The_Assimilator
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Hopefully very very dead. Either way it's not going to make much difference to the upcoming civil war.
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The Unrest in Egypt Thread 2013
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Hopefully very very dead. Either way it's not going to make much difference to the upcoming civil war.
Haldex
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The_Assimilator
Executive Member
His mistake was to sign into law a constitution essentially written by the Muslim Brotherhood.
Alive or dead, the Brotherhood will use him as a martyr to garner support.
killadoob
Honorary Master
How many laws and bill has obama changed, how many impeachable offenses has he made? No different to morsi.
Naaa meth labs ain't worth the effort grant
, kuk stuff . muh better things to keep me busy hahaha like work, not keen on butt rape either.
thestaggy
Honorary Master
What's going on there? Was that security vehicle pushed off the bridge?
killadoob
Honorary Master
Yup, you should them shaking another military vehicles, all slaughtering people does inflame them and become zombie like in the way they will just keep going. Almost go crazy. Massive violence last night wow.
You guys must watch aljazeera after prayers tomorrow. The protestors were sitting around for days with no violence, then the army attacks them and look at the impact. Peaceful protests turned deadly. Last time there was a peaceful protest the democratically elected president was arrested this time egptian people are slaughtered, the egyptian army stormed a hospital and said get out or you die according to witnesses. Slow he is killing civil liberties and american freedom. The only thing stopping a socialist state is 100 million armed gun owners. NSA has uncovered who will oppose his coming actions.
http://www.policymic.com/articles/45917/obama-impeachment-how-many-americans-really-want-this
Assim obama has done far worse than morsi during his time in power. They reckon they have enough votes to impeach him and they should. Absolutely terrible president who is disregarding the Constitution, american people need to stand up and the republicans need to impeach him.
NSA scandal, IRS scandal, Libya scandal are enough for impeachment. He is also passing so many laws and tweaking the constitution.Slowly he is killing civil liberties and american freemdom. The only thing stopping a socialist state is 100 million armed gun owners. NSA has uncovered who will oppose his coming actions. He can now detain anyone he deems a threat to national security without trial, gitmo is active in america, just a matter of implementing it.
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OrbitalDawn
Ulysses Everett McGill
Gotta love how the lunatics will pray all peacefully and then return to their bloodthirsty raids.
OrbitalDawn
Ulysses Everett McGill
Interesting modification to the ninja outfit.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
After Hundreds Killed, Egypt faces new uncertainty
Egypt faced a new phase of uncertainty on Thursday after the bloodiest day since its Arab Spring began, with nearly 300 people reported killed and thousands injured as police smashed two protest camps of supporters of the deposed Islamist president.
Wednesday's raids touched off day-long street violence that prompted the military-backed interim leaders to impose a state of emergency and curfew, and drew widespread condemnation from the Muslim world and the West, including the United States.
Nobel Peace Prize winner Mohamed ElBaradei resigned as Egypt's interim vice president in protest - a blow to the new leadership's credibility with the pro-reform movement.
Interim Prime Minister Hazem el-Beblawi said in a televised address to the nation that it was a "difficult day" and that he regretted the bloodshed but offered no apologies for moving against the supporters of ousted President Mohammed Morsi, saying they were given ample warnings to leave and he had tried foreign mediation efforts.
The leaders of Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood called it a "massacre." Several of them were detained as police swept through the two sit-in sites, scores of other Islamists were taken into custody, and the future of the once-banned movement was uncertain.
Backed by helicopters, police fired tear gas and used armored bulldozers to plow into the barricades at the two protest camps in different sections of Cairo where the Morsi supporters had been camped since before he was ousted by the military July 3.
The smaller camp - near Cairo University in Giza - was cleared of protesters relatively quickly, but it took about 12 hours for police to take control of the main sit-in site near the Rabaah al-Adawiya Mosque in Nasr City that has served as the epicenter of the pro-Morsi campaign and had drawn chanting throngs of men, women and children only days earlier.
After the police moved on the camps, street battles broke out in Cairo and other cities across Egypt. Government buildings and police stations were attacked, roads were blocked, and Christian churches were torched, Interior Minister Mohammed Ibrahim said.
At one point, protesters trapped a police Humvee on an overpass near the Nasr City camp and pushed it off, according to images posted on social networking sites that showed an injured policeman on the ground below, near a pool of blood and the overturned vehicle.
The Health Ministry said 235 civilians were killed and more than 2,000 injured, while Ibrahim said 43 policemen died in the violence. The death toll was expected to rise.
