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From commentary on a few comparisons on YouTube between the Ignis and Swift it seems the Indians prefer the Ignis due to a better build quality.
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The Suzuki Swift & Dzire Thread
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FiestaST
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A key difference between the 2 is the looks.
Do you like the quirky looks of the Ignis or would you prefer the look of a "safe" design B-segment hatchback?
Do you need the extra space & better 5 person seat arrangement the Swift offers?
Do you like the quirky looks of the Ignis or would you prefer the look of a "safe" design B-segment hatchback?
Do you need the extra space & better 5 person seat arrangement the Swift offers?
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The proof of the pudding will lie in the sales.
It is a basic form of getting there, cheaply, comfortably and reliably.
No lipstick, eye shadow or boob lift... no larney infotainment, auto lights on, auto wiper on, lane change warning and many air bags.
It is fun to drive, serious driving dynamics and extremely high scoring on low running costs.
One up from the Kwid and Datsun Go.
It is a basic form of getting there, cheaply, comfortably and reliably.
No lipstick, eye shadow or boob lift... no larney infotainment, auto lights on, auto wiper on, lane change warning and many air bags.
It is fun to drive, serious driving dynamics and extremely high scoring on low running costs.
One up from the Kwid and Datsun Go.
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Suzuki Swift (2018) Specs & Price
Suzuki has introduced the next-generation Swift to South Africa. Here's how much the hatchback costs and what features it has. Will it be able to compete in the popular B-segment?
The Suzuki Swift has been a good seller for the brand locally and hopes are that the third generation model can pull off a repeat performance. “The all-new Swift has big shoes to fill. It follows on two generations of our most popular model, which had sold over 19 000 units to date. In fact, the previous Swift was so popular that it reached its peak sales volume of 2 966 units in 2017, the last full year in which it was sold.” says André Venter, divisional manager for sales and marketing at Suzuki Auto South Africa. Globally, over 6 million units have been sold.
What's New?
The 2018 Suzuki Swift is characterised by a new fresh look and an all-new platform. Physically it is 10 mm shorter but 40 mm wider. The front track is 40 mm wider, while the rear is 35 mm. The entire wheelbase has been extended by 20 mm to 2 450 mm, making it almost as long as the Suzuki Ciaz sedan. These dimension changes mean interior space has been increased and Suzuki claims that rear passengers now have a bit more headroom in the back. Front passengers benefit from more shoulder room and everyone sits a little lower down, giving it a sportier feel.
One of the criticisms of past Swifts was the small boot. This has been increased to 268 litres (58 litre increase) and the seats fold down in a 60/40 split. One of the biggest benefits of this all-new platform is weight reduction and Suzuki claims its new Swift is 95 kg lighter than the outgoing model.
Engines
The Suzuki Swift is powered by the same 1.2-litre four-cylinder petrol engine as the outgoing car. It has built a reputation of punch and fuel consumption, and we quite like it. On paper, it produces 61 kW and 113 Nm, fuel consumption is rated at 4.9 L/100 km. It has a fuel tank capacity of 37 litres. You have the choice of either a five-speed manual gearbox or an Automated Manual Gearbox (AMT). An AMT behaves much like a manual gearbox except the operation of the clutch is controlled by the vehicle.
Features
Inside the new Suzuki Swift, you'll find a sporty steering wheel, driver-focused speedometer/rev counter, while GL specific models feature chrome accents and chronograph-design to the driving cluster. Every Suzuki Swift comes with air conditioning, front/rear electric windows, power steering and remote central locking. There's also a tilt-adjustable (rake) steering wheel and trip computer.
GL models feature an audio system with Bluetooth/USB connectivity, audio controls on the steering wheel and electrically adjustable side view mirrors. The GL model also throws in colour-coded side mirrors, front fog lamps, and a rear luggage cover.
In terms of safety, all Swift models offer two airbags, ABS brakes with electronic brake force distribution (EBD) and ISOFIX seat anchors.
Suzuki Swift (2018) Price in South Africa
The new Suzuki Swift is available in six colours and is sold with a 5-year / 200 000 km mechanical warranty and a 2-year / 30 000 km service plan.
Suzuki Swift 1.2 GA Manual R159 900
Suzuki Swift 1.2 GL Manual R175 900
Suzuki Swift 1.2 GL AMT R189 900
https://www.cars.co.za/motoring_news/suzuki-swift-2018-specs--price/45104/
Suzuki has introduced the next-generation Swift to South Africa. Here's how much the hatchback costs and what features it has. Will it be able to compete in the popular B-segment?
