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The_Right_Honourable_Brit said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1522476663489150979

As I said a few days ago, Action SA arent that far removed from the EFF on certain policy issues. They are certainly not a serious alternative for disgruntled DA voters.
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Because insourcing is a crime punishable by death? We all know the biggest reason for being against insourcing is that it removes bread from some tenderpreneur's mouth, the DA are obviously not keen on it because just like the ANC, their friends are benefiting immensely from such contracts.
 
Is it possible that ActionSA are basically communists, woketards and fascists like ANC & EFF ? - DA supporters seem really very afraid now.. LOL
 
The_Right_Honourable_Brit said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1522476663489150979

As I said a few days ago, Action SA arent that far removed from the EFF on certain policy issues.
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Isn't that what centrism is about? Agreeing with both sides from across the isle?

What's wrong with insourcing? It's the only logical way to stop tenderpreneurship and tenders altogether?
They are certainly not a serious alternative for disgruntled DA voters.
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Problem is they are... Petty griping in the tweet towards ASA only strengthens their argument and harms the DA...

This perpetual attack on ASA by the DA needs to stop. They need to work together. They're not that different ideologically...
 
surface said:
Is it possible that ActionSA are basically communists, woketards and fascists like ANC & EFF ? - DA supporters seem really very afraid now.. LOL
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All the initial signs point to a DA that wants to get the ANC removed so that they can get a chance to do what the ANC was doing all along, cadre deployment and enriching their cadres through government tenders.

Good on Mashaba for telling them straight that no such nonsense will be tolerated.
 
The continuous attacks on ASA is just the DA and its supporters getting a reality check, in their current state they are just not the alternative South Africans are looking to for the future, instead of sitting down addressing this they think attacking other opposition parties is the answer.
 
TheChamp said:
Because insourcing is a crime punishable by death? We all know the biggest reason for being against insourcing is that it removes bread from some tenderpreneur's mouth, the DA are obviously not keen on it because just like the ANC, their friends are benefiting immensely from such contracts.
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You obviously didn't read the article (no surprise there as you'd rather engage in your usual anti-DA diatribes which are usually nonsensical)

Prove that this statement is incorrect.

Mashaba was responding to Tshwane mayor Randall Williams’ comments last week in a council meeting that the municipality could not afford to in-source everybody as this would “blow up” the salary bill and leave little money for anything else.
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TheChamp said:
All the initial signs point to a DA that wants to get the ANC removed so that they can get a chance to do what the ANC was doing all along, cadre deployment and enriching their cadres through government tenders.

Good on Mashaba for telling them straight that no such nonsense will be tolerated.
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True but DA does it in a sophisticated manner. :ROFL: :ROFL:
 
The_Right_Honourable_Brit said:
You obviously didn't read the article (no surprise there as you'd rather engage in your usual anti-DA diatribes which are usually nonsensical)

Prove that this statement is incorrect.
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Oh I did, I would be super impressed if the tenders for security or cleaning services are cheaper when outsourced, I think the Mayor is spinning the expected tale that someone who is cornered would.
 
The_Right_Honourable_Brit said:
You obviously didn't read the article (no surprise there as you'd rather engage in your usual anti-DA diatribes which are usually nonsensical)

Prove that this statement is incorrect.
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Regardless, it's part of the agreement the DA signed.

If the DA refuses or turns around on insourcing, then I would say it's fair game for ASA to break ties? Since the DA would be breaking the agreement?

Look I'm a DA supporter myself, but think a bit here my guy.
 
TheChamp said:
The continuous attacks on ASA is just the DA and its supporters getting a reality check, in their current state they are just not the alternative South Africans are looking to for the future, instead of sitting down addressing this they think attacking other opposition parties is the answer.
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I think it's more the Zille "faction" supporters in the DA that agree with this vehement assault on ASA.

I mean I'm a DA supporter myself and I don't see ASA as an enemy but as a potential ally, I think there are many more DA supporters that share my sentiment.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1522106668577927169
Check this out, not even Steenhuisen himself joined in on the attack on ASA, only thanked the residents and the DA branch and that's it.

This whole battle between ASA and DA is because of Zille and Mashaba's absolute hatred for each other...
 
www.news24.com

ANALYSIS | Roger Southall: Former SA President predicts end of ANC and history is on his side | News24

It is still early to predict the death of the ANC. Yet all the signs of terminal disease are there, writes Roger Southall.
www.news24.com www.news24.com

Seems like Motlanthe also sees the ANC falling in 2024...

Former South African president Kgalema Motlanthe, one of the saner voices in the ruling African National Congress (ANC), has recently given voice to heresy. He has said that the time of the ANC in power is coming to an end. The party that has dominated South African politics since 1994, winning five successive general elections, is confronting a crisis of its own making. This results from poor governance and rampant corruption. A steady decline in support raises the real prospect of gaining less than 50% in the next general election in 2024.

As Motlanthe points out, South African politics is in a state of flux which must necessarily result in a realignment of political forces.
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www.businesslive.co.za

No dominant role for ANC in future, says Kgalema Motlanthe

Former ANC secretary-general says leading parties still to emerge
www.businesslive.co.za www.businesslive.co.za
 
PrimeSteak said:
www.dailymaverick.co.za

Under fire DA chief John Steenhuisen says Ukraine visit bankrolled by private funders

John Steenhuisen has received flack from the public, political analysts and commentators for travelling to Ukraine on a fact-finding mission.
www.dailymaverick.co.za www.dailymaverick.co.za
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Even if it is party's money (which it is not), it is up to him & donors to decide what they want to do tbh.

Although, I didn't know John was fixing rest of africa's issues. A true world leader world has not seen since Abraham lincoln.
“I have travelled to Ghana, Mozambique and Somaliland and next month will be in Kenya and the following month in Somaliland again
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surface said:
Although, I didn't know John was fixing rest of africa's issues. A true world leader world has not seen since Abraham lincoln.
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“I have travelled to Ghana, Mozambique and Somaliland and next month will be in Kenya and the following month in Somaliland again. Additionally, I have met, and participated in several seminars on a variety of challenges facing the continent with my counterparts in Africa including Zambian president Hakainde Hichilema, Zimbabwean opposition party leader Nelson Chamisa, Namibia’s Democratic Movement president McHenry Venaani and National Unity Platform leader Bobi Wine,” he said.
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The funny thing is tho, this destroys the argument that he/DA supposedly doesn't care about issues in Africa... Since he has travelled and will travel around the continent. So that "what about Africa" meme is dead now tbh.
 
PrimeSteak said:
The funny thing is tho, this destroys the argument that he supposedly doesn't care about issues in Africa... Since he has travelled and will travel around the continent. So that "what about Africa" meme is dead now tbh.
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I travelled to many countries as well. On my own money - didn't have to beg party donors. I think I almost solved Greek debt crisis
 
surface said:
I travelled to many countries as well. On my own money - didn't have to beg party donors. I think I almost solved Greek debt crisis
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Am happy for you, heard you deposed Erdogan and you're now eternal President of Turkey. Also heard you're involved in talks with Putin to try and find that guy from Perth you obsess over...
 
surface said:
Even if it is party's money (which it is not), it is up to him & donors to decide what they want to do tbh.

Although, I didn't know John was fixing rest of africa's issues. A true world leader world has not seen since Abraham lincoln.
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In terms of the funding, I agree... if it was party money or donor money, its up to them how they spend it really... Public money was not spent on his trip, and therefore the line of enquiry ultimately stops in my opinion.

As for his travels around Africa, he would be horribly remiss if he hadn't done that and built strong relationships with all the opposition in the various African countries.
 
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