TurboFlo

[Fazda]

Amen

What amazes me is that after countless articles in Car magazine and the like, people continue to buy this rubbish...like the poor buggers who spend R200 a pop on detox pads for their feet!!

I will type this slowly....Y O U H A V E B E E N C O N N E D ! !

 

[mugs]

Fazda ,have you tested the product.

 

[Fazda]

Fazda ,have you tested the product.

No I haven't, but I have yet to find ONE of these gimmicks that actually work. Read about them in Car Magazine if you wish, and if you are desperate to part with your cash be my guest...it is your money after all...

 

[killadoob]

I bought one of these many many years ago from the turboflo website.

Still got it in my car, not sure if it saves fuel in all honesty but my car does get quite far on a tank of fuel.

www.turboflo.co.za

 

[mugs]

By the way I own Turboflo, thanks Killadoob for your honest report. Fazda, within the next two weeks you will see that one of South Africa's Motor Dealerships has approved Turboflo and intends installing them in all their vehicle's

 

[Fazda]

By the way I own Turboflo, thanks Killadoob for your honest report. Fazda, within the next two weeks you will see that one of South Africa's Motor Dealerships has approved Turboflo and intends installing them in all their vehicle's

That will be interesting and certainly a first! I look forward to the announcement

 

[Fazda]

I find the Testimonials interesting in their vagueness! Nobody is giving before and after figures, that I can find. Let them give us the actual figures so that we can work out this amazing improvement. I somehow doubt that I little "thingie" stuck between carb and aircleaner can do what millions of development kilometers couldn't do for the manufacturers.

Testimonials
A letter from Williams Hunt Delta Southdale:

"Williams Hunt Delta Southdale have fitted the Turbo-Flo fuel saving device to both fleet vehicles and some customer vehicles and found the fuel consumption is lower than before. Fleet vehicles consisted of Corsa (diesel/petrol), Astra and Isuzu (diesel/petrol). Turbo-Flo is fitted as an accessory to the vehicle's air filter system, and is not a modification that will effect your warranty. For any further references, please do not hesitate to contact Christo Du Plessis (Workshop Manager) Williams Hunt Delta, Southdale."

Mr. Christo Du Plessis - Workshop Manager - Williams Hunt Delta, Southdale

"After numerous tests done on both fuel injected and carburettor vehicles, I highly recommend the TURBO-FLO for fuel saving and additional power." Mr. Mike Fry - Service Manager - Hansie Roodt Motors (Nissan) Vereeniging



"A fleet of 60 Diesel Bread Delivery Vans, mainly 4 ton Turbo diesel Isuzu's are obtaining 10 - 15% fuel savings. On average these vehicle's do 100 km's per day with +/- 50 stops. The oil has been reported to be significantly cleaner at service."

Albany Bakery

"A large percentage of Benoni traffic department' vehicles have been fitted with TURBO-FLO'S for 18 months. Without exception all these vehicles are saving fuel and have increased power. I have no hesitation in recommending this product."

S/Supt. K. Jonker - Benoni Traffic Department - (011) 741-6543.

"Both my turbo diesel Mazda bakkie and Nissan diesel bakkie have been fitted with TURBO-FLO'S for three years. Not only is there increased power, but a diesel saving of 25% as well."

Mr. Dries Grobler - Sasolburg

"Since 1997 I have fitted BMWs, VW Golfs & Kombi's,Opel Corsa's and Toyota's with TURBO-FLO'S. All these vehicles are saving between 20 and 25% fuel and have additional power."

Mr. Vasie De Kock - Klerksdorp


I presume that the Dealer that Mugs is referring to is Williams Hunt...

 

[Stokstert]

I bought one of these many many years ago from the turboflo website.

Still got it in my car, not sure if it saves fuel in all honesty but my car does get quite far on a tank of fuel.

www.turboflo.co.za

What does that mean, "i get quite far on a tank of fuel"?

Without consumption figures this post is quite useless as many others in this thread.

 

[Fazda]

What does that mean, "i get quite that far on a tank of fuel"?

Without consumption figures this post is quite useless as many others in this thread.

Thank you Stokstert, that is the point I was trying to make above with the Testimonials. Unless you have concrete evidence with something like this it is all pie in the sky!

 

[Claymore]

By the way I own Turboflo, thanks Killadoob for your honest report. Fazda, within the next two weeks you will see that one of South Africa's Motor Dealerships has approved Turboflo and intends installing them in all their vehicle's

Say cheers to the warranty...

