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TheChamp
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Joburg mayor talks the talk in Eldorado Park as new leadership team vows to bring changes | News24
After being sworn in on Monday, 10 new members of the mayoral committee, the speaker and the new mayor, Dada Morero, made their way to the Eldorado Park police station where protesting residents have camped out for the last 29 days.
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That is quite vague and could mean anything.
How do we not know that Mashaba is not referring to their time in the DA when they did engage?
Either way, Zwakele did bring up some good points about the DA in his resignation. He got the DA their highest ever voter percentage in KZN and I'm looking forward to seeing what the excuse will be for Francois Rodgers when the DA support in KZN declines under his leadership.
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Just going to bookmark this post so we can return to it at the next LGEs.
What will you say if the vote percentage increases for the DA?
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I will concede to being wrong if that happens but judging by the way things are going, I don't see it happening.
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The ANC's fall as well as the coalition governments masked many of the DA's shortcomings, they went from 15% to 12% between 2016 and 2021, that's with the ANC at it's weakest in KZN.
All the indications are that it's not looking good, but the DA polls will probably tell a different story.
All the indications are that it's not looking good, but the DA polls will probably tell a different story.
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People will defend the DA's polling but if I recall it predicted they would get an all time high under Maimane and we know how that went.
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So, the ASA is also desperate as they do this all the time?
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Sure they are, although you will admit that the members they usually unveil are more high profile than just being a councillor.
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What the DA is good at is PR, it seems they can pretty much spin anything into a positive, sure if they do go down in KZN they will find a way to project that as growth.
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Now that he’s a free man, when is his court case?
Zuma takes veiled swipe at judiciary, mocks political opponents in public address | News24
During his first public appearance after his 15-month sentence ended on Friday, former president Jacob Zuma made a veiled attack on the judiciary and mocked his political opponents.www.news24.com
Hasn't this always been his thing? He should come out already or forever SHUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP.
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As far as I'm concerned any parties polling will skew high since there is an inherent bias in their approach.
And yes the DA will always struggle in kzn when there is a party like the IFP in the mix...
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True, I remember loyalists of Steenhuisen were defending the decline last year because ASA came into the mix yet the VF+ coming into the mix was never seen as a defence of Maimane.
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"Mcwango rubbished Rodgers' statement, saying: "I think Helen [Zille] wrote that statement because I engaged with Francois before resigning. We had a cordial talk. The statement is silly, and I will not entertain that rubbish."
Who is lying? We also really cannot put it past Zille to have written the statement on Francois' behalf. She does have a clear tendency to get involved in DA provincial matters which are relevant nationally as Zwakele will know very well.
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Who is lying? We also really cannot put it past Zille to have written the statement on Francois' behalf. She does have a clear tendency to get involved in DA provincial matters which are relevant nationally as Zwakele will know very well.
'I will not entertain that rubbish': Zwakele Mncwango hits out at DA, confirms he has left party | News24
Zwakele Mncwango says he has left the Democratic Allliance.
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Alright, fair enough. But to be fair, the DA need to do all they can to win voters - as does any party (Except the ANC, they don't care about such things). So, I personally don't see an issue with DA (or ASA) doing these "reveals" - for the average voter, it makes literally no difference, at this point.
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I'm a DA voter and I have no idea who this Zwakele person is. DA voters vote for good governance, not for personalities.
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Yeah, it's widely accepted that IFP will lead the charge for the UF in KZN...
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100%, they have to do what they can to grow their party.
It does not matter now, Rodgers is not going to admit anything even if it is true, Mncwango should just move on but unfortunately in such instances everyone will want to have a last word so this is going to go on for a while, I feel it will be more damaging for the DA as a brand but they usually don't have the maturity to just let things go, especially when Zille is involved."Mcwango rubbished Rodgers' statement, saying: "I think Helen [Zille] wrote that statement because I engaged with Francois before resigning. We had a cordial talk. The statement is silly, and I will not entertain that rubbish."
Who is lying? We also really cannot put it past Zille to have written the statement on Francois' behalf. She does have a clear tendency to get involved in DA provincial matters which are relevant nationally as Zwakele will know very well.
'I will not entertain that rubbish': Zwakele Mncwango hits out at DA, confirms he has left party | News24
Zwakele Mncwango says he has left the Democratic Allliance.
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Cmon, it's been like this every time. "Nah, we've talked in the past, but I'll consult him again"
What happens a few days later? The guy miraculously became a new ASA leader.
uMngeni will be crucial for DA support in KZN. If Pappas keeps doing well, we just might see that the DA's support goes up in KZN.
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Likewise, no idea who they are and couldn't care less. I care about good governance. Something my province lacks.
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