The Syrian Conflict Thread

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snoopdoggydog said:
Beheaded in front of children, Assad's thugs are dragged to their doom and butchered like animals in some of the most brutal scenes to emerge from Syria's civil war

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2420263/As-rebels-behead-Assads-thugs-children-question-really-sides-Syrias-bloodbath.html

this will make lightscribe happy because he won't have to read but just look at the pictures
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If my friends, family and kin were gassed, don't you think I would do the same to those I perceive were responsible for it?

It's pity Assad and his family were not amongst those.

War is just so ugly and criminal!
 
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Secretary of State John Kerry mixed messages Tuesday against a proposed congressional prohibition on the use of American ground forces in Syria, saying the war-torn country could “implode” and that, if so, U.S. troops would be needed to prevent chemical weapons from falling into the hands of terrorist groups.
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I watched it live, he said he is not seeking boots on the ground regarding the civil war. War on terror is back when assad falls, so no boots during the civil war, boots to fight the terrorists though he never ruled out.
 
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Lightscribe said:
And saddam would have hugged and loved you.
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And America's hard line foreign policy has done wonders? But by all means, flog that horse into the ground.

As for that link;

Senator Rick Santorum's announcement last week of over 500 weapons of mass destruction found in Iraq went largely ignored by the mainstream media.
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The same 500 weapons that were found in disused facilities and were found to be badly corroded and no longer of military value?

Why post that link when I've already supplied evidence that the wars two most prominent figures - Rumsfeld & Powell - have admitted to badly misjudging & overstating the situation and even straight out lying? Why post that link when America's #1 informant with regards to WMDs admitted to cooking up a story? Why post that link when the German intelligence, who were the ones that brought the informant to America's attention, were able to deduce that he was lying and thus refused to support the war?
 
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Staggy i don't think lightscribe knows who curveball is and what he has said to the media.

Block out the obvious lies and defend your belief!!!! that is how it works around here :D.
 
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DarkSpectre said:
This equation shows why it's really a bad idea for USA to get involved in the Syrian civil war:

USA helps the rebels = USA helps Al-Qaeda.
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There are different rebel factors,the Free Syria Army is not affiliated with Al-Qaeda it would seem from reports they are fighting them also.
 
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thestaggy said:
Why post that link when I've already supplied evidence that the wars two most prominent figures - Rumsfeld & Powell - have admitted to badly misjudging & overstating the situation and even straight out lying? Why post that link when America's #1 informant with regards to WMDs admitted to cooking up a story? Why post that link when the German intelligence, who were the ones that brought the informant to America's attention, were able to deduce that he was lying and thus refused to support the war?
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Lightscribe tends to have a set of links that he whores out on the forum constantly,they seem to always be the same links lol its just a standard protocol from him when he heard the words "NO Iraq WOMD" coming from the forum,he did not really bother reading your argument is what I'm betting,hopefully he will now.;)
 
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US Seeks Wide Support for Syria Arms Deal

Secretary of State John Kerry is briefing some of the United States' closest allies and working out details on how to put an end to Syria's chemical weapons program.

A day after visiting Israeli leaders, Kerry was due to meet Monday with top officials from France, Britain, Turkey and Saudi Arabia, who had pressed for military strikes on Syria after the Aug. 21 poison gas attack that killed hundreds.

U.S. and Russian officials reached an ambitious agreement over the weekend calling for an inventory of Syria's chemical weapons program within a week, with the program eradicated by mid-2014.

The U.N. resolution under discussion Monday would detail how Syria can secure and destroy its stockpile. The U.N.'s chief weapons inspector turned over his team's report on the August attack on Sunday.


Source : Sapa-AP /pk
Date : 16 Sep 2013 09:41
 
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First thing that will happen when Assad is gone, MacD's will pop up all over the place and Monsanto will force them to use GMO seeds.
 
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thestaggy said:
And America's hard line foreign policy has done wonders? But by all means, flog that horse into the ground.
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Mmm yes, let's play nice with him. As OrbitalDawn says, "Still think he wasn't that bad?"

As for that link;

The same 500 weapons that were found in disused facilities and were found to be badly corroded and no longer of military value?
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Yes, with the rest of the info I posted, in various posts, dealing with many different sources of info, regarding many different issues relating to his WMD, it shows that Saddam had WMD, used WMD, and later stated that he planned to use nuclear WMD. Disprove the bolded statement. Waffling about the state of some of the WMD, or curveball, does not detract from the fact, that he had WMD, used WMD and planned to use nuclear WMD.

