture is an indication that there is a strong element of hate that should not be downplayed.

It is a lot of it is old people in the middle of nowhere who are easy targets and it is almost guaranteed that there's guns in the house that is not in use, not a threat to the criminals and locked up in a safe. That seems to me like the main target in some farm murders, to steal weapons to use in other crimes.
 
wbot said:
People now making excuses for Renaldo and saying **** like "out of context". That's exactly what Malema and SAHRC say about Shoot the Boer.

You guys defending Renaldo are exactly the same hypocrites as the eff and hrc.
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Renaldo was using those words as hyperbole to show why Shoot the Boer is wrong. The intention is to show why this type of speech is wrong. He was using them academically, if crude.

Malema's context is.... muh apartheid, and that Boer is a "metaphor" for oppression ....therefore he can utter hate speech.

What do you think Malema's intention is?
 
rietrot said:
Yes. But with the extreme torture there is a strong element of hate that should not be downplayed.

A lot of it is old people in the middle of nowhere who are easy targets and it is almost guaranteed that there's guns in the house that is not in use, not a threat to the criminals and locked up in a safe. That seems to me like the main target in some farm murders, to steal weapons to use in other crimes.
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The torture is visited upon black and Indian people as well. At least of the other races I have heard.
 
Neptuner said:
Whats the difference between you standing behind this fool and those individuals defending Malema?
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Oh I'm not standing behind the fool.
1. Firstly I like arguing.
2. I prefer truth to just reading headlines or watching edited videos

For this one it's simple, the actual context between what Malema said and what Renaldo said is this, Malema oh we've been singing this song forever and it's not about actually killing boer. Renaldo did a hyberpole where he said so what is the difference between me saying this and him saying that? Apparently a big one, as the majority deem it racist, so you see why it now makes a valid point. Also the entire video is 6 minutes long and he does actually say that isn't his views, but hey they tried with him and the whole Africa could vanish thing.
 
konfab said:
Renaldo was using those words as hyperbole to show why Shoot the Boer is wrong. The intention is to show why this type of speech is wrong. He was using them academically, if crude.

Malema's context is.... muh apartheid, and that Boer is a "metaphor" for oppression ....therefore he can utter hate speech.

What do you think Malema's intention is?
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Malema's intentions are just to get votes.
Hate speech is a leftist concept that we shouldn't entertain if we value/want free speech.

The real question is, is it incitement of violence. And I actually don't think so.
 
A Third Force said:
Selective editing to bury him. Here is the full video.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1803461871434973561
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such irony, in the full video he's making the point that there's no action taken against racist outbursts, and it may be the end of him because of his racist outburst in the very same video inserted for shock factor

in a rational world it would be recognized for what it is, alas, we live in a world where someone asking for a "mandjie" in clicks end up going viral on the internet for racism ... so yeah, I suspect he's political career might not last much longer
 
I cannot believe people are defending this Renaldo guy under the guise of freedom of speech, contradiction and context...

Are you trying to say that "Kill the boer, kill the farmer" carries the same derogatory connotation as calling a black person a "K"? Do you think calling a coloured a "bushie" or an Indian a "koelie" carries the same weight?

It doesn't and never will. How is that for context?

There are just some things you do not do. The DA will be best served by removing this guy from their ranks completely.
 
Hush9300 said:
Are you trying to say that "Kill the boer, kill the farmer" carries the same derogatory connotation as calling a black person a "K"?
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tell that to the survivors of farm attacks who watched their own parents and siblings get raped and tortured to death in front of them

GTFO with that kak seriously
 
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