Tick Tock - Is Koeberg next?

So from most of the posts here we have nothing to worry about?
I wouldnt worry.

. Yes it is unlikely there will be a Earthquake / Tsunami, but who can predict a disaster before it happens?

Erm common sense can predict we wont. We are smack in the middle of a tectonic plate. Hence why we dont have serious earthquakes... unlike Japan which is smack on a fault line. If we did experience a stronger earth quake it would most likely be for one of two reasons. A super volcano going off (like Yellowstone Caldera) or a meteorite hitting us. In either of those two cases nuclear leaks in Cape Town will be the smallest of your worries.

Point is that you can never entirely rule out a meltdown due to multiple malfunctions of safety devices and bad circumstances. Highly unlikely to happen, but it could.
Yup, so we learn how to make it safer.

I always thought nuclear was a good clean alternative, but is it worth the Risk? :confused:
More people die every year pulling coal outta our coal mines than in the entire history of nuclear power-station related deaths. Why would you wanna be so barbaric?
 
More people die every year pulling coal outta our coal mines than in the entire history of nuclear power-station related deaths. Why would you wanna be so barbaric?

It's a question of reputation.

Too much radiation will make you glow in the dark, or make you sterile, or make you grow an extra leg or turn into a ninja turtle. Coal just kills coal miners. Sometimes. Maybe. Personally, I don't spend much time in coal mines, so I wouldn't know.

But that radiation shĂ­t, man, that invisible junk could just come floating in through the window and make you flaccid for life! That's scary...

(Oh, and then there's that problem of nuclear waste. Haven't you ever watched The Simpsons? That stuff glows green...)
 
Well the USSR only managed to blow one of there's in almost 50 years. There reactors were of a far more dangerous design too.

Chernoby did not have a containment unit, the Japanese do. Of course, if that fails, it's not good.

The anti-nuclear nutjobs are coming out of the woodwork! :erm:

This anti-nuclear crusade is tiresome.

Indeed, I am suprised that they've been so quiet, but maybe it's early days yet.

I think any nuclear power station is safe, however, there is not much you can do about earthquakes and tsunamis. There are precautions that can be taken, I imagine, but they are not impervious to the whims of nature. As for Koeberg, I doubt that they are at risk for earthquakes or tsunamis, and they don't have complete dolts working there, so hopefully maintenance would not be an issue (except for maybe dropping nuts, but yeah).

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As for Koeberg, I doubt that they are at risk for earthquakes or tsunamis, and they don't have complete dolts working there, so hopefully maintenance would not be an issue (except for maybe dropping nuts, but yeah).

Koeberg is definately at a risk of an earthquake hence it has been designed to withstand the maximum possible earthquake for that region (calculated based on parametric-historic procedures) of magnitudes M 6.60±0.3 and peak ground accelerations of 0.27 g ±0.14.

The state of stress on the Milnerton fault is a key factor used to determine if rupture is imminent. A common view is that once an earthquake has occurred, stress is released on the fault. The fault will remain quiet until stresses in the earth’s crust have time to rebuild, typically over hundreds to thousands of years. It has been +200 years since the last big event associated with Milnerton fault so on probability, next event could happen almost any time. But then, it could also be another 1000 years before it happens. It is also arguable that last events associated with milnerton fault could have been caused by combination of fault-dyke intersections, tectnonic stress buildup and possibly hydrogeological aspects.
 
It's amazing how those comment on Koeberg's maintenance and running capacity don't even know where it is or how it's run, yet they know of every move$ent not even knowing where Koeberg is situated. Palimino anyone? :rolleyes: Hypocrites I say.
 
Indeed, I will make posters saying "MORE, MORE, WE WANT MORE!" with the radiation symbol underneath!

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Yeah (nuclear) POWER TO THE PEOPLE! And as for that fault-dyke, it reminds me of this dutch kid with a stinky finger and a black eye I once met - typical eurotrash - they the ones who hate nukes!
 
Just for the record, Koeberg isn't the only nuclear reactor in the country. Safari was commissioned in 1965.

"This research reactor at Pelindaba, SAFARI-1, is now the most commercialised nuclear reactor in the world with ISO 9000 accreditation and is earning South Africa millions of rands' worth of foreign revenue."

From Wiki. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Nuclear_Energy_Corporation)

If I lived in CapeTown, I would be more concerned with the effects of a Tsunami.

