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wingnut771 said:
What is wrong with Zilles public image?
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The big problem with Zille is many times she can be right, but her execution is piss poor tbh. And of course alienates people.

Like the other time with the Blacklist. Instead of just saying we have x amount of black higher-ups (or nothing at all), she went and made a list of all the reps by name. Which is just weird tbh.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Don't get me wrong, the straight talk is refreshing at times, but there are times when I just put my head in my hands and go "Helen, you retard, you could have been way more tactful and ultimately said the same thing without pissing off almost everyone"
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Precisely.
 
PrimeSteak said:
The big problem with Zille is many times she can be right, but her execution is piss poor tbh. And of course alienates people.

Like the other time with the Blacklist. Instead of just saying we have x amount of black higher-ups (or nothing at all), she went and made a list of all the reps by name. Which is just weird tbh.
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Like I asked earlier, is that a good enough reason to throw the baby out with the bath water?
 
Zille is who she is, kind of why I do and don't like her at the same time and sometimes rooting for her, others cringing. But that's the journalist coming out in her.
 
PrimeSteak said:
The big problem with Zille is many times she can be right, but her execution is piss poor tbh. And of course alienates people.

Like the other time with the Blacklist. Instead of just saying we have x amount of black higher-ups (or nothing at all), she went and made a list of all the reps by name. Which is just weird tbh.
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What I also don't like about her is that she is a hypocrite and she has a big problem in seeing a DA succeed when she isn't the one leading it, all the righteousness she has suddenly found within herself was not there when she was the leader of the party, she chose what she said carefully, just as it is expected from someone of her stature.

I wouldn't have a problem if she was always like this but we all know she wasn't.
 
If this poll is to be believed as credible, how is it that Zille is damaging the party.

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Turning point: Diverse DA now the biggest political party in urban South Africa

The article below was published on Businesslive earlier today. Last month, the Social Research Foundation (SRF) released the findings of its latest research into South Africa’s political landscape. The poll was conducted among a sample of 3 204 randomly selected and representative registered...
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TheChamp said:
What I also don't like about her is that she is a hypocrite and she has a big problem in seeing a DA succeed when she isn't the one leading it, all the righteousness she has suddenly found within herself was not there when she was the leader of the party, she chose what she said carefully, just as it is expected from someone of her stature.

I wouldn't have a problem if she was always like this but we all know she wasn't.
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I think that's just a common human nature thing. Some people want the fame and attention and despise it when others steal it from them. Sometimes going as far as to sabotage themselves in the process...
 
 
sefeddt said:
Zille is who she is, kind of why I do and don't like her at the same time and sometimes rooting for her, others cringing. But that's the journalist coming out in her.
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Well she did manage to suppress who she was all those years when she was leading the DA, she certainly never told all the black people who were dancing to Vulindlela with her that colonialism was good for them, she waited until she was no longer the leader to say all the things she has always wanted to say but never said, that means she is very aware of the harm her words brings to the party, she was self aware enough not to harm the party when she was leading it.

She is a cunning and devious woman.
 
 
sefeddt said:
If this poll is to be believed as credible, how is it that Zille is damaging the party.

www.da.org.za

Turning point: Diverse DA now the biggest political party in urban South Africa

The article below was published on Businesslive earlier today. Last month, the Social Research Foundation (SRF) released the findings of its latest research into South Africa’s political landscape. The poll was conducted among a sample of 3 204 randomly selected and representative registered...
www.da.org.za
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Not sure I'd put too much stock in internal polls.
The DA lost a lot of support following the fallout with Mashaba and a lot of that can be attributed to Zille.
 
Incipium said:
I think that's just a common human nature thing. Some people want the fame and attention and despise it when others steal it from them. Sometimes going as far as to sabotage themselves in the process...
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Which she was bright enough not to do when she was leading the party, that's my problem, I would understand if she has always had a history of putting her foot in it.
 
TheChamp said:
See what I am talking about? You just called me a troll but you are touched in your heart when I call you a crybaby?
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Okay, buddy. You do you. I'm done engaging with you - as we will never agree.
 
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