The Suzuki Swift has been a good seller for the brand locally and hopes are that the third generation model can pull off a repeat performance. “The all-new Swift has big shoes to fill. It follows on two generations of our most popular model, which had sold over 19 000 units to date. In fact, the previous Swift was so popular that it reached its peak sales volume of 2 966 units in 2017, the last full year in which it was sold.” says André Venter, divisional manager for sales and marketing at Suzuki Auto South Africa. Globally, over 6 million units have been sold.
What's New?
The 2018 Suzuki Swift is characterised by a new fresh look and an all-new platform. Physically it is 10 mm shorter but 40 mm wider. The front track is 40 mm wider, while the rear is 35 mm. The entire wheelbase has been extended by 20 mm to 2 450 mm, making it almost as long as the Suzuki Ciaz sedan. These dimension changes mean interior space has been increased and Suzuki claims that rear passengers now have a bit more headroom in the back. Front passengers benefit from more shoulder room and everyone sits a little lower down, giving it a sportier feel.
One of the criticisms of past Swifts was the small boot. This has been increased to 268 litres (58 litre increase) and the seats fold down in a 60/40 split. One of the biggest benefits of this all-new platform is weight reduction and Suzuki claims its new Swift is 95 kg lighter than the outgoing model.
Engines
The Suzuki Swift is powered by the same 1.2-litre four-cylinder petrol engine as the outgoing car. It has built a reputation of punch and fuel consumption, and we quite like it. On paper, it produces 61 kW and 113 Nm, fuel consumption is rated at 4.9 L/100 km. It has a fuel tank capacity of 37 litres. You have the choice of either a five-speed manual gearbox or an Automated Manual Gearbox (AMT). An AMT behaves much like a manual gearbox except the operation of the clutch is controlled by the vehicle.
Features
Inside the new Suzuki Swift, you'll find a sporty steering wheel, driver-focused speedometer/rev counter, while GL specific models feature chrome accents and chronograph-design to the driving cluster. Every Suzuki Swift comes with air conditioning, front/rear electric windows, power steering and remote central locking. There's also a tilt-adjustable (rake) steering wheel and trip computer.
GL models feature an audio system with Bluetooth/USB connectivity, audio controls on the steering wheel and electrically adjustable side view mirrors. The GL model also throws in colour-coded side mirrors, front fog lamps, and a rear luggage cover.
In terms of safety, all Swift models offer two airbags, ABS brakes with electronic brake force distribution (EBD) and ISOFIX seat anchors.
Suzuki Swift (2018) Price in South Africa
The new Suzuki Swift is available in six colours and is sold with a 5-year / 200 000 km mechanical warranty and a 2-year / 30 000 km service plan.
Suzuki Swift 1.2 GA Manual R159 900
Suzuki Swift 1.2 GL Manual R175 900
Suzuki Swift 1.2 GL AMT R189 900
https://www.cars.co.za/motoring_news/suzuki-swift-2018-specs--price/45104/
FiestaST
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AutoTrader pre-launch road test
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FiestaST
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FiestaST
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"All the right feels":
FiestaST
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What’s your Dzire? Suzuki Swift sedan now a stand-alone model range in SA
Suzuki has introduced an all-new Dzire as a stand-alone model with new styling, a new platform and offering even "more value than before".
The Dzire was originally developed alongside the Suzuki Swift to offer a more family-orientated sedan version of the popular hatchback. It has since evolved to serve a large and distinctive market for young families and has become one of the most popular B-segment sedans in the world.
The Suzuki Dzire is available in three model derivatives and in seven colours.
Family-friendly cabin
As part of its new status as a separate model range in the Suzuki stable, the new Dzire has a unique dashboard design that emphasises style and usability. It is fitted with silver accents throughout the dashboard and air vents that mimic the design of the front grille.
In front of the driver there is a new instrument cluster, with clearly readable instrumentation and a multi-information display. The GL-specification level adds a tachometer, additional silver accents and premium white illumination.
All Dzire models are equipped with air conditioning, front and rear electric windows, airbags for the driver and front passenger, a tilt-adjustable steering column, a security alarm and immobiliser and ISOFIX anchor points for rear-fitted child seats.
The GL-specification level adds rear air vents and an additional 12V socket, a Suzuki audio system with Bluetooth and USB connectivity, front foglights, colour-coded, electrically adjustable side mirrors and steering-mounted audio controls. This specification level is also fitted with Suzuki’s high-grade upholstery with rear foldable armrest with integrated cup holders.