 

[The_Unbeliever]

I would like to see the following test :

4 cars of exactly the same make and model. Each car's fuel tank is drained completely empty, and filled with exactly 45l of fuel.

Two of the cars have Turboflo's fitted, whilst the other two doesn't have. Nobody knows which cars have the Turboflo's.

All the cars fuel gauges are disconnected/disabled.

All the drivers are instructed to drive as far as possible until the tank runs out of fuel. Because nobody knows which cars have the turboflos, and nobody can see their fuel gauges, they can't start to "economize" to cut down on fuel usage.

A recovery vehicle (bakkie with full jerrycans) also drive with.

This should be interesting to see...

 

[d0b33]

Snake oil salesman still doing well these days..

 

[Fazda]

I would like to see the following test :

4 cars of exactly the same make and model. Each car's fuel tank is drained completely empty, and filled with exactly 45l of fuel.

Two of the cars have Turboflo's fitted, whilst the other two doesn't have. Nobody knows which cars have the Turboflo's.

All the cars fuel gauges are disconnected/disabled.

All the drivers are instructed to drive as far as possible until the tank runs out of fuel. Because nobody knows which cars have the turboflos, and nobody can see their fuel gauges, they can't start to "economize" to cut down on fuel usage.

A recovery vehicle (bakkie with full jerrycans) also drive with.

This should be interesting to see...

The only way you could do that without outside factors playing a part would be to run the cars at a steady speed on a dyno...wouldn't even have to follow them with a jerry can then !

 

[Avatar_5]

That doesn't make sense. Air filters are designed so that the engine's not starved of air even funning full-throttle at max rpm. Supplying more air cannot make a difference - at a given rpm, each cylinder will take in a precise volume of air.

Supplying more air does make a difference - that's what turbo's and superchargers do. The amount of air entering the cylinder will depend on the pressure at the inlet, the higher the pressure, the more air enters.

 

[Frankie]

By the way I own Turboflo, thanks Killadoob for your honest report. Fazda, within the next two weeks you will see that one of South Africa's Motor Dealerships has approved Turboflo and intends installing them in all their vehicle's

Killadood's report may have been honest, but was it scientific - NO.

Why not name this "South Africa's Motor Dealership" that intends installing them in all their vehicles?
What is meant by "South Africa's Motor Dealership", is it one of the car manufacturers?

I also find it unlikely that these highly expert car makers cannot come up with the optimal air intake arrangement on their own, and save loads in royalty payments to someone like "Turboflo".

Could you imagine if we attached all these fuel saving gimmicks (weird spark plugs, fuel polarisers, oil additives, fuel additives, ....) to one car - it could end up with an astronomically good fuel economy, but I wonder why we haven't seen this yet

http://www.cracked.com/article_16484_6-retarded-gas-saving-schemes-people-are-actually-trying.html

http://www.ssl-spritsparen.eu/

http://www.moletech.com/moletech/

http://www.vorteccyclone.com/savegas.html?gclid=CMPfsKWV1JoCFQwxawodwiyx1g
If you fall for the sales pitch on this one, then you deserve to lose your money.

Gimmick Devices for Your Car

I have noticed that more and more people have come into the automotive repair shop where I work recently and they have asked me to install Gimmick devices on their cars that they have purchased on the internet. Most of these devices claim to increase fuel millage and performance. It is a fact that when economic conditions are poor these Gimmick products seem to crawl up from the sewers and people spend their limited resources on them. THESE DEVICES DO NOT WORK!!! Do not wast your money on them. If I developed a product that gave a care better milage and more horsepower, I would have no problem patenting it and selling it to the Automotive manufacturers! I would then be able to retire with the millions that they would pay me for my invention. I wouldn't have to flog it on the internet and on those sponsored TV shows on car enthusiasts channels. These products are only good for one thing. Making money for unscrupulous people. Do not fall victim to these marketing schemes! If these products worked the manufacturers would have them on their cars in a New York Minute!
Here is a link to a Dateline NBC show about a major scam!

You really want to save - change your driving habits !

 

[Fazda]

I could not agree more Frankie! Judging by the Testimonials, Williams Hunt will be fitting them to their cars, but again, having worked in the car business, that means absolutely nothing. Williams Hunt may well fit them to their cars, but they have nothing more altruistic in mind apart from filling their bank accounts with the profits.

