Two speeding bikers caught on N1

So you would let a loved one die because you are driving Miss Daisy? "Sorry hun, but the speed limit is 60. See if you can stay alive a wee bit longer. I don't want to get a speeding fine". I hope we are not related and I never have to rely on you!

EDIT: In fact, it would seem you are the selfish one here

He's talking about limiting a vehicle to be unable to drive more than 140, not strictly adhering to speed limits in certain zones. There's a difference.
 
My friend lost her fiancee who rushed his sister to hospital. He died and his sister still lives. So much for the emergency. The reality is that it is illegal to speed.

Maybe because he crashed it the ambulance got to her faster than if he drove to the hospital and therefore he saved her love by having an accident? It's very circumstantial.

And the reality is that even at legal speeds there are often dangerous situations that aren't appropriate even at the legal speeds.

It's all about being situationally aware and taking appropriate action.

I'm not saying these guys weren't being idiots, I don't know the roads. What I am seeing is that I see people doing stupid **** at perfectly legal speeds each and every day, while these okes could have been clocking these high speeds without putting anyone one in more danger than regular idiots and regular speeds.

Let's not judge everyone as "murderers" for a recorded event by a strategically places camera with the primary purpose of catching people with their pants down.
 
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He's talking about limiting a vehicle to be unable to drive more than 140, not strictly adhering to speed limits in certain zones. There's a difference.

Which hardly solves the problem because someone can still do 140 in a 60 zone.

Which is exactly what will happen.
 
Do we honestly need to have this debate every time someone has been caught for speeding?
 
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If it is going to hit you, let it be at 200 km/h or 100 km/h, your car will still be damaged.

Car damage should be the least of your worries. Let's do a fun activity.

Two people are sitting at a red light. One is rear-ended by a guy doing 100 and the other is rear-ended by a guy doing 200. Which is more likely to be seriously injured?

Hint: It's not the first guy.

we will have an issue, as emergency vehicles need to get to the emergency in sufficient time.

Oh, because if we install speed limiters on vehicles it means it is impossible to make certain vehicles exempt from this. All vehicles will have to have the device installed, no exceptions. :rolleyes:
 
Which hardly solves the problem because someone can still do 140 in a 60 zone.

Which is exactly what will happen.

But it does solve the problem of people doing 180+ on national roads while there are other motorists all around them. And this happens often. Take the N1 from Paarl to Cape Town and count how many BMWs, Audis and Mercedes come speeding past at speeds in excess of 180. It's ludicrous that our country has reached a point where people think that just because their vehicles can achieve those speeds, they're justified in driving like that.
 
He's talking about limiting a vehicle to be unable to drive more than 140, not strictly adhering to speed limits in certain zones. There's a difference.

I understand that. As a rule I stick to the limits as far as possible, but if my friends/family need medical care urgently, no speed limit is going to stop me from getting them the care the need (obviously to an extent where I don't endanger others).
 
I am well aware.

Have done pretty high speeds on the track and I won't lie on the roads in my youth.

This the comments specifically to having a kilometer or more of visibility.

Precisely why I said it's still safer than doing 120km/h around blind sections of some parts of our highways.

Did you even bother reading my post?


Why so defensive? I once hit a pig that walked out of the grass onto the N1, with a car thank goodness. It felt like a brick wall. Read my first post. I have done many a stupid thing on a bike when I was young. It is nothing to be proud of. I am in complete agreement about driving blind without slowing down.
 
But it does solve the problem of people doing 180+ on national roads while there are other motorists all around them. And this happens often. Take the N1 from Paarl to Cape Town and count how many BMWs, Audis and Mercedes come speeding past at speeds in excess of 180. It's ludicrous that our country has reached a point where people think that just because their vehicles can achieve those speeds, they're justified in driving like that.

Strange I never see these people on the same roads.

Is your speed guess-o-meter maybe broken?

140-160 maybe, "in excess of 180" pretty much never.
 
Why so defensive? I once hit a pig that walked out of the grass onto the N1, with a car thank goodness. It felt like a brick wall. Read my first post. I have done many a stupid thing on a bike when I was young. It is nothing to be proud of. I am in complete agreement about driving blind without slowing down.

+1
 
But it does solve the problem of people doing 180+ on national roads while there are other motorists all around them. And this happens often. Take the N1 from Paarl to Cape Town and count how many BMWs, Audis and Mercedes come speeding past at speeds in excess of 180. It's ludicrous that our country has reached a point where people think that just because their vehicles can achieve those speeds, they're justified in driving like that.
+1
 
We just need harsher sentences, like a year in jail, for speeding.

Why not?
 
What is a safe speed on the highway?

I'm of the opinion 120km/h is a little too low and 140km/h is probably a better figure
 
What is a safe speed on the highway?

I'm of the opinion 120km/h is a little too low and 140km/h is probably a better figure

Unfortunately your opinion is not the law which stipulates 120km/h - no matter how slow we may think that may be.
 
I understand? - I'm just throwing it out there in general what people think and instead of a new thread, using this speed related thread
 
Do we honestly need to have this debate every time someone has been caught for speeding?

An emphatic yes. Until we all drive / ride responsibly it needs to be repeated ad nauseum. Apologies.
 
Yeah.. Pigs will fly before that happens.

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