Three journalists were among the dead: Mick Deane, 61, a cameraman for British broadcaster Sky News; Habiba Ahmed Abd Elaziz, 26, a reporter for the Gulf News, a state-backed newspaper in the United Arab Emirates; and Ahmed Abdel Gawad, who wrote for Egypt's state-run newspaper Al Akhbar. Deane and Elaziz were shot to death, their employers said, while the Egyptian Press Syndicate, a journalists' union, said it had no information on how Gawad was killed.
For much of the afternoon, thousands of Morsi supporters chanting "God is great!" tried to join those besieged by the security forces inside the Nasr City camp. They were driven away when police fired tear gas.
Smoke clogged the sky above Cairo and fires smoldered on the streets, which were lined with charred poles and tarps after several tents were burned.
The Great Pyramids just west of Cairo were closed to visitors for the day together with the Egyptian Museum in the heart of the city. The central bank instructed commercial banks to close branches in areas affected by the chaos.
"Egypt has never witnessed such genocide," Brotherhood spokesman Ahmed Aref told The Associated Press from the larger of the two protest camps before it was cleared.
The pro-Morsi Anti-Coup Alliance alleged security forces used live ammunition, but the Interior Ministry, which is in charge of the police, said its forces only used tear gas and that they came under fire from the camp.
Security officials said train services between northern and southern Egypt were suspended to prevent Morsi supporters from traveling to Cairo. Clashes erupted on two roads in the capital's upscale Mohandiseen district when Morsi supporters opened fire on passing cars and pedestrians. Police used tear gas to chase them away.
The security officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to media.
The government declared a monthlong nationwide state of emergency and imposed a nighttime curfew on Cairo, Alexandria on the Mediterranean and 12 other provinces where violence broke out following the simultaneous raids.
It also ordered the armed forces to support the police in restoring law and order and protect state facilities. Egypt was under emergency law for most of Mubarak's 29 years in power.
Despite the curfew, sporadic clashes continued in Cairo through the evening.
In the city of Assiut, south of Cairo, a police station was hit by two mortar shells Wednesday night fired by suspected Morsi supporters, according to officers there who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to reporters.
Anger over Morsi's ouster already has led to an increase in Islamic militant violence in the northern half of the Sinai Peninsula that borders Israel and Gaza, and many fear growing anger over the crackdown and deaths of civilians could be exploited by extremists.
The turmoil was the latest chapter in a bitter standoff between Morsi's supporters and the interim leadership that took over the Arab world's most populous country. The military ousted Morsi after millions of Egyptians massed in the streets at the end of June to call for him to step down, accusing him of giving the Brotherhood undue influence and failing to implement vital reforms or bolster the ailing economy.
Several senior leaders of the Brotherhood who were wanted by police were detained after the camps were stormed, according to security officials and state television. Among those seized were Brotherhood leaders Mohammed el-Beltagy and Essam el-Erian, and hard-line cleric Safwat Hegazy - all wanted by prosecutors to answer allegations of inciting violence and conspiring to kill anti-Morsi protesters.
Morsi himself has been held at an undisclosed location. Other Brotherhood leaders have been charged with inciting violence or conspiring in the killing of protesters.
A security official said 200 protesters were arrested at both camps. Several men could be seen walking with their hands up as they were led away by black-clad police.
The Muslim Brotherhood's political arm claimed that more than 500 protesters were killed and some 9,000 wounded in the two camps, but those figures could not be confirmed and nothing in the video from AP or local TV networks suggested such a high death toll.
The Brotherhood has spent most of the 85 years since its creation as an outlawed group or enduring crackdowns by successive governments. The latest developments could provide authorities with the grounds to once again declare it an illegal group and consign it to the political wilderness.
In his televised address, el-Beblawi said the government could not indefinitely tolerate a challenge to authority that the 6-week-old protests represented.
"We want to see a civilian state in Egypt, not a military state and not a religious state," he said.
But the resignation of ElBaradei, the former head of the U.N. nuclear agency and a figure widely respected by Western governments, was the first crack to emerge in the government as a result of the violence.
ElBaradei had made it clear in recent weeks that he was against the use of force to end the protests. At least 250 people have died in previous clashes since the coup that ousted Morsi, Egypt's first freely elected president.
On Wednesday, his letter of resignation to interim President Adly Mansour carried an ominous message to a nation already torn by more than two years of turmoil.
"It has become difficult for me to continue to take responsibility for decisions I disapprove of, and I fear their consequences," he said in the letter that was emailed to The Associated Press. "I cannot take responsibility before God, my conscience and country for a single drop of blood, especially because I know it was possible to spare it.