Space abounds
Like its sibling, the Suzuki Swift, the Dzire is built on Suzuki’s new HEARTECT platform. Suzuki said: "This platform not only increases passive and dynamic safety and lowers weight, but it increases interior cabin space thanks to a longer wheelbase and wider cabin.
In the Dzire, the increase in space is focused on the rear passengers. Suzuki has increased the space between the front and rear seats by a massive 55mm and increased shoulder width for rear passengers by 15mm. In the front, the occupants now have 10mm of additional shoulder width.
The new Dzire also offers significantly more boot space than its predecessor. The sedan has 378 litres of boot space, an increase of 78 litres or 26% more than before.
Frugal K12M engine
The Dzire is fitted with the same K12M engine that powers the all-new Swift. In the Dzire, the 1.2 litre engine delivers 61kW/113Nm.
Power is delivered to the front wheels via a five-speed manual gearbox with new convergent shifting system for smoother, more secure shifts or the automated manual gearbox (AMT).
The AMT gearbox uses an automatically actuating clutch and is fitted with a ‘creep’ function to improve low speed comfort, like in slow moving traffic or when parking.
The Dzire, thanks to the new HEARTECT platform, weighs a massive 75kg less than its predecessor at 890 kg. The lower weight benefits overall fuel consumption, which has been tested at 4.9 litres/100km for both the manual and automated manual models in a combined driving cycle.
Prices
Suzuki Dzire 1.2 GA Manual
Suzuki Dzire 1.2 GL Manual
Suzuki Dzire 1.2 GL AMT
All models are sold with Suzuki’s acclaimed 5-year or 200 000 km mechanical warranty and a 2-year or 30 000 km service plan.
https://www.wheels24.co.za/NewModel...-now-a-stand-alone-model-range-in-sa-20180607
Suzuki has introduced an all-new Dzire as a stand-alone model with new styling, a new platform and offering even "more value than before".
The Dzire was originally developed alongside the Suzuki Swift to offer a more family-orientated sedan version of the popular hatchback. It has since evolved to serve a large and distinctive market for young families and has become one of the most popular B-segment sedans in the world.
The Suzuki Dzire is available in three model derivatives and in seven colours.
Family-friendly cabin
As part of its new status as a separate model range in the Suzuki stable, the new Dzire has a unique dashboard design that emphasises style and usability. It is fitted with silver accents throughout the dashboard and air vents that mimic the design of the front grille.
In front of the driver there is a new instrument cluster, with clearly readable instrumentation and a multi-information display. The GL-specification level adds a tachometer, additional silver accents and premium white illumination.
All Dzire models are equipped with air conditioning, front and rear electric windows, airbags for the driver and front passenger, a tilt-adjustable steering column, a security alarm and immobiliser and ISOFIX anchor points for rear-fitted child seats.
The GL-specification level adds rear air vents and an additional 12V socket, a Suzuki audio system with Bluetooth and USB connectivity, front foglights, colour-coded, electrically adjustable side mirrors and steering-mounted audio controls. This specification level is also fitted with Suzuki’s high-grade upholstery with rear foldable armrest with integrated cup holders.
Space abounds
Like its sibling, the Suzuki Swift, the Dzire is built on Suzuki’s new HEARTECT platform. Suzuki said: "This platform not only increases passive and dynamic safety and lowers weight, but it increases interior cabin space thanks to a longer wheelbase and wider cabin.
In the Dzire, the increase in space is focused on the rear passengers. Suzuki has increased the space between the front and rear seats by a massive 55mm and increased shoulder width for rear passengers by 15mm. In the front, the occupants now have 10mm of additional shoulder width.
The new Dzire also offers significantly more boot space than its predecessor. The sedan has 378 litres of boot space, an increase of 78 litres or 26% more than before.
Frugal K12M engine
The Dzire is fitted with the same K12M engine that powers the all-new Swift. In the Dzire, the 1.2 litre engine delivers 61kW/113Nm.
Power is delivered to the front wheels via a five-speed manual gearbox with new convergent shifting system for smoother, more secure shifts or the automated manual gearbox (AMT).
The AMT gearbox uses an automatically actuating clutch and is fitted with a ‘creep’ function to improve low speed comfort, like in slow moving traffic or when parking.
The Dzire, thanks to the new HEARTECT platform, weighs a massive 75kg less than its predecessor at 890 kg. The lower weight benefits overall fuel consumption, which has been tested at 4.9 litres/100km for both the manual and automated manual models in a combined driving cycle.
