The SA Politics Thread

[ToxicBunny]

He is now a body language expert, truly a man of many talents.

Carl wishes he was an amazingly astute human being.. Pity the cards he was dealt means he's just a fscking arsecreeping retard.

 

[TheChamp]

ANC Northern Cape opts to endorse Ramaphosa and all six deputy president candidates

The ANC in the Northern Cape has taken a measured approach on the highly contested race for the deputy presidency opting to endorse all six candidates in the running, ahead of the national conference in December.

www.timeslive.co.za

 

[Priapus]

ANC Northern Cape opts to endorse Ramaphosa and all six deputy president candidates

The ANC in the Northern Cape has taken a measured approach on the highly contested race for the deputy presidency opting to endorse all six candidates in the running, ahead of the national conference in December.

www.timeslive.co.za

Pretty much confirmed that Rama has the top position for a second term.

 

[TheChamp]

Pretty much confirmed that Rama has the top position for a second term.

I also think so, the fight is now on for the soul of the Deputy President.

 

[PrimeSteak]

Mmusi Maimane to run for president under new political party

Former DA leader Mmusi Maimane has quietly established a new party that will contest the 2024 general elections, with him running as its presidential candidate.

www.timeslive.co.za

LMAO. Ai Maimane.

The guy who's been ranting about the current political system and not believing in parties anymore, who insisted on "ANC, DA ayisafani", the guy who has a civil organisation for independents, has now created the exact thing he espoused to despise with the reasonable explanation of "No, guys, it's just an umbrella body!"

Last I checked if you create a party with yourself as leader and independents join said party, they're no longer independent...

P.S Paywalled.

 

[PrimeSteak]

Pretty much confirmed that Rama has the top position for a second term.

I also think so, the fight is now on for the soul of the Deputy President.

Yeah. Rama is safe as ANC leader (but not as SA President). KZN will once again stand alone against Rama. The battle will be for Deputy President and other positions like SG and the NEC spots...

So, we're safe to rule out a national ANC/EFF coalition in 2024 (ANC under Rama will most likely not work with Julius on a national scale, they rejected EFF last year, so I doubt they'll all of a sudden fall in love with them, although on provincial scale something can happen).

 

[PrimeSteak]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1571393503413911553

 

[TheChamp]

Yeah. Rama is safe as ANC leader (but not as SA President). KZN will once again stand alone against Rama. The battle will be for Deputy President and other positions like SG and the NEC spots...

So, we're safe to rule out a national ANC/EFF coalition in 2024 (ANC under Rama will most likely not work with Julius on a national scale, they rejected EFF last year, so I doubt they'll all of a sudden fall in love with them, although on provincial scale something can happen).

I don't know if Rama will not work with Julius, it's not about Rama it's about the ANC, on the other hand maybe Julius would not work with Rama because unlike the ANC, Julius is the EFF and the EFF is Julius.

I think it it will a depend on what the EFF puts on the table and the appetite of the ANC around that, there will obviously be more resistance to the EFF ways with Cyril at the helm but I have always fancied the chances of the EFF working with the ANC than the DA in a national election.

 

[PrimeSteak]

I don't know if Rama will not work with Julius, it's not about Rama it's about the ANC, on the other hand maybe Julius would not work with Rama because unlike the ANC, Julius is the EFF and the EFF is Julius.

CiC has made it clear if Rama remains ANC leader, they won't coalesce with ANC.

 

[PrimeSteak]

I think it it will a depend on what the EFF puts on the table and the appetite of the ANC around that, there will obviously be more resistance to the EFF ways with Cyril at the helm but I have always fancied the chances of the EFF working with the ANC than the DA in a national election.

While on pure ideology it makes more sense if EFF works with ANC, but it seems even the ANC under Rama think they're too radical.

EFF would most likely only help the UF like last year and then expect admiration and favours. And if the UF just snub them again, they'll just throw their toys out of their cot like always.

 

[wingnut771]

CiC has made it clear if Rama remains ANC leader, they won't coalesce with ANC.

This Julius? We all know we can't believe a word he says.

Malema once called Mashatile 'useless', so why is he being backed now, asks Lamola | News24

ANC deputy president hopeful Ronald Lamola says the ANC should never be guided by the likes of EFF leader Julius Malema.

www.news24.com

 

[wingnut771]

While on pure ideology it makes more sense if EFF works with ANC, but it seems even the ANC under Rama think they're too radical.

EFF would most likely only help the UF like last year and then expect admiration and favours. And if the UF just snub them again, they'll just throw their toys out of their cot like always.

If no one works with them then that's all they can do surely? It shouldn't affect anything.

 

[PrimeSteak]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1571145401054679044

Retardation aside. It wouldn't be surprising to see this happen after December.

 

[PrimeSteak]

ROAD TO ELECTIVE CONFERENCE: The ANC young guns and veterans vying for the top six in hotly contested party leadership race

ANC conference season is in full swing, with posters and videos of potential leaders making the rounds on social media. This time around, the party is spoilt for choice, with many of its members, both youthful and veteran, putting up their hands and seeking election to the top six jobs in the...

www.dailymaverick.co.za

 

[PrimeSteak]

This Julius? We all know we can't believe a word he says.

Malema once called Mashatile 'useless', so why is he being backed now, asks Lamola | News24

ANC deputy president hopeful Ronald Lamola says the ANC should never be guided by the likes of EFF leader Julius Malema.

www.news24.com

Yeah. But at least, he's been firm on that. He doesn't like Rama at all...

 

[wingnut771]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1571145401054679044

Retardation aside. It wouldn't be surprising to see this happen after December.

I would pay money to watch those meetings. Who would be the leader?

 

[wingnut771]

Yeah. But at least, he's been firm on that. He doesn't like Rama at all...

I will kill for Zuma.
Zuma must go.
Tea with Zuma.
Paul is a ****.
I like Paul now.

Yeah right. If there is something in it for him he will love Rama too.

 

[PrimeSteak]

I would pay money to watch those meetings. Who would be the leader?

The most revolutionary one...

 

[PrimeSteak]

I will kill for Zuma.
Zuma must go.
Tea with Zuma.
Paul is a ****.
I like Paul now.

Yeah right. If there is something in it for him he will love Rama too.

Good point. Guy flip-flops like a patty getting flipped on a braai.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1571484221436215296

I think it will be a re-hash of the ideas that the DA has already put forward, but there is nothing wrong with re-iterating the stuff given the current context. It's all about getting the message out through the media, so people who don't pay much attention to politics (not us in this thread) may get the message...