The National Salvation front, the main opposition grouping that he headed during Morsi's year in office, said it regretted his departure and complained that it was not consulted beforehand. Tamarod, the youth group behind the mass anti-Morsi protests that preceded the coup, said ElBaradei was dodging his responsibility at a time when his services were needed.
Sheik Ahmed el-Tayeb, the powerful head of Al-Azhar mosque, Sunni Islam's main seat of learning, also sought to distance himself from the violence. He said in a statement he had no prior knowledge of the action.
U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said the violence had dealt a "serious blow" to Egypt's political reconciliation efforts, and gave a stern warning to Egypt's leaders.
"This is a pivotal moment for all Egyptians," said Kerry, who spoke by phone with the foreign minister. "The path toward violence leads only to greater instability, economic disaster and suffering."
U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon urged all Egyptians to focus on reconciliation, while European Union foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton said dialogue should be encouraged through "peaceful protest, protecting all citizens and enabling full political participation."
Source : Sapa-AP /pk
Date : 15 Aug 2013 09:03
Egypt faced a new phase of uncertainty on Thursday after the bloodiest day since its Arab Spring began, with nearly 300 people reported killed and thousands injured as police smashed two protest camps of supporters of the deposed Islamist president.
Wednesday's raids touched off day-long street violence that prompted the military-backed interim leaders to impose a state of emergency and curfew, and drew widespread condemnation from the Muslim world and the West, including the United States.
Nobel Peace Prize winner Mohamed ElBaradei resigned as Egypt's interim vice president in protest - a blow to the new leadership's credibility with the pro-reform movement.
Interim Prime Minister Hazem el-Beblawi said in a televised address to the nation that it was a "difficult day" and that he regretted the bloodshed but offered no apologies for moving against the supporters of ousted President Mohammed Morsi, saying they were given ample warnings to leave and he had tried foreign mediation efforts.
The leaders of Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood called it a "massacre." Several of them were detained as police swept through the two sit-in sites, scores of other Islamists were taken into custody, and the future of the once-banned movement was uncertain.
Backed by helicopters, police fired tear gas and used armored bulldozers to plow into the barricades at the two protest camps in different sections of Cairo where the Morsi supporters had been camped since before he was ousted by the military July 3.
The smaller camp - near Cairo University in Giza - was cleared of protesters relatively quickly, but it took about 12 hours for police to take control of the main sit-in site near the Rabaah al-Adawiya Mosque in Nasr City that has served as the epicenter of the pro-Morsi campaign and had drawn chanting throngs of men, women and children only days earlier.
After the police moved on the camps, street battles broke out in Cairo and other cities across Egypt. Government buildings and police stations were attacked, roads were blocked, and Christian churches were torched, Interior Minister Mohammed Ibrahim said.
At one point, protesters trapped a police Humvee on an overpass near the Nasr City camp and pushed it off, according to images posted on social networking sites that showed an injured policeman on the ground below, near a pool of blood and the overturned vehicle.
The Health Ministry said 235 civilians were killed and more than 2,000 injured, while Ibrahim said 43 policemen died in the violence. The death toll was expected to rise.
Three journalists were among the dead: Mick Deane, 61, a cameraman for British broadcaster Sky News; Habiba Ahmed Abd Elaziz, 26, a reporter for the Gulf News, a state-backed newspaper in the United Arab Emirates; and Ahmed Abdel Gawad, who wrote for Egypt's state-run newspaper Al Akhbar. Deane and Elaziz were shot to death, their employers said, while the Egyptian Press Syndicate, a journalists' union, said it had no information on how Gawad was killed.
For much of the afternoon, thousands of Morsi supporters chanting "God is great!" tried to join those besieged by the security forces inside the Nasr City camp. They were driven away when police fired tear gas.
Smoke clogged the sky above Cairo and fires smoldered on the streets, which were lined with charred poles and tarps after several tents were burned.
The Great Pyramids just west of Cairo were closed to visitors for the day together with the Egyptian Museum in the heart of the city. The central bank instructed commercial banks to close branches in areas affected by the chaos.
"Egypt has never witnessed such genocide," Brotherhood spokesman Ahmed Aref told The Associated Press from the larger of the two protest camps before it was cleared.
The pro-Morsi Anti-Coup Alliance alleged security forces used live ammunition, but the Interior Ministry, which is in charge of the police, said its forces only used tear gas and that they came under fire from the camp.
Security officials said train services between northern and southern Egypt were suspended to prevent Morsi supporters from traveling to Cairo. Clashes erupted on two roads in the capital's upscale Mohandiseen district when Morsi supporters opened fire on passing cars and pedestrians. Police used tear gas to chase them away.
The security officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to media.
