Ubuntu to challenge Mac

Rouxenator said:
Ah - ok - I understand (I think). Just because that is the only why you can get a computer I now have to use the same criteria so that we have a level playfield ? Perhaps you should zoom out a bit and see what I mean with alternatives. You can actually buy everything you need to make a decent PC locally - so there is no need to order it from Dell in the US.
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I never meant order a PC from Dell US - I meant compare other PC retailers prices to Apples and note that they are competitive. The reason I chose the US is that Apple has no official presence here and as such the scum that are Core can rip off everyone.

Building your own PC from parts is not a valid comparison. If you cannot see why I cannot help you.
 
Okay turds and toads..I think all of u floundering fish mongering left a bad smell in my nose...that said let me start of by saying that Ubuntu is officially the god of Os's. Seriously, everything from the console straight through to emerald themes. It's the OS that says "define me,bend me.twist me..aka customize the shizz out of me"...and why do I like Ubuntu more than other distro's ? Cause U fricken monkey nad grazer the documentation on hardy heron is uber superior to so many other distro's.
Okay look not going to say OS'X is inferior..never used it before...only played with it for like 5 minutes then I got bored by the interface. But I do know this..If u are fagnus the idiot who is still stuck sucking on uncle Bill's Os tit, then I hope u see the light..cause remember..microsoft gives u windows..linux gives u the whole house
 
MichaelJohn said:
Just get the migration from Windows or Apple less complicating and things will move in Ubuntu's favour. Get simple things like syncing with iPod & Outlook as well as music player that resembles Media Player or iTunes and once again, they are well on their way.
I hope they do as competition is going to be good forthe market.
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iPod sync + iTunes = Amarok :)
Outlook = Evolution (Not perfect, but a start) or Thunderbird + Lightning (Getting there)

More than anything else, it is the general perception of Linux that needs to be changed. That can be helped along by an enhanced interface/look&feel. I say go for it.
 
icyrus said:
Building your own PC from parts is not a valid comparison. If you cannot see why I cannot help you.
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If you can explain that statement perhaps I will understand your point of view. Why is it not the same if the end result is the same ?

Let me put it this way, you need a device on which you can do stuff, like work, play, surf pr0n, make stuff and so on. Whether you buy it directly from the US and pay loads of shipping, tax and import duties on it or if you hand pick the parts from your local dealer/shop and build it - in the end you get a device that can do the work at hand.

With Ubuntu's focus on the UI it is another step in this direct where you will get an excellent computing experience for a fraction of the price (you would pay going the apple route).

Still, I am open to accept new POVs so if you want to explain anything I might be missing feel free to do so and I will try my best to comprehend.
 
Raithlin said:
iPod sync + iTunes < Amarok :)
Outlook = Evolution (Not perfect, but a start) or Thunderbird + Lightning (Getting there)

More than anything else, it is the general perception of Linux that needs to be changed. That can be helped along by an enhanced interface/look&feel. I say go for it.
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With one minor change, I agree with you. :)

MichaelJohn, this stuff exists and ubuntu* is well on its way.

*and many other linuxes, ubuntu is just the one under discussion.
 
Will Shuttleworth also hire developers to write apps like
Final Cut Pro and Shake for Linux?

Some of us use MacOSX for more than the pretty icons.
 
PeterCH said:
Will Shuttleworth also hire developers to write apps like
Final Cut Pro and Shake for Linux?

Some of us use MacOSX for more than the pretty icons.
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Both of them are *nix based so it should not be that hard to port....
 
NP. Just throwing them out there - the point being that there is alternative software (I'm just not sure how good. ;)).
 
Nod said:
Here is a pretty good list of solutions for Video, Audio, modeling, etc:
http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/2008091312364896/Graphics.html
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So these apps will provide me with ...

1. Consistent user friendly interface chosen by most professionals in the field.
2. Connectivity options to various 3rd party capture boards, HD encoders,
external monitors, decks and video cameras using industry standard interfaces.
3. Powerful gfx rendering engine.
4. Powerful 3rd party plugins for visual effects and transitions.
5. Intuitive workflow.
6. Support the latest industry standard file and video formats eg
XDCAM HD, DVCPro HD etc.
7. Allow me to edit HD, SD, PAL, NTSC, Progressive and Interlaced
material all on the same timeline.
8. Provide the Apple ProRes codec which offers the best compression/quality
ratios out there.
9. Have courses, books, video and online tutorials available.
10. Tried and tested, designed by professionals and used by the likes of BBC and CNN.

Final Cut Pro Studio 2 is all that and for a mere R10K.
 
w1z4rd said:
IBM doesnt sponsor RedHat?... Novell