TurboFlo

With the amount of air my car requires - I think it'd suck this thing through the engine and out the exhaust...

Interesting to see your results Blue - If they positive, and substantially so, I'll consider one for my Hilux, gf is on my case about petrol costs.
 
BlueCollar said:
Fit it. Drive around. Compare figures over 3 months or so with my historical fuel consumption.
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Then send it to me :) I know my Hilux does not get more than 450km per tank - it never has over 6 years... very reliable test :p
 
xrapidx said:
Then send it to me :) I know my Hilux does not get more than 450km per tank - it never has over 6 years... very reliable test :p
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Actually makes sense to perform the test on a number of different vehicles. I'll also be posting the results on GreenCars.
 
BlueCollar said:
Fit it. Drive around. Compare figures over 3 months or so with my historical fuel consumption.
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Maybe someone here on MyBB has or knows someone who could help with a dyno. This could establish a more scientific result. I have an exhaust analyser for carbon tests if needed.
 
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Could the mods sticky this while we wait for the results. Realy intresting read this.
 
If you care to go into Turboflo"s website www.turboflo.co. za, you will see a report from EKURHULENI Municipality re: emmission tests and also a reducting in fuel. Turboflo also has reports from the U.K. and SA on emmission tests
 
Stokstert said:
Maybe someone here on MyBB has or knows someone who could help with a dyno. This could establish a more scientific result. I have an exhaust analyser for carbon tests if needed.
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Where are you based? Makes sense to analyse emissions before fitment of the turboflo too right?
 
I'm a skeptic when it comes to this type of thing... I don't see it working, if anything I see it actually increasing fuel consumption.
 
If it was so revolutionary, it would be installed in all cars as standard. These type of claims are very hard to prove/disprove and they know it.

I doubt whether a municipality allows any endorsements of commercial products. I would send them the ad for their comment, with a copy to Wendy Knowler.
 
Stokstert said:
Maybe someone here on MyBB has or knows someone who could help with a dyno. This could establish a more scientific result. I have an exhaust analyser for carbon tests if needed.
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Dynos don't measure fuel consumption, so a dyno test may well be meaningless.
 
mugs said:
If you care to go into Turboflo"s website www.turboflo.co. za, you will see a report from EKURHULENI Municipality re: emmission tests and also a reducting in fuel. Turboflo also has reports from the U.K. and SA on emmission tests
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I refuse to take any report using "Sir!" as a salutation seriously. Even if I ignore that, and the very bad grammar, I have trouble seeing the correlation between exhaust density and emission reduction if the mass flow rate isn't taken into account. The turbo-flo is supposed to work on an increase in the amount of air coming in, so even if the exact same amount of carbon came out at the other end, the density of emissions should decrease.

Claymore said:
Dynos don't measure fuel consumption, so a dyno test may well be meaningless.
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Correct, what you'd need to test this thing is an Engine Test Stand. With one of these you can get the power, torque, and fuel consumption, and specific fuel consumption vs. engine rpm. If a before and after test on one of these show positive result, I'll reconsider my stance on the turbo-flo. Until then, I'm not buying it.
 
CrzWaco said:
Could the mods sticky this while we wait for the results. Realy intresting read this.
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Or you can subscribe to it... ;)

ToxicBunny said:
I'm a skeptic when it comes to this type of thing... I don't see it working, if anything I see it actually increasing fuel consumption.
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Same here.

Avatar_5 said:
I refuse to take any report using "Sir!" as a salutation seriously. Even if I ignore that, and the very bad grammar, I have trouble seeing the correlation between exhaust density and emission reduction if the mass flow rate isn't taken into account. The turbo-flo is supposed to work on an increase in the amount of air coming in, so even if the exact same amount of carbon came out at the other end, the density of emissions should decrease.

Correct, what you'd need to test this thing is an Engine Test Stand. With one of these you can get the power, torque, and fuel consumption, and specific fuel consumption vs. engine rpm. If a before and after test on one of these show positive result, I'll reconsider my stance on the turbo-flo. Until then, I'm not buying it.
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What I agree with.

First the hard proof.

EDIT : the engine running in the engine test stand also have to use an air filter in the exact same configuration as it would do in a vehicle's engine bay...
 
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Claymore said:
Dynos don't measure fuel consumption, so a dyno test may well be meaningless.
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Yeah, you may be partly right, but it helps to do tests at certain loads which are repeatable for the before and after results. I did not say only a dyno is needed, but guys who have dynos normally also have engine analysers and consumption/fuel flow meters. That is why I said I can contribute an exhaust analyser if no other instruments are available.

It wasn't mentioned as an all inclusive. :p
 
mugs said:
If you care to go into Turboflo"s website www.turboflo.co. za, you will see a report from EKURHULENI Municipality re: emmission tests and also a reducting in fuel. Turboflo also has reports from the U.K. and SA on emmission tests
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Why don't you post a few clear macro photos of it? Only far away, illegible photos are posted.
Because than everyone could see that it's only a fluted ring of plastic. Anyone who has an old CPU fan could try the test by fitting the fanblade over the inlet hole of their air cleaner.
The price and package size should also be an indication of the performance. If it could reduce your fuel consumption by 20+%, it would sell for thousands of rands. But for R250 no-one will do the hassle to confront the manufacturer and just chuck in the bin.
 
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