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The Toyota Hilux Thread
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That makes 2 of us
Actually, there was an article on one of the motoring sites a little while back that stated that the best selling Ranger model over several months was the 2.2 Double Cab XL. FiestaST will recall it.
FiestaST
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FiestaST
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FiestaST
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But but no new CTR...
Nope, too expensive for a car. I am more of a bush person
Wish I could have both though.
FiestaST
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FiestaST
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Same guy that did the Moose test on the "Yeep" did it on the Hilux, here are the results
https://www.carthrottle.com/post/if-you-own-a-new-hilux-avoid-sudden-changes-of-direction-at-all-costs/
https://www.carthrottle.com/post/if-you-own-a-new-hilux-avoid-sudden-changes-of-direction-at-all-costs/
Disgusting. Their software is clearly not set up right as stability control in all of the competitors tested did a perfect job.
Reminds me of the Fortuner 1 which was unstable while towing until they fixed it.
FiestaST
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A Swedish publication has subjected the Toyota Hilux to the so-called “moose test” … and the Japanese bakkie again struggled to perform.
Teknikens Värld conducted the test, which is essentially an extreme handling evaluation designed to simulate an animal suddenly running in front of a vehicle moving at about 60 km/h.
The publication said that the previous-generation Hilux suffered a similar problem in the evasive manoeuvre test.
The video includes many of the Hilux’s rivals, such as the Ford Ranger, Mitsubishi Triton, Nissan Navara, Volkswagen Amarok and Isuzu KB, undergoing the same test.
The publication added that the moose test is usually performed with the bakkie’s maximum load, according to manufacturer specifications. The Hilux had the highest load capacity of all the tested pickups, at 1 002 kg. But in this test, Teknikens Värld says it was “loaded with only 830 kg, including the driver and four passengers, because our weights were not enough”.
“In other words, is not likely that the load is the causing problem here. If that would be the case, the suspension should have bottomed out, but it didn’t,” the report read.
Teknikens Värld approached Toyota for comment, and this is what the Swedish arm of the Japanese automaker had to say:
“Based on all the tests carried out during development, we are confident that the Toyota Hilux is a safe vehicle. As we understand, you have performed an evasive manoeuvre tests in your newspaper testing protocols on a series pickups, including the Toyota Hilux,” the statement read.
“You have informed us that the Toyota Hilux is not living up to your expectations. We were surprised by the test results, and we will take your assessment very seriously, just as we take the capacity for evasive manoeuvres as serious in the development of our vehicles.
“Hilux has been repeatedly tested according to ISO 3888 standard for evasive action test during the development of the model and then have passed the tests successfully.
“Several technical parameters have an impact on the outcome of an evasive manoeuvre, so we want to better understand the exact parameters for your test,” the automaker added
http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/toyota-hilux-falls-short-in-swedens-moose-test/
Teknikens Värld conducted the test, which is essentially an extreme handling evaluation designed to simulate an animal suddenly running in front of a vehicle moving at about 60 km/h.
The publication said that the previous-generation Hilux suffered a similar problem in the evasive manoeuvre test.
The video includes many of the Hilux’s rivals, such as the Ford Ranger, Mitsubishi Triton, Nissan Navara, Volkswagen Amarok and Isuzu KB, undergoing the same test.
The publication added that the moose test is usually performed with the bakkie’s maximum load, according to manufacturer specifications. The Hilux had the highest load capacity of all the tested pickups, at 1 002 kg. But in this test, Teknikens Värld says it was “loaded with only 830 kg, including the driver and four passengers, because our weights were not enough”.
“In other words, is not likely that the load is the causing problem here. If that would be the case, the suspension should have bottomed out, but it didn’t,” the report read.
Teknikens Värld approached Toyota for comment, and this is what the Swedish arm of the Japanese automaker had to say:
“Based on all the tests carried out during development, we are confident that the Toyota Hilux is a safe vehicle. As we understand, you have performed an evasive manoeuvre tests in your newspaper testing protocols on a series pickups, including the Toyota Hilux,” the statement read.
“You have informed us that the Toyota Hilux is not living up to your expectations. We were surprised by the test results, and we will take your assessment very seriously, just as we take the capacity for evasive manoeuvres as serious in the development of our vehicles.
“Hilux has been repeatedly tested according to ISO 3888 standard for evasive action test during the development of the model and then have passed the tests successfully.
“Several technical parameters have an impact on the outcome of an evasive manoeuvre, so we want to better understand the exact parameters for your test,” the automaker added
http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/toyota-hilux-falls-short-in-swedens-moose-test/
Drifter
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[video=youtube;xoHbn8-ROiQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoHbn8-ROiQ[/video]
DA-LION-619
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But didn't we already know it's easy to flip a Hilux?