The government declared a monthlong nationwide state of emergency and imposed a nighttime curfew on Cairo, Alexandria on the Mediterranean and 12 other provinces where violence broke out following the simultaneous raids.
It also ordered the armed forces to support the police in restoring law and order and protect state facilities. Egypt was under emergency law for most of Mubarak's 29 years in power.
Despite the curfew, sporadic clashes continued in Cairo through the evening.
In the city of Assiut, south of Cairo, a police station was hit by two mortar shells Wednesday night fired by suspected Morsi supporters, according to officers there who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to reporters.
Anger over Morsi's ouster already has led to an increase in Islamic militant violence in the northern half of the Sinai Peninsula that borders Israel and Gaza, and many fear growing anger over the crackdown and deaths of civilians could be exploited by extremists.
The turmoil was the latest chapter in a bitter standoff between Morsi's supporters and the interim leadership that took over the Arab world's most populous country. The military ousted Morsi after millions of Egyptians massed in the streets at the end of June to call for him to step down, accusing him of giving the Brotherhood undue influence and failing to implement vital reforms or bolster the ailing economy.
Several senior leaders of the Brotherhood who were wanted by police were detained after the camps were stormed, according to security officials and state television. Among those seized were Brotherhood leaders Mohammed el-Beltagy and Essam el-Erian, and hard-line cleric Safwat Hegazy - all wanted by prosecutors to answer allegations of inciting violence and conspiring to kill anti-Morsi protesters.
Morsi himself has been held at an undisclosed location. Other Brotherhood leaders have been charged with inciting violence or conspiring in the killing of protesters.
A security official said 200 protesters were arrested at both camps. Several men could be seen walking with their hands up as they were led away by black-clad police.
The Muslim Brotherhood's political arm claimed that more than 500 protesters were killed and some 9,000 wounded in the two camps, but those figures could not be confirmed and nothing in the video from AP or local TV networks suggested such a high death toll.
The Brotherhood has spent most of the 85 years since its creation as an outlawed group or enduring crackdowns by successive governments. The latest developments could provide authorities with the grounds to once again declare it an illegal group and consign it to the political wilderness.
In his televised address, el-Beblawi said the government could not indefinitely tolerate a challenge to authority that the 6-week-old protests represented.
"We want to see a civilian state in Egypt, not a military state and not a religious state," he said.
But the resignation of ElBaradei, the former head of the U.N. nuclear agency and a figure widely respected by Western governments, was the first crack to emerge in the government as a result of the violence.
ElBaradei had made it clear in recent weeks that he was against the use of force to end the protests. At least 250 people have died in previous clashes since the coup that ousted Morsi, Egypt's first freely elected president.
On Wednesday, his letter of resignation to interim President Adly Mansour carried an ominous message to a nation already torn by more than two years of turmoil.
"It has become difficult for me to continue to take responsibility for decisions I disapprove of, and I fear their consequences," he said in the letter that was emailed to The Associated Press. "I cannot take responsibility before God, my conscience and country for a single drop of blood, especially because I know it was possible to spare it.
The National Salvation front, the main opposition grouping that he headed during Morsi's year in office, said it regretted his departure and complained that it was not consulted beforehand. Tamarod, the youth group behind the mass anti-Morsi protests that preceded the coup, said ElBaradei was dodging his responsibility at a time when his services were needed.
Sheik Ahmed el-Tayeb, the powerful head of Al-Azhar mosque, Sunni Islam's main seat of learning, also sought to distance himself from the violence. He said in a statement he had no prior knowledge of the action.
U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said the violence had dealt a "serious blow" to Egypt's political reconciliation efforts, and gave a stern warning to Egypt's leaders.
"This is a pivotal moment for all Egyptians," said Kerry, who spoke by phone with the foreign minister. "The path toward violence leads only to greater instability, economic disaster and suffering."
U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon urged all Egyptians to focus on reconciliation, while European Union foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton said dialogue should be encouraged through "peaceful protest, protecting all citizens and enabling full political participation."
Source : Sapa-AP /pk
Date : 15 Aug 2013 09:03
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Three Journos killed in Egypt Turmoil
Three journalists, including a cameraman for British broadcaster Sky News and a Dubai-based newspaper reporter, were killed and several were injured in the violence that erupted in Egypt on Wednesday.
Media watchdogs urged Egypt to investigate all attacks on journalists and to hold those responsible to account, condemning the casualties that occurred after riot police backed by armored vehicles, bulldozers and helicopters swept away two encampments of supporters of ousted President Mohammed Morsi.
Scores of people were killed in the violence nationwide.
Sky news said Mick Deane, 61, was shot and wounded while covering the violent breakup of protest camps in the capital, Cairo. It said he was treated for his injuries but died soon after. The rest of the Sky crew was unhurt.
