Space_Chief
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Yeah, I applaud him for helping bring down the USSR.
I don't agree with him here, so much.
So yes, I still think he's in the same league as Reagan and Thatcher.
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Yeah, I applaud him for helping bring down the USSR.
I don't agree with him here, so much.
So yes, I still think he's in the same league as Reagan and Thatcher.
Space_Chief
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I mean Xarog it's way better than supporting Eastern European despots morally who are shooting at protesters because your banks have issued loans to Commie regimes and you worry about repayments. With friends like West Germany and France.... 
Anyhow, thank God for Reagan and Thatcher at least.
But that's O/T.
Anyhow, thank God for Reagan and Thatcher at least.But that's O/T.
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The USSR died 25 years ago. This guy is still around fighting the cold war, though, and he was definitely involved in setting up the conflict in Ukraine given his closeness to Obama and the PNAC neocons.I mean Xarog it's way better than supporting Eastern European despots morally who are shooting at protesters because your banks have issued loans to Commie regimes and you worry about repayments. With friends like West Germany and France....
But that's O/T.
My point here is that while Eastern Europe is justifiably leery of having history repeat itself, their fear of having history repeat itself makes it easy to manipulate them so that they act against their own best interests.
Beware the superpower that becomes so desperate it finds itself willing to sacrifice pawns...
Space_Chief
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The USSR died to some degree. Certain Russian ambitions predate the USSR.
That's the thing Xarog. Conservatives in Eastern Europe are also weary of groups like UPA/OUN-B. And also weary of being sold out.
So it's more complex than you think.
In fact it's more the pro-Maidan/EU people who are more left in Eastern Europe and are now anti-Russian. But well.... some naughty tapes have taken care of them.
Good advice for everyone.
I'm not an IS supporter and condemn their actions in the strongest terms.
Definition of terrorist: An individual or organization or government who uses violence, terror, and intimidation to achieve a result. Keep in mind one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. It just depends which side of the fence you're on. Should the US invade SA (hopefully that won't happen as we don't have large oil reserves nor does uncle Bob needs to fear anything from the US for his human rights violations) and the civilians form resistance groups, they'll be portrayed as terrorists or rebels by the US controlled media. The resistance and their supporters will consider themselves as freedom fighters. Another example is Mandela was portrayed as a terrorist by the Nat propaganda machine, now he's a saint. It all depends who's in control of the brainwashing tools.
In response to the above quote, firstly, Assad is not allowing IS to operate in Syria and secondly, what right does the "super powers" have to bombard civilians and hospitals in the Middle East with their WMD? It's an open secret the US is supporting, training and arming rebels in Syria to overthrow Assad, so who are the real terrorists now? It's possible for the US to orchestrate any scenario anywhere in the world and blame it on any individual, group, religion or government (the blatant propaganda and absurdity of the discovery of the passport of one of the 911 bombers found in the ruins of the Twin Towers comes to mind) as they control the global mass media, just as the Nats controlled the minds of the whites for over 40 years with SABC propaganda and pro Nat press. The US will support military coups and tyrants as long as it serves their cause. Any Red Indian who was disposed of his land, will with no doubt agree the US leaders "speak with fork tongue"".
Since IS arrived on the scene, it became obvious Boko Haram is not serving the west's agenda anymore and Boko Haram disappeared overnight from the mass media hysteria and replaced with the new "Islamist boogey man", namely IS.
The US sits in a dilemma as IS is their ticket to bomb Syria indiscriminately, irrespective if they displace hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in their quest to get rid of Assad. For this reason the US war machine with their WMD can't be too successful to get rid of IS because that will remove the excuse to occupy Syria. It's now clear why Obama is so agitated with Putin as Russia is now meddling in their "game" and it's also becoming clear why refugees were welcomed with open arms in Europe, namely to divert global attention from US atrocities in Syria. Ironically, this mass integration of Syrians (Muslims) into European communities will just fuel the rapid expansion of Islam in Europe, completely defeating the hidden agenda of the US and its western allies.
Once Assad is removed, the government will be replaced by a US supported puppet regime as orchestrated by the US in Afghanistan, Iraq and Egypt. That will leave Iran as the last domino to fall and once that happens, it will leave the US in control of the Middle East with an unlimited supply of oil to feed their energy hungry nation.
Thirdly, it's also not a case of allowing or not allowing. Terrorists operate underground and in secret and their actions at most times cannot be predetermined. Your claim is just as absurd as saying why is the US allowing so many school shooters to operate from their midst.h
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marine1
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Every fken video has "allahu akbar" 
So who's orchestrating this big conspiracy? I don't think Obama is a thinker.
Also I don't think Iraq is fully on the US' side. They appear to have lost Afghanistan as well.
Nanfeishen
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Every fken video has "allahu akbar"
Its a local speech impediment
The party committing the most money, resources and military assets to the quest is obviously the one with the vested interest and who's going to be the main benefactor when Assad is toppled. Do the sums.
I assume you haven't visited Iraq since the US invasion and your perception and thoughts about Iraq were created by US controlled media.
It means 'God is great'. Seems to be used to cover all sorts of transgressions and emotions though.
I agree with the first part of your response and it will only be the idiots, atheists or anyone not belonging to any of the 3 Abrahamic faiths who'll disagree.
Don't judge the 1.6bn followers of a religion on the atrocities that 0.01% commits in the name of that religion.
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KARK. The main issue is that the remaining 99.99% of the followers as you claim are implicit by their lack of action and making a stand to eliminate the .001% as you claim. Thats the crux. Only recently only a few clerics "distanced" themselves from ISIS and other Muslim extremists while many more openly supported the cause. If you support vermin like Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood then it's obvious what the real and true story is.
When was the last time you attended a Friday sermon or listened to a Muslim radio station or read a Muslim newspaper? IS is condemned by Muslim clerics across SA and the world. It's the western media's job to create the perception that Islam is a violent religion. If they publish the views of moderate clerics, they're guilty of not "following the program".
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As an example, If you pray your lunchtime prayers alone you will say it about 50 times. A muslim who prays 5 times a day will say it close to 200 times a day.
So, to us is not uncommon at all. A non Muslim may only hear it during a demonstration/attack and so will think it is for that purpose alone
Fundamental Islam is an extremely violent and self-serving religion.
I hope you don't take issue with that since it's rather easy to prove.
Agree. If I shout "In the name of Jesus" before killing someone, does that make Jesus a bad person or Christianity a violent religion?
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A few half hearted words due to international pressure does not fix the fact that they are ages behind in curbing the terror in their name. Sad is it not.
It would not be in keeping with the teachings of Jesus who taught his followers to turn the other cheek.
I don't take issue because I can see you don't understand Islam. You'll quote a few verses from the Qur'an to prove your point. But what you don't understand is the context when those verses were released. Some of the perceived "violent" verses were revealed during times of war. Some verses were also later abrogated (lifted / removed) for eg slavery was first acceptable but later as Islam spread, it was considered a sin. Today, when you want to redeem yourself of a certain sin, one option is to free a slave. You'll need to study Islam with an open mind and heart and not extract selective verses after being indoctrinated by western propaganda and anti-Islamic websites. Take the effort to discuss Islam with a knowledgable person and your eyes and heart will open to the real truth.