Prices
Suzuki Dzire 1.2 GA Manual
Suzuki Dzire 1.2 GL Manual
Suzuki Dzire 1.2 GL AMT
All models are sold with Suzuki’s acclaimed 5-year or 200 000 km mechanical warranty and a 2-year or 30 000 km service plan.
https://www.wheels24.co.za/NewModel...-now-a-stand-alone-model-range-in-sa-20180607
TheChamp
Honorary Master
The sedan looks better than the hatch.
FiestaST
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TheChamp
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Indeed i do, will have to see it in metal but it looks far better than the previous one.
FiestaST
Honorary Master
Waiting some clever (Cape Town) lad that buys a new "Dzire" & opts in for the plate "DZIRE-WP".
FiestaST
Honorary Master
DRIVEN: Suzuki Dzire 1,2 GL 5MT
DURBAN – So, you’re looking for your first new car. After realising that your dream wheels are way beyond your means and any attempt to pursue them would surely lead to financial ruin, you get realistic. The vehicle you’re searching for needs to be reliable and fuel efficient, offer enough space for the odd weekend away and priced at or below your R180 000 budget. It would help if it looks youthful and is fun to drive, too. Well, let me introduce you to the new Suzuki Dzire (and Swift) range…
The looks
The previous Swift Dzire looked decidedly awkward from the rear, with the boot section appearing little more than an afterthought. This is not the case with the new sedan, which features a far more cohesive design that is far enough removed from the hatchback (which we earlier sampled in India) to justify its shedding of the Swift nameplate. Based on the Japanese brand’s new Heartect platform that also underpins the likes of the Baleno and Ignis, the vehicle is actually slightly shorter (by 10 mm) than before, although its width has increased by 40 mm, resulting in a sportier stance and increased interior space. Still, the narrow wheels (165/80 R14 or 185/65 R15) are a reminder that this car plays in the budget category as they don’t quite fill the arches.
On the inside, fit and finish is on par with that of competitors, with virtually no soft plastics to be found. Suzuki decided against a touchscreen infotainment system, but at least the tactile switch gear is easy to locate on the move. Bluetooth connectivity is standard, with satellite controls sited on the steering wheel.
It’s spacious
An advantage of the square glasshouse with its upright windscreen is that the interior feels spacious for a car in this segment. Rear legroom is more than adequate, even for a six-footer such as myself, and the boot has a claimed 378 litres (26% more than before) of luggage space that should be enough for the obligatory road trip.
How does it go?
Sliding behind the wheel, it’s fairly easy to get comfortable, although the steering column has rake adjustment only (I would also have preferred the figure-hugging seats to be sited a little lower). All models in the Swift and Dzire ranges are powered by the same 61 kW/113 N.m 1,2-litre naturally aspirated engine driving the front wheels through either a five-speed manual (as in our test unit) or automated manual transmission.
As the Dzire weighs a mere 890 kg, performance is quite sprightly in the short lower gears, with the front wheels serving up a cheeky chirp on pullaway, confirming that no traction control or ESC programme is fitted. Additional safety concerns are covered by ABS and driver and passenger airbags.
However, this performance dulls with speed and although the Dzire easily cruises at the national speed limit (with some wind noise), I suspect that overtaking at high altitudes with a fully loaded vehicle may prove tricky. The trade-off, of course, is a potentially impressive fuel consumption. Indeed, we managed an indicated 5,9 L/100 km during our spirited test drive, suggesting that the claim of 4,9 L/100 km may just be achievable.
Handling
It’s clear the Suzuki is set up for comfort as the suspension system soaks up most road imperfections with ease. The negative side of this soft suspension is that there is generally plenty of body roll in the bends and the nose quickly pushes wide when the driver is in a hurry. Still, this is to be expected in the budget segment and is not a problem during day-to-day motoring. If you want a sportier Suzuki, then you’ll have to wait for the Swift Sport, which is due to touch down on local soil in the first quarter of 2019.
Summary
Both the Swift hatch and Dzire sedan ranges represent a compelling value-for-money proposition, as they offer fuss-free, honest motoring complete with a two-year/30 000 km service plan and five-year/200 00 km warranty. In short, I have no trouble recommending either the Swift or the Dzire, as each does exactly what it says on the tin.
