Tshwane is now a reality

Should Pretoria become Tshwane?

  • Yes

    Votes: 14 14.3%

  • No

    Votes: 83 84.7%

  • Unsure

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Total voters
    98
@ Vantage

hi vantage

apologies in advance for the lengthy post... :)

i see most people here seem to know you for your infamous posts... Ill be honest I havent seen you around, but I have read this thread from beginning to end, 3 times now and I have something to ask you.

Why are you so bitter? Or is it anger? :confused:

I dont agree with apartheid, it was wrong, but shall we not leave the past in the past? I dont have a problem with people of colour, regardless of black, indian, coloured.. etc etc In fact I have been involved with both a coloured girl and a muslim girl.

why am I telling you this? To explain to you MY standpoint, that Im not racist in any way. I was part of the previous generation, and was not raised like that. Everyone is = in my eyes.

Here is the problem though...

Over the past few years, the black youth seem to be growing more bitter? angry? And seem to be saying/doing things that are actually starting to get my back up. Julius Malema is a fine example of firing up the black youth, as he has been quite clear about his feelings to white folk. Why is he firing up everyone with all these feelings of hate and anger? He is only slightly younger than me so he should be in the same view as me... surely? I mean, he should be working on uniting us all... not building anger and hate?

People are easily swayed, we can all recall what Hitler managed to pull off. So more so are the young people of this country, and they really dont have the anger/bitterness of apartheid? Especially the young black teens? So they are looking at a leader, who is telling them to hate white people and live in the past... :(

I can understand why there might be anger and hate, but what is it going to accomplish?

anger and hate is really a black hole, which will only lead to death and destruction, surely? I just cant see anything good coming from it?

your thoughts mate?

cheers
 
vantage said:
If its one thing your World should know by now is that after all they have done to us , we are still around . Maybe they wanted to wipe us out like the red indians , but us Africans we are hardcore , we wont go down without giving a fight . They couldnt wipe us out when we had spears and shields , what makes u think they can wipe us out .
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Have you ever tried to remove roaches from a building?

Same thing, they breed like mice. You kill one and a hundred more come to his funeral. Best solution to everyone's problems would to have the blacks stay and live in Africa, send all the whites to Europe or America. Everyone has his own place in the world and then you have no minority or majority rule.

O and as for your "African's are hardcore" comment.....

Africans are hardcore for sure, look at the countries they rule and what has happened to it :D Just a shame that with that "Hardcore" attitude they wheren't given common sense too.

Wipping out Africa is pretty easy :D Killing a human being is easy, allot easier that hunting. But what purpose does that serve anyone? I'm just glad that out of every 1 Million Blacks in Africa, there is atleast 5 black South Africans that knows how the world works and want to work with the world and not against it. Just too bad you are not one of them, since you seem to have a little bit of an education behind you, you would have been able to do more for this country/world than my neighbour. But your lack of common sense makes you just another black dude :D
 
Nobody really worries , because they will wipe them all out by themselves. The Chinese have allready more than a half a Million in Africa. And now India also steps up.
So no change here. Doesnt bother many if it is Tshwane or Pretoria. Tshwane would be even better considering the state of the City.
 
Arko2 said:
Nobody really worries , because they will wipe them all out by themselves. The Chinese have allready more than a half a Million in Africa. And now India also steps up.
So no change here. Doesnt bother many if it is Tshwane or Pretoria. Tshwane would be even better considering the state of the City.
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Yes, I would prefer the rubbish-strewn streets to be an insult to the memory of the mythical chief Tshwane, rather than an insult to the memory of my home town.
 
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vantage, here's one just for you.....
 
Pitbull said:
Have you ever tried to remove roaches from a building?

Same thing, they breed like mice. You kill one and a hundred more come to his funeral. Best solution to everyone's problems would to have the blacks stay and live in Africa, send all the whites to Europe or America. Everyone has his own place in the world and then you have no minority or majority rule.

OD
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Thats what I am saying now pitbull . Thats what I am saying . I like you already .
 
vantage said:
who cares about that zapiro and his drawings . Why doesnt he start doing some real art , not that pencil and paper rubbish .
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vantage, I'd be more than happy to move to Europe, but will your government pay for it and also get a European passport for me on my behalf?

You see, it's not so easy going to Europe, since the Europeans don't see us white Saffas as Europeans. Which is strange, since all the black Saffas see us as Europeans...
 
timgaul said:
That's what they are, Native Americans. Rather use that term, thank you.
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As a matter of interest. Did you know American Indians / Native Americans are actually of Mongolian origins and even today their dialects and features reflect that fact... They crossed the Russian American straights (behring I believe) about 13000 years ago...
 
vantage said:
who cares about that zapiro and his drawings . Why doesnt he start doing some real art , not that pencil and paper rubbish .
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because a picture is worth a 1000 words..... and no matter how much you spin it, what lies in that picture, IS EXACTLY what you are doing...
 
EtienneK said:
vantage, I'd be more than happy to move to Europe, but will your government pay for it and also get a European passport for me on my behalf?

You see, it's not so easy going to Europe, since the Europeans don't see us white Saffas as Europeans. Which is strange, since all the black Saffas see us as Europeans...
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Why dont you start an organisation that deals in such issues . I would happily donate to the course .
 
vantage said:
Why dont you start an organisation that deals in such issues . I would happily donate to the course .
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Oh piss off now you racist troll. This country belongs to all of us, regardless of race. Go swallow a knife...
 
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