Drifter
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You are supposed to read the article and then comment, not just look at the peechas. You are missing the whole point.
DA-LION-619
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Read the article and watched the video. Also remember watching a video by Jeremy Clarkson on the history of cars or something, he mentioned bigger SUVs are easier to flip due to their center of gravity or something.
FiestaST
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I think a "Wildtrak" spec flagship overbite Hilux will do very very well locally.
FiestaST
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http://www.wheels24.co.za/OffRoad_a...yota-hilux-the-worst-handling-bakkie-20161028
Video shows Hilux bakkie fail handling test, Toyota responds
The Toyota Hilux may be South Africa's bakkie king but a recent video shows the vehicle reportedly fail handling tests.
In the video, created by Swedish motoring publication Teknikens Värld, the Hilux can be seen travelling at 60km/h as a test driver attempts to navigate a 'Moose Test''.
The Hilux can be seen nearly tipping over as the driver attempts to avoid traffic cones. Wheels24 contacted Toyota for comment and we've posted the automaker's response at the end of this article.
De ja vu Hilux test
Teknikens Värld calls the Hilux performance in its Moose Test "a big failure". It claims its driver travelled at 60km/h and while attempting avoid cones, the bakkies, left-side suspension bottomed out and its right front wheel lifted off the track...eerily reminiscent of the publication's test of a 2007 Hilux, nine-years earlier.
Conclusion? Teknikens Varld believes "something is seriously wrong" with the bakkie's dynamic safety system though adds that the result is dependent on the tyres fitted.
The test
The Moose Test is performed at the bakkie's maximum load capacity with the Toyota Hilux having highest capacity among the tested vehicles (1002kg). For the test however it was loaded with only 830kg (including the driver and four passengers).
SHOCKING: Is the Toyota Hilux the 'worst handling' bakkie in its segment?
Most telling is that the video shows rival bakkies, including the Volkswagen Amarok and Nissan Navara, undergoing passing the same tests with flying colours.
Toyota responds
Wheels24 contacted Toyota for response:
Toyota Motor Corporation (TMC) said: "At Toyota, the safety and security of our customers remains our number one priority.
"Toyota takes the report published by the Swedish automobile magazine, Teknikens Värld, on this emergency-avoidance test seriously and we are currently in discussions with the publication to find out additional details about the test.
"Toyota applies its own strict safety standards to all our products and Hilux meets these standards. Nonetheless, to further ensure the safety and security of our customers, we will conduct a thorough analysis of their test and quickly determine our response."
http://www.wheels24.co.za/OffRoad_a...e-fail-handling-test-toyota-responds-20161028
Video shows Hilux bakkie fail handling test, Toyota responds
The Toyota Hilux may be South Africa's bakkie king but a recent video shows the vehicle reportedly fail handling tests.
In the video, created by Swedish motoring publication Teknikens Värld, the Hilux can be seen travelling at 60km/h as a test driver attempts to navigate a 'Moose Test''.
The Hilux can be seen nearly tipping over as the driver attempts to avoid traffic cones. Wheels24 contacted Toyota for comment and we've posted the automaker's response at the end of this article.
De ja vu Hilux test
Teknikens Värld calls the Hilux performance in its Moose Test "a big failure". It claims its driver travelled at 60km/h and while attempting avoid cones, the bakkies, left-side suspension bottomed out and its right front wheel lifted off the track...eerily reminiscent of the publication's test of a 2007 Hilux, nine-years earlier.
Conclusion? Teknikens Varld believes "something is seriously wrong" with the bakkie's dynamic safety system though adds that the result is dependent on the tyres fitted.
The test
The Moose Test is performed at the bakkie's maximum load capacity with the Toyota Hilux having highest capacity among the tested vehicles (1002kg). For the test however it was loaded with only 830kg (including the driver and four passengers).
SHOCKING: Is the Toyota Hilux the 'worst handling' bakkie in its segment?
Most telling is that the video shows rival bakkies, including the Volkswagen Amarok and Nissan Navara, undergoing passing the same tests with flying colours.
Toyota responds
Wheels24 contacted Toyota for response:
Toyota Motor Corporation (TMC) said: "At Toyota, the safety and security of our customers remains our number one priority.
"Toyota takes the report published by the Swedish automobile magazine, Teknikens Värld, on this emergency-avoidance test seriously and we are currently in discussions with the publication to find out additional details about the test.
"Toyota applies its own strict safety standards to all our products and Hilux meets these standards. Nonetheless, to further ensure the safety and security of our customers, we will conduct a thorough analysis of their test and quickly determine our response."
http://www.wheels24.co.za/OffRoad_a...e-fail-handling-test-toyota-responds-20161028
TheChamp
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Very reassuring