The Gulf News, a state-backed newspaper in the United Arab Emirates, reported on its website that journalist Habiba Ahmed Abd Elaziz, 26, was shot dead near the Rabaah al-Adawiya mosque in Cairo as security forces moved in on a sit-in by Morsi supporters.
The newspaper said she had been on annual leave and was not on assignment at the protest for the XPRESS, a sister publication that she worked for.
Egyptian journalist Ahmed Abdel Gawad, who wrote for the state-run newspaper Al Akhbar, was killed while covering the crackdown at Rabaah al-Adawiya. The Egyptian Press Syndicate, a journalist union, confirmed Gawad's death, though it had no other information about how he was killed.
Sky said Deane had worked for the broadcaster for 15 years in the United States and the Middle East. He was married with two sons.
The broadcaster's news chief, John Ryley, said Deane was "the very best of cameramen, a brilliant journalist and an inspiring mentor to many at Sky," while British Prime Minister David Cameron said he was "saddened to hear of the death."
The Gulf News said it spoke to the UAE journalist's younger sister Arwa Ramadan, who confirmed her death.
"My mom spoke to her close to (early morning prayers), but when she called again at 12 noon, there was no response," the sister said. "She called again, and somebody picked up the phone and told her Habiba was dead. My dad, who is in Egypt right now, confirmed it later."
The Gulf News quoted deputy editor Mazhar Farooqui as saying the publication was in shock.
"It's hard to believe she's gone," Farooqui said. "She was passionate about her work and had a promising career ahead."
The Committee to Protect Journalists said it was investigating several attacks on journalists and urged Egyptian authorities to "show restraint and allow the media to do their job."
"We call on Egyptian authorities to issue clear orders to security forces to respect the right of journalists to work freely and safely while covering events in Cairo and the rest of the country," said Robert Mahoney, deputy director of the media watchdog.
The International Press Institute said it had received reports that journalists were being targeted by both sides in the clashes.
"Journalists are neutral parties in conflicts and should not be the target of violence, regardless of who is perpetrating it," IPI Executive Director Alison Bethel McKenzie said. "The Egyptian government must also be held accountable by the international community for any deaths or attacks that deliberately targeted media workers."
Reuters news agency confirmed that photographer Asmaa Waguih had been shot in the foot and is receiving treatment for her bullet wound.
An Associated Press photographer working near the Rabaah al-Adawiya mosque during the melee was hit in the back of the neck by two birdshot pellets, said Manoocher Deghati, the AP's Middle East photo editor. The photographer received medical care and later returned to work, Deghati added.
Qatar-based broadcaster Al Jazeera said its cameraman Mohammed al-Zaki were shot in the arm and that two of its correspondents were arrested during the day.
Paris-based Reporters Without Borders said it had learned of several other injured Egyptian journalists, including Tarek Abbas - a reporter for the Egyptian newspaper Al-Watan who was sustained gunshot wounds to his leg and eye - and photographer Ahmad Najjar who was shot in the arm and had his camera seized.
Source : Sapa-AP /mjs
Date : 14 Aug 2013 23:37
Three journalists, including a cameraman for British broadcaster Sky News and a Dubai-based newspaper reporter, were killed and several were injured in the violence that erupted in Egypt on Wednesday.
Media watchdogs urged Egypt to investigate all attacks on journalists and to hold those responsible to account, condemning the casualties that occurred after riot police backed by armored vehicles, bulldozers and helicopters swept away two encampments of supporters of ousted President Mohammed Morsi.
Scores of people were killed in the violence nationwide.
Sky news said Mick Deane, 61, was shot and wounded while covering the violent breakup of protest camps in the capital, Cairo. It said he was treated for his injuries but died soon after. The rest of the Sky crew was unhurt.
The Gulf News, a state-backed newspaper in the United Arab Emirates, reported on its website that journalist Habiba Ahmed Abd Elaziz, 26, was shot dead near the Rabaah al-Adawiya mosque in Cairo as security forces moved in on a sit-in by Morsi supporters.
The newspaper said she had been on annual leave and was not on assignment at the protest for the XPRESS, a sister publication that she worked for.
Egyptian journalist Ahmed Abdel Gawad, who wrote for the state-run newspaper Al Akhbar, was killed while covering the crackdown at Rabaah al-Adawiya. The Egyptian Press Syndicate, a journalist union, confirmed Gawad's death, though it had no other information about how he was killed.
Sky said Deane had worked for the broadcaster for 15 years in the United States and the Middle East. He was married with two sons.
