Tyre Woes

Although I completely agree with your statement about all tyres not being made equally, using a UK site for tyre reviews for South African buyers doesn't really help anyone.

There idea of a "summer tyre" is pretty much good enough for our winters.

Why not? Conditions aren't actually that much different unless you go to the north of England. Anyway it was to illustrate a point about not all tyres being equal, not to recommend a particular brand or tyre.
 
Although tyres did not reinvent the wheel, it is however an engineered masterpiece, no tyre is equal and to each their own tyre technology.

AA release:

http://www.aa.co.za/about/press-room/commentary/is-your-vehicle-tyre-safe.html

Is Your Vehicle Tyre Safe?

Motorists are failing to check the condition of their tyres, which could have fatal consequences.

One of the most important safety features any vehicle can have is a good set of tyres. Tyres play a vital role in vehicle performance, handling and safety. Your tyres carry the full weight of your vehicle, while at the same time providing all of the grip for acceleration, steering and braking.

Unfortunately, the importance of good tyres in maintaining vehicle safety is often overlooked or taken for granted. Tyre faults are noted in half of all fatal crashes where vehicle defects are a contributing factor.

Guidelines for choosing and maintaining your tyres:

  • No tyre is perfect for all driving conditions. When choosing tyres, you should select those which best suit your vehicle and the kind of driving you will be doing.
  • Long-life tyres made of hard components usually last longer than softer tyres, but may not grip as well. A tyre with a big “footprint” (the surface area of the tyres which makes contact with the road) will provide a good grip in dry conditions. In wet conditions it may have trouble removing water from the road surface and may not grip as well.
  • Mixing tyre types can interfere with driving control. Having tyres of different size and/or construction fitted to the same axle is both dangerous and illegal.
  • The only part of a tyre to wear under normal use is the tread. Retreading is a means of extending the life of a worn but otherwise good tyre. Quality retreads can provide an alternative to fitting new or used tyres. Light vehicle tread must comply with an approved standard. Some experts discourage the use of retreads if a vehicle will be driven at substantial high speeds or in high performance situations.
  • Ideally, replacement tyres should be renewed in sets of four, to maintain constant vehicle handling and responses. If this is not possible, tyres should at least be replaced in pairs on the same axle.
  • Car manufactures recommend replacement tyres be the same type as the originals fitted, to maintain all round driving performance.
  • No matter how well a tyre is made, how long it lasts, and how well it performs depends largely on how it is treated. Taking good care of your tyres means safe driving, routine tyre inspections and changing the wheels around - tyre rotation, to help ensure that they wear out evenly.
  • Correctly balanced wheels will ensure smooth and vibration-free running and improve tread life, as well as extending the life of the vehicle’s suspension and steering components.
  • Having your tyres inflated properly could save your life and will certainly save you money. Under-inflated tyres will increase fuel consumption, while too much inflation can mean an uncomfortable ride and reduced grip.
  • Both under-inflation and over-inflation will cause your tyres to wear out prematurely. Under-inflation causes premature wear on the edges, while over-inflation causes the centre to wear out.
  • Correct tyre pressure is vital for balanced breaking, good handling and long tyre life. The inflation of all tyres - including the spare should be checked once a month, while the tyres are cold.
  • Good tyre tread is necessary to maintain road grip, especially in wet weather.
  • Standards require tyres to have treadwear indicators in the tread pattern to show when the tread depth is less than 1.6mm. In most cases, if the tread on the tyre is level with these indicators, the tyre should be replaced.
Well maintained tyres will hold your vehicle securely on the road, allowing it to stop, start and manoeuvre safely. Worn out, incorrectly inflated or unsuitable tyres may not. For your own safety and that of others, your tyres must be in good condition, properly maintained and appropriate for your vehicle.
 
Because I don't know Kumho (it's just my naivity that is stopping me from getting them not the brand)

Guess I will skip on the hankooks

LOL all others say Hankook is good, one oke says it is crap cause he "slipped" and now u off Hankooks. Once again, good luck

Hankook
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Hankook/Ventus-V12-evo-k110.htm

Toyo T1
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Toyo/T1R.htm

Pirelli PZero Nero
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Pirelli/PZero-Nero.htm

Do not go by what one guy said, go read up a bit more... Your choice
 
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LOL all others say Hankook is good, one oke says it is crap cause he "slipped" and now u off Hankooks. Once again, good luck

Hankook
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Hankook/Ventus-V12-evo-k110.htm

Toyo T1
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Toyo/T1R.htm

Pirelli PZero Nero
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Pirelli/PZero-Nero.htm

Do not go by what one guy said, go read up a bit more... Your choice

Slipping at 185kms/h is no joke. Not had that with other brands.
Before the flame wars start - it was years ago. I barely go over 130 now.
 
Seriously though, Fifth Gear did do a test on various quality tyres and you would be surprised at the stopping distance difference. ABS does help and if you are cheap like me its does not matter.
 