Author: Nicol Louw
Model:Suzuki Dzire 1,2 GL 5MT
Price:R177 900
Engine:1,2-litre, 4-cylinder, petrol
Power:61 kW at 6 000 r/min
Torque:113 N.m at 4 200 r/min
0-100 km/h:11,7 sec
Top Speed:175 km/h
Fuel Consumption:4,9 L/100 km
CO2:n/a
Transmission:5-spd manual
Maintenance Plan:2-year/30 000 km service plan
http://www.carmag.co.za/car-reviews/driving-impressions/driven-suzuki-dzire-12-gl-5mt/
DURBAN – So, you’re looking for your first new car. After realising that your dream wheels are way beyond your means and any attempt to pursue them would surely lead to financial ruin, you get realistic. The vehicle you’re searching for needs to be reliable and fuel efficient, offer enough space for the odd weekend away and priced at or below your R180 000 budget. It would help if it looks youthful and is fun to drive, too. Well, let me introduce you to the new Suzuki Dzire (and Swift) range…
The looks
The previous Swift Dzire looked decidedly awkward from the rear, with the boot section appearing little more than an afterthought. This is not the case with the new sedan, which features a far more cohesive design that is far enough removed from the hatchback (which we earlier sampled in India) to justify its shedding of the Swift nameplate. Based on the Japanese brand’s new Heartect platform that also underpins the likes of the Baleno and Ignis, the vehicle is actually slightly shorter (by 10 mm) than before, although its width has increased by 40 mm, resulting in a sportier stance and increased interior space. Still, the narrow wheels (165/80 R14 or 185/65 R15) are a reminder that this car plays in the budget category as they don’t quite fill the arches.
On the inside, fit and finish is on par with that of competitors, with virtually no soft plastics to be found. Suzuki decided against a touchscreen infotainment system, but at least the tactile switch gear is easy to locate on the move. Bluetooth connectivity is standard, with satellite controls sited on the steering wheel.
It’s spacious
An advantage of the square glasshouse with its upright windscreen is that the interior feels spacious for a car in this segment. Rear legroom is more than adequate, even for a six-footer such as myself, and the boot has a claimed 378 litres (26% more than before) of luggage space that should be enough for the obligatory road trip.
How does it go?
Sliding behind the wheel, it’s fairly easy to get comfortable, although the steering column has rake adjustment only (I would also have preferred the figure-hugging seats to be sited a little lower). All models in the Swift and Dzire ranges are powered by the same 61 kW/113 N.m 1,2-litre naturally aspirated engine driving the front wheels through either a five-speed manual (as in our test unit) or automated manual transmission.
As the Dzire weighs a mere 890 kg, performance is quite sprightly in the short lower gears, with the front wheels serving up a cheeky chirp on pullaway, confirming that no traction control or ESC programme is fitted. Additional safety concerns are covered by ABS and driver and passenger airbags.
However, this performance dulls with speed and although the Dzire easily cruises at the national speed limit (with some wind noise), I suspect that overtaking at high altitudes with a fully loaded vehicle may prove tricky. The trade-off, of course, is a potentially impressive fuel consumption. Indeed, we managed an indicated 5,9 L/100 km during our spirited test drive, suggesting that the claim of 4,9 L/100 km may just be achievable.
Handling
It’s clear the Suzuki is set up for comfort as the suspension system soaks up most road imperfections with ease. The negative side of this soft suspension is that there is generally plenty of body roll in the bends and the nose quickly pushes wide when the driver is in a hurry. Still, this is to be expected in the budget segment and is not a problem during day-to-day motoring. If you want a sportier Suzuki, then you’ll have to wait for the Swift Sport, which is due to touch down on local soil in the first quarter of 2019.
Summary
Both the Swift hatch and Dzire sedan ranges represent a compelling value-for-money proposition, as they offer fuss-free, honest motoring complete with a two-year/30 000 km service plan and five-year/200 00 km warranty. In short, I have no trouble recommending either the Swift or the Dzire, as each does exactly what it says on the tin.
Author: Nicol Louw
Model:Suzuki Dzire 1,2 GL 5MT
Price:R177 900
Engine:1,2-litre, 4-cylinder, petrol
Power:61 kW at 6 000 r/min
Torque:113 N.m at 4 200 r/min
0-100 km/h:11,7 sec
Top Speed:175 km/h
Fuel Consumption:4,9 L/100 km
CO2:n/a
Transmission:5-spd manual
Maintenance Plan:2-year/30 000 km service plan
http://www.carmag.co.za/car-reviews/driving-impressions/driven-suzuki-dzire-12-gl-5mt/
Forgive my ignorance, but what is wrong with the AMT ? Reason for asking is I was thinking of buying the new Ignis.
Gtx Gaming
Gtx Gaming
Its not really an "automatic", its manual gearbox with device changing gears for you. So when it needs to shift you need let your foot off the petrol pedal so it can shift up for you etc. Its not as smooth as normal automatic.
Thanks, good info! Will go in search of a proper auto.
The previous gen had a proper Auto, see if you can find the GLS spec.