The broadcaster's news chief, John Ryley, said Deane was "the very best of cameramen, a brilliant journalist and an inspiring mentor to many at Sky," while British Prime Minister David Cameron said he was "saddened to hear of the death."
The Gulf News said it spoke to the UAE journalist's younger sister Arwa Ramadan, who confirmed her death.
"My mom spoke to her close to (early morning prayers), but when she called again at 12 noon, there was no response," the sister said. "She called again, and somebody picked up the phone and told her Habiba was dead. My dad, who is in Egypt right now, confirmed it later."
The Gulf News quoted deputy editor Mazhar Farooqui as saying the publication was in shock.
"It's hard to believe she's gone," Farooqui said. "She was passionate about her work and had a promising career ahead."
The Committee to Protect Journalists said it was investigating several attacks on journalists and urged Egyptian authorities to "show restraint and allow the media to do their job."
"We call on Egyptian authorities to issue clear orders to security forces to respect the right of journalists to work freely and safely while covering events in Cairo and the rest of the country," said Robert Mahoney, deputy director of the media watchdog.
The International Press Institute said it had received reports that journalists were being targeted by both sides in the clashes.
"Journalists are neutral parties in conflicts and should not be the target of violence, regardless of who is perpetrating it," IPI Executive Director Alison Bethel McKenzie said. "The Egyptian government must also be held accountable by the international community for any deaths or attacks that deliberately targeted media workers."
Reuters news agency confirmed that photographer Asmaa Waguih had been shot in the foot and is receiving treatment for her bullet wound.
An Associated Press photographer working near the Rabaah al-Adawiya mosque during the melee was hit in the back of the neck by two birdshot pellets, said Manoocher Deghati, the AP's Middle East photo editor. The photographer received medical care and later returned to work, Deghati added.
Qatar-based broadcaster Al Jazeera said its cameraman Mohammed al-Zaki were shot in the arm and that two of its correspondents were arrested during the day.
Paris-based Reporters Without Borders said it had learned of several other injured Egyptian journalists, including Tarek Abbas - a reporter for the Egyptian newspaper Al-Watan who was sustained gunshot wounds to his leg and eye - and photographer Ahmad Najjar who was shot in the arm and had his camera seized.
Source : Sapa-AP /mjs
Date : 14 Aug 2013 23:37
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Nearly 350 dead after police storm protests
Egyptians emerged Thursday from an all-night curfew imposed after the worst violence since their 2011 uprising, with 343 people killed as security forces broke up protests supporting ousted president Mohamed Morsi.
The army-backed interim government imposed a month-long nationwide state of emergency, and curfews in Cairo and 13 other provinces.
Shortly after the curfew ended on Thursday morning, light traffic began returning to Cairo's streets, with roads blocked for weeks by the pro-Morsi protests now reopened.
A health ministry official said at least 300 civilians had been killed throughout the country, updating an earlier toll. The interior ministry added that 43 security personnel had lost their lives.
(Egypt's press carried photos Thursday of Morsi supporters brandishing weapons and throwing stones at police during the previous day's confrontations.)
"The nightmare of the Brotherhood is gone," daily Al-Akhbar's front page headline read.
"The Brotherhood's last battle," added Al-Shorouk.
At least four churches were attacked, with Christian activists accusing Morsi loyalists of waging "a war of retaliation against Copts in Egypt".
The day's violence was the worst since the 2011 uprising that ousted president Hosni Mubarak, with an AFP correspondent counting at least 124 bodies in makeshift morgues in the Rabaa al-Adawiya protest site.
Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood spoke of 2,200 dead overall and more than 10,000 wounded.
The violence prompted vice president and Nobel laureate Mohamed ElBaradei to resign, saying he was troubled over the loss of life, "particularly as I believe it could have been avoided".
"It has become too difficult to continue bearing responsibility for decisions I do not agree with and whose consequences I fear," he said.
The dramatic assault on the sit-ins shortly after dawn surprised many, coming after officials had described plans to gradually disperse the sit-ins over several days.
The operation began with security forces firing tear gas before surging into Rabaa al-Adawiya, sparking pandemonium among the thousands of protesters camping there in opposition to Morsi's July 3 ouster by the military.
After the worst of the violence, many Morsi supporters were given safe passage out of the camp, some flashing victory signs as they left.
By Wednesday evening, a security official said Rabaa al-Adawiya was "totally under control", adding: "There are no more clashes".
In the smaller of the protest camps, at Al-Nahda square in central Cairo, police said they had control of the area after two hours.
Dozens rounded up in the dispersal were shown sitting on the ground, handcuffed and surrounded by security forces.
Authorities later said calm had been restored across the country.