For Killa, or anyone else to state that he did not have WMD, is again blatantly lying, in an effort to parrot the Russian "useful idiot" propaganda.

Why post that link when I've already supplied evidence that the wars two most prominent figures - Rumsfeld & Powell - have admitted to badly misjudging & overstating the situation and even straight out lying? Why post that link when America's #1 informant with regards to WMDs admitted to cooking up a story? Why post that link when the German intelligence, who were the ones that brought the informant to America's attention, were able to deduce that he was lying and thus refused to support the war?
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See above. Saddam had WMD, used WMD, then later stated, that he planned to use nuclear WMD. Fact.

killadoob said:
Staggy i don't think lightscribe knows who curveball is and what he has said to the media.

Block out the obvious lies and defend your belief!!!! that is how it works around here :D.
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Sure, I have no idea who curveball is and what he has said to the media. Only you do. So, please tell us again, who is curveball and what did he say to the media? :p

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Lightscribe tends to have a set of links that he whores out on the forum constantly,they seem to always be the same links lol its just a standard protocol from him when he heard the words "NO Iraq WOMD" coming from the forum,he did not really bother reading your argument is what I'm betting,hopefully he will now.;)
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I always read the posts, links and even the comments at the articles linked to. Yes, it's standard protocol for me to keep showing that Saddam had WMD, used WMD, then later stated, that he planned to use nuclear WMD, whenever someone tries to blantantly lie, by saying he did not have WMD.

At least TheStaggy makes the effort to explain the condition of the 500 pieces found, which is not the only evidence that I have mentioned. Killa simply makes a blanket BS statement, continuously.

Also, Killa admits he does not read comments below articles. Killa's waffling of BS, shows he also takes no notice of anything someone posts, or simply ignores it, if it does not fit his agenda.

Saddam had WMD, used WMD, then later stated, that he planned to use nuclear WMD.
 
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Ok lightscribe we know the US were justified in attacking iraq and never lied live on television. Ok end of iraq war. Curveball didn't exist and the US never lie. Now let's more past iraq. belief is unbreakable and i don't think staggy falcon or myself are trying to convince you of anything.

I somehow don't see an agreement between russia and the US, stalling tactics by kerry because he knew they didn't have support for a strike. Now the UK, france and kerry are saying we must show assad he can't use chemical weapons so i don't know how they are talking about mid 2014 when kerry is talking about a strike sooner rather than later.
 
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killadoob said:
Ok lightscribe we know the US were justified in attacking iraq and never lied live on television. Ok end of iraq war. Curveball didn't exist and the US never lie. Now let's more past iraq. belief is unbreakable and i don't think staggy falcon or myself are trying to convince you of anything.
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As I've said before, some simply did not know, how true their statements were. If they said on TV, "Saddam has and uses WMD", they did not lie. Only SOME of their intel was faulty. As in the case of curveball. I repeat, ONLY SOME OF THEIR INTEL WAS FAULTY.

Those that say they were mistaken, or they had overblown the intel, do so from what they know, of the total of evidence available today. One person's statements, does not a case make...You need to use all available evidence from that period, up to the present time. As more time passes, the evidence keeps mounting, not dissipating...

I don't think you're trying to convince me...you're trying to convince those, who have not spent years digging around for evidence. A person that has not delved into the issue, may be misinformed as to the facts, due to your deliberate obfuscation and rabid anti USA stance. That is what I will keep correcting.

You can keep trying to rewrite, distort or change history, with your "useful idiot" BS propaganda, but there will always be those, that will point out your deliberate obfuscation and blatant lies.

I somehow don't see an agreement between russia and the US, stalling tactics by kerry because he knew they didn't have support for a strike. Now the UK, france and kerry are saying we must show assad he can't use chemical weapons so i don't know how they are talking about mid 2014 when kerry is talking about a strike sooner rather than later.
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Syria is just a plain sad situation. As mentioned a few posts back, it's going to take decades, not years, to dispose of the specific chemical weapons, that Russia and assad will allow knowledge of.

With the deliberate spreading of the chemical weapons, across the country lately, I would not even have bothered to debate with assad any further.

The war against assad will not end, for as long as he is part of the equation, even of a new government. As a few of us keep pointing out, the issue is larger than just protesters and rebels, since pipelines play a major role, whilst geopolitical alliances and strategies are constantly being reshaped.

Whether strikes happen or not, the country is in for many years of destruction, IMO.
 
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