When I was selling the first Corsas at Williams Hunt Bellville, the money the rep made on selling a basic Corsa was less than R200, where you did make money was slapping on every extra that you could think of from gearlocks to spoilers, and then adding a 200% or 300% markup.

There was also a clever little scheme at the time, whereby the cars were automatically given a special sealing polish, which the buyer HAD to pay for, as it was a case of "I am sorry sir, but the only car we can give you at the moment has had this polish done already"...of course that was utter rubbish, as the cars were usually sitting in the stockyard at the time, covered in dirt and grime after months of sitting outside the factory.

I have no doubt that Turbo Flow would then be simply added to the bill at cost plus xxx% and the salespeople will be laughing all the way to the bank!

 

[Frankie]

More on debunking these gimmicks/scams.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornado_Fuel_Saver

Most devices on the market are not found to improve fuel efficiency to any statistically measurable extent. Tests by Popular Mechanics confirmed that these types of devices yield no measurable improvements in fuel consumption or power, and in some cases actually degrade both power and fuel consumption.[1]

The external links on there also make a good read.



http://www.turboflo.co.za/content/view/34/47/

1) TURBOFLO CAN BE ATTACHED TO EITHER END OF THE AIR FILTER, AS PER PHOTO (A), USING DUCK TAPE AND CABLE TIES, AS SHOWN IN PHOTO (B). (TURBOFLO FITS EITHER WAY)

This is the duct tape with feathers.

4) THE CLOSER THE TURBOFLO CAN BE FITTED TO THE FILTER ENTRANCE, THE BETTER IT WILL WORK.

Note the they install it at the air filter inlet - the air filter element will totally diffuse the incoming air flow reversing the effect of the turbine gimmick.

2) WHERE THE AIR INTAKE PIPE IS ATTACHED TO THE MUDGUARD, IT MUST BE REMOVED COMPLETELY, AS THIS CAUSES AIR RESTRICTION.

I do not recommend removing the intake piping as they suggest here.

 

[killadoob]

Well frankie as much as my comments where honest and not based on anything concrete no doubt, i can tell you now that my car is very good on fuel and for a 1.4! fiesta that has done 180000km all of which i have put on so i would say it could be working.

I don't drive like a granny and i drive very aggressive so i think my fuel consumption is very good. The problem i find here is that turboflo has not been around for the last few months or since the world went to shyte, i bought mine very long ago dude maybe 3 years ago.

It is not like they asking for 1 or 2k but 300 bucks i mean it is really not a lot of money and should it work could say you money, the thing i find interesting is all the people who put it down having never used or seen it. I am not saying its the greatest thing since sliced bread but fadza you seem to be a skeptic so buy one and let us know how it goes.

 

[Frankie]

Well frankie as much as my comments where honest and not based on anything concrete no doubt, i can tell you now that my car is very good on fuel and for a 1.4! fiesta that has done 180000km all of which i have put on i would say it could be working.

I don't drive like a granny and i drive very agressive so i think my fuel consumption is very good. The problem i find here is that turboflo has not been around for the last few months or since the world went to shyte, i bought mine very long ago dude.

It is not liek they asking for 1 or 2k but 300 bucks i mean it is really not a lot of money and should it work could say you money, the thing i find interesting is all the people who put it down having never used or seen it. I am not saying its the greatest thing since slicest bread but fadza you seem to be a skeptic so buy one and let us know how it goes.

If you removed a section of the air intake pipework as instructed on their web site, then that is more likely to be a factor.

If your device is installed upstream of the air filter, then the filter is diffusing the flow totally negating the cyclonic flow introduced by the gimmick.

Respectable organisations have debunked these gimmicks, and the sale of them is prohibited in some places.



I don't see a "Satisfaction Guaranteed or you Money Back" in the conditions of sale
Terms and Conditions
http://www.turboflo.co.za/content/view/34/47/


Edit: I've never used heroin and know many others that haven't, yet we stand united in putting it down.

 

[The_Unbeliever]

The only way you could do that without outside factors playing a part would be to run the cars at a steady speed on a dyno...wouldn't even have to follow them with a jerry can then !

That will also work, but far more realistic fuel consumption figures can be obtained via a road test as I described above.

A dyno will be more for tuning any kind of engine for maximum power and low fuel consumption.

Besides, if you really want to lower your fuel consumption drastically, get a scooter/motorcycle, or use a bicycle