Europe's leading powers, along with Iran, Qatar and Turkey, strongly denounced the use of force by the interim government.
The White House said Washington, which provides Egypt with $1.3 billion in annual military aid, "strongly condemns" the violence against the protesters and opposed the imposition of a state of emergency.
But Egypt's interim prime minister Hazem al-Beblawi praised the police for their "self-restraint" and said the government remained committed to an army-drafted roadmap calling for elections in 2014.
The Brotherhood urged Egyptians to take to the streets in their thousands to denounce the "massacre".
"This is not an attempt to disperse, but a bloody attempt to crush all voices of opposition to the military coup," spokesman Gehad al-Haddad said on Twitter.
Interior Minister Mohamed Ibrahim said no more protests would be tolerated, and in several neighbourhoods residents clashed with angry Morsi loyalists.
Clashes also erupted between security forces and Morsi supporters in the northern provinces of Alexandria and Beheira, the canal provinces of Suez and Ismailiya, and the central provinces of Assiut and Menya.
(In Alexandria, hundreds of angry Morsi supporters marched Wednesday through the streets armed with wooden clubs chanting "Morsi is my president" and tearing down pictures of army chief Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, who led the coup against Morsi.)
It was a dramatic turn of events for the Muslim Brotherhood, who just over a year ago celebrated Morsi's victory as Egypt's first elected president.
His turbulent year in power, marred by political turmoil, deadly clashes and a crippling economic crisis, turned many against the Islamist movement, with millions taking to the streets on June 30 to call for his removal.
Source : Sapa-AFP /pk
Date : 15 Aug 2013 09:45
Egyptians emerged Thursday from an all-night curfew imposed after the worst violence since their 2011 uprising, with 343 people killed as security forces broke up protests supporting ousted president Mohamed Morsi.
The army-backed interim government imposed a month-long nationwide state of emergency, and curfews in Cairo and 13 other provinces.
Shortly after the curfew ended on Thursday morning, light traffic began returning to Cairo's streets, with roads blocked for weeks by the pro-Morsi protests now reopened.
A health ministry official said at least 300 civilians had been killed throughout the country, updating an earlier toll. The interior ministry added that 43 security personnel had lost their lives.
(Egypt's press carried photos Thursday of Morsi supporters brandishing weapons and throwing stones at police during the previous day's confrontations.)
"The nightmare of the Brotherhood is gone," daily Al-Akhbar's front page headline read.
"The Brotherhood's last battle," added Al-Shorouk.
At least four churches were attacked, with Christian activists accusing Morsi loyalists of waging "a war of retaliation against Copts in Egypt".
The day's violence was the worst since the 2011 uprising that ousted president Hosni Mubarak, with an AFP correspondent counting at least 124 bodies in makeshift morgues in the Rabaa al-Adawiya protest site.
Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood spoke of 2,200 dead overall and more than 10,000 wounded.
The violence prompted vice president and Nobel laureate Mohamed ElBaradei to resign, saying he was troubled over the loss of life, "particularly as I believe it could have been avoided".
"It has become too difficult to continue bearing responsibility for decisions I do not agree with and whose consequences I fear," he said.
The dramatic assault on the sit-ins shortly after dawn surprised many, coming after officials had described plans to gradually disperse the sit-ins over several days.
The operation began with security forces firing tear gas before surging into Rabaa al-Adawiya, sparking pandemonium among the thousands of protesters camping there in opposition to Morsi's July 3 ouster by the military.
After the worst of the violence, many Morsi supporters were given safe passage out of the camp, some flashing victory signs as they left.
By Wednesday evening, a security official said Rabaa al-Adawiya was "totally under control", adding: "There are no more clashes".
In the smaller of the protest camps, at Al-Nahda square in central Cairo, police said they had control of the area after two hours.
Dozens rounded up in the dispersal were shown sitting on the ground, handcuffed and surrounded by security forces.
Authorities later said calm had been restored across the country.
Europe's leading powers, along with Iran, Qatar and Turkey, strongly denounced the use of force by the interim government.
The White House said Washington, which provides Egypt with $1.3 billion in annual military aid, "strongly condemns" the violence against the protesters and opposed the imposition of a state of emergency.
But Egypt's interim prime minister Hazem al-Beblawi praised the police for their "self-restraint" and said the government remained committed to an army-drafted roadmap calling for elections in 2014.
The Brotherhood urged Egyptians to take to the streets in their thousands to denounce the "massacre".
"This is not an attempt to disperse, but a bloody attempt to crush all voices of opposition to the military coup," spokesman Gehad al-Haddad said on Twitter.