Correct, because Kooberg consists of two reactors ;)
 
Personally I do not think there could have been a greater advertisement for nuclear energy than the current Japan situation. I mean, an earthquake (one of the biggest in history, Japan's coast moved by 2.4 meters an the Earths axis was moved ten inches!) and then a Tsunami. And still no meltdown or any serious consequences? There is seriously nothing worse that can happen to a reactor except maybe a direct bomb hit, and I doubt even that would be worse than what already happened. Even our government isn't quite that bad....
 
Tokyo - Japan raced to avert a catastrophe on Wednesday after an explosion at an earthquake-crippled nuclear power plant sent radiation wafting into Tokyo, prompting some people to flee the capital and others to stock up on essential supplies.

The crisis escalated late on Tuesday when operators of the facility said one of two blasts had blown a hole in the building housing a reactor, which meant spent nuclear fuel was exposed to the atmosphere.

Prime Minister Naoto Kan urged people within 30km of the facility - a population of 140 000 - to remain indoors, as Japan grappled with the world's most serious nuclear accident since the Chernobyl disaster in Ukraine in 1986.

Officials in Tokyo - 240km to the south of the plant - said radiation in the capital was 10 times normal at one point but not a threat to human health in the sprawling high-tech city of 13 million people.

Toxicologist Lee Tin-lap at the Chinese University of Hong Kong said such a radiation level was not an immediate threat to people but the long-term consequences were unknown.

“You are still breathing this into your lungs, and there is passive absorption in the skin, eyes and mouth and we really do not know what long-term impact that would have,” Lee told Reuters by telephone.

Around eight hours after the explosions, the United Nations weather agency said winds were dispersing radioactive material over the Pacific Ocean, away from Japan and other Asian countries.

As concern about the crippling economic impact of the nuclear and earthquake disasters mounted, Japan's Nikkei index fell as much as 14 percent before ending down 10.6 percent, compounding a slide of 6.2 percent the day before. The two-day fall has wiped $620-billion off the market.

On Wall Street, stock in General Electric, the largest US conglomerate, fell nearly four percent on concern the crisis will cost it tens of billions of dollars in lost sales and potential legal costs or even liability over its nuclear technology.

Authorities have spent days desperately trying to prevent the water which is designed to cool the radioactive cores of the reactors from running dry, which would lead to overheating and the release of dangerous radioactive material into the atmosphere.

They said they may use helicopters to pour water on the most critical reactor, No. 4, within two or three days, but did not say why they would have to wait to do this.

“The possibility of further radioactive leakage is heightening,” a grim-faced Kan said in an address to the nation.

“We are making every effort to prevent the leak from spreading. I know that people are very worried but I would like to ask you to act calmly.” - Reuters

http://www.iol.co.za/news/world/japan-braces-for-possible-catastrophe-1.1042256
 
If it wasn't for them you would still be on candle power. :) Maybe?

Any government at the time would have progressed more than the nats. Thats like saying Germans should be grateful for Hitler because he built some roads. Im glad the old goons are gone, they were the sickest generation ever.
 
Goddamn people are ignorant.
Nuclear power reactors are the one of the safest in the world and gives us large supplies of electricity over conventional and polluting coal.
Theres a nuclear scare in Japan and now all of a sudden every reactor in the world is unstable?
 
Goddamn people are ignorant.
Nuclear power reactors are the one of the safest in the world and gives us large supplies of electricity over conventional and polluting coal.
Theres a nuclear scare in Japan and now all of a sudden every reactor in the world is unstable?

Germany has now shut down their 7 pre 1980 reactors for 3 months. Their previous government wanted to shut down all 17 reactors by 2021
 
Germany has now shut down their 7 pre 1980 reactors for 3 months. Their previous government wanted to shut down all 17 reactors by 2021

The reason being they were old and were supposed to be out of commission long ago
 
They're being shut down because of the scare. It remains to be seen whether it's permanent or just been done to appease the strong anti-nuclear lobby there. I'm sure Germany has strict emissions targets for the future that will probably necessitate those nuclear power plants are kept running for a while still
 
Goddamn people are ignorant.
Nuclear power reactors are the one of the safest in the world and gives us large supplies of electricity over conventional and polluting coal.
Theres a nuclear scare in Japan and now all of a sudden every reactor in the world is unstable?

I wonder how many people have died from cancer and other lung diseases due to the amount of toxic gases pumped into the atmosphere from coal or natural gas plants?

It's similar to a massive aircrash and suddenly people are harping on about the dangers of air travel little aware they have more chance of dying driving to work the next day.

Coal is dirty, green is cost prohibitive; only nuclear will ensure of cleaner future supply of electricity.
 
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