Slipping at 185kms/h is no joke. Not had that with other brands.
Before the flame wars start - it was years ago. I barely go over 130 now.

I can safely say that that has never happened to me. And what kind of slipping are we talking about here. Assuming that your car didn't just slip whilst you were going straight? Also was it on a dry road, or a wet road? Might have aqua planed? Cars do not just slip because of speed on a straight road. But anywho...
 
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LOL all others say Hankook is good, one oke says it is crap cause he "slipped" and now u off Hankooks. Once again, good luck

Hankook
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Hankook/Ventus-V12-evo-k110.htm

Toyo T1
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Toyo/T1R.htm

Pirelli PZero Nero
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Pirelli/PZero-Nero.htm

Do not go by what one guy said, go read up a bit more... Your choice



Actually the reason I took them off is cause of the price, they are very similar to some Michelins I was quoted on and I can't see how Hankooks are better than Michelins ...

At that price point why settle for a slightly worse tyre.

I am either going to save around R1000 per tyre and get something semi decent or I am going to get Michelins
 
For me Dunlop walls were very thin. Had a puncture at speed on the freeway and prone to bubbles on the walls, Michelin and the like last very long but I prefer the softer Firestone and Bridgestones due to their wet weather grip and road hazard guarantee.
 
Slipping at 185kms/h is no joke. Not had that with other brands.
Before the flame wars start - it was years ago. I barely go over 130 now.

And the chances are you were doing it wrong and ANY tyre would have slipped in that same situation.

Tyres can't defeat the laws of gravity either you know.
 
* Both under-inflation and over-inflation will cause your tyres to wear out prematurely. Under-inflation causes premature wear on the edges, while over-inflation causes the centre to wear out.

This is a fallacy.

Severe under inflation would obviously put all the weight on the sidewalls and they would collapse.

However a normally (manufacturer recommended) inflated tyre pressure and an "over inflated" one will wear exactly the same on any modern tubeless tyre. In fact if I remember correctly you can put something crazy like 18-bar into a normal car tyre before it pops.

You want your tyres adequately inflated or even slightly over inflated to give the best grip and protect the sidewalls. And you want your suspension to provide the comfort, that's what it's designed for, not your tyres.

I can only imagine this nonsense comes from the old days of tubed tyres where it makes a kind of sense that the tube would push the tyre in a rounded shape when overinflated. This obviously doesn't apply to a tubeless tyre that seals on the rim and will simply hold the same shape the more you inflate it.

When we did the Audi High Performance driving course and the Continental rep bloke told us all of this they actually recommend using the highest pressure listed in your manuals/petrol cap for a fully laden wagon for normal operational use.

As such I've been running my car on 260 KPA for the past year and a bit on all fours and never had a problem.
 
What did you put on?

I was using Michelin 255/35/19 on my cab at R5,200 a pop. I discovered Toyo T1 Sports at R2,400 each. I can't tell the difference between the 2. Curious what you got.


Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2's - 235/35/19's. Read the reviews online and you might be impressed ;)
 
Seriously though, Fifth Gear did do a test on various quality tyres and you would be surprised at the stopping distance difference. ABS does help and if you are cheap like me its does not matter.

Like these lap times?

[video=youtube_share;GSIfuZoaFOk]http://youtu.be/GSIfuZoaFOk[/video]
 
The only value for me is they last longer, the Dunlops on my Corsa is what the car came with and I have given it some hard driving over the last 3.5 years / 42,000km. Might have to replace it next year. Roadstone/Hero/Intenza and other cheap brands don't last that long with me, but that's ok, they do the basic job of rotating.
 
The only value for me is they last longer, the Dunlops on my Corsa is what the car came with and I have given it some hard driving over the last 3.5 years / 42,000km. Might have to replace it next year. Roadstone/Hero/Intenza and other cheap brands don't last that long with me, but that's ok, they do the basic job of rotating.

Here is your mentioned video on braking:

[video=youtube_share;CiQnbLWiw4c]http://youtu.be/CiQnbLWiw4c[/video]
 
Very interesting video:

[video=youtube_share;e2c9Ry0JfMw]http://youtu.be/e2c9Ry0JfMw[/video]

Budget tyres = Less time on earth
 
That is not a fact, as I said I drive budget tyres and they have never let me down.
What is a fact is that Premium Tyres = Less money in the bank

The bolded part is correct, but a good tyre set can possibly prevent an accident due to braking and manoeuvring time. All what you are telling everyone here is that according to your remarks on budget tyres are that you are experienced enough so that even budget tyres will never let you down, which is proved otherwise in the 5th gear video.

All the video's I posted states this, even this consumer report:

[video=youtube_share;0yYd-Boh56M]http://youtu.be/0yYd-Boh56M[/video]
 
I am not arguing that a good tyre could possible prevent and accident, because it can, potentially... What I am saying is that they are sometimes priced so much more than legal and cheaper alternatives that its not worth it. Obviously if you have a car that does not have at least ABS you should get the best tyre around.
 
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