Interior Minister Mohamed Ibrahim said no more protests would be tolerated, and in several neighbourhoods residents clashed with angry Morsi loyalists.
Clashes also erupted between security forces and Morsi supporters in the northern provinces of Alexandria and Beheira, the canal provinces of Suez and Ismailiya, and the central provinces of Assiut and Menya.
(In Alexandria, hundreds of angry Morsi supporters marched Wednesday through the streets armed with wooden clubs chanting "Morsi is my president" and tearing down pictures of army chief Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, who led the coup against Morsi.)
It was a dramatic turn of events for the Muslim Brotherhood, who just over a year ago celebrated Morsi's victory as Egypt's first elected president.
His turbulent year in power, marred by political turmoil, deadly clashes and a crippling economic crisis, turned many against the Islamist movement, with millions taking to the streets on June 30 to call for his removal.
Source : Sapa-AFP /pk
Date : 15 Aug 2013 09:45
techead
Honorary Master
Can someone please explain to me why they are burning Churches?
Isnt this a case of old traditional islam vs modernised islam. I dont get where Christianity comes into it?
Isnt this a case of old traditional islam vs modernised islam. I dont get where Christianity comes into it?
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Can someone please explain to me why they are burning Churches?
Isnt this a case of old traditional islam vs modernised islam. I dont get where Christianity comes into it?
1) The Muslim Brotherhood are ultra conservative (some say even radical).
2) The Egyptian army and pro-coup guys are considered "liberal".
3) All Westerners are liberals and perverts and part of the "Great Satan".
4) Christianity is a "Western Religion".
5) Therefore the army and pro-coup crowd must be in league with the Christians.
6) Burn the Churches!!!!
killadoob
Honorary Master
Can someone please explain to me why they are burning Churches?
Isnt this a case of old traditional islam vs modernised islam. I dont get where Christianity comes into it?
It is a case of secular islam(vice president gone), traditional islam and the saudis wabbism islam. You also have a camp that doesn't support morsi but does not support the military either. That is my take on it, not a fact or confirmed.
They are burning churches because they believe(US) are involved with the coup but they don't see it is actually the saudis and qatar were backing morsi. Morsi is actually less extreme than the saudis. The egypians better hope they don't get president who is a wabbist.
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techead
Honorary Master
Gees this is pretty screwed up... 
And here I thought the Muslim Brotherhood were the conservative ones, and the army were radical. This is the impression I have got over twitter in the last 24 hours...
And here I thought the Muslim Brotherhood were the conservative ones, and the army were radical. This is the impression I have got over twitter in the last 24 hours...
OrbitalDawn
Ulysses Everett McGill
Gees this is pretty screwed up...
And here I thought the Muslim Brotherhood were the conservative ones, and the army were radical. This is the impression I have got over twitter in the last 24 hours...
They are conservative and very parochial.
Also a possibility that Churches are just collateral damage in a bigger conflict, hard line Islamists taking their chance to target the 'enemy' etc.
techead
Honorary Master
and the coup was the army stepping in and removing morsi , right?
I dont understand how an army in a country can just remove the current government and say, "ok show is over, we are taking over"
perhaps Im missing a very large piece of the puzzle and need to go do some reading. I would like to understand the entire story from scratch (which I believe dates back to the original revolt in 2011)
I dont understand how an army in a country can just remove the current government and say, "ok show is over, we are taking over"
perhaps Im missing a very large piece of the puzzle and need to go do some reading. I would like to understand the entire story from scratch (which I believe dates back to the original revolt in 2011)
thestaggy
Honorary Master
Can someone please explain to me why they are burning Churches?
Isnt this a case of old traditional islam vs modernised islam. I dont get where Christianity comes into it?
The Copts (Egyptian Christians) have been getting their arses kicked for decades in Egypt for the usual reasons; religious intolerance. And seeing as the Brotherhood is largely conservative and predisposed to non-secularism, it is no surprise that the Copts got battered by them.
OrbitalDawn
Ulysses Everett McGill
Yes. He was trying to establish a constitution that would essentially have turned Egypt into an Islamic state and only appointed Muslim Brotherhood members to his cabinet. This was contrary to his promises and one of the goals of the revolution that deposed Mubarak.
techead said:
Why not? It happens a lot. Military Juntas taking over by means of a coup d'état. Generally this is disastrous, but interestingly enough, Turkey and Egypt are 2 examples where the army actually did it to aid the people. Both examples of Islamists overstepping their bounds.
techead said:
Nope, goes back waaaaaaay farther than that. Mubarak was an autocrat and a dictator, or in Egypt-speak, a "Pharaoh".
wikk3d88
Expert Member
The truth of the political situation under Morsi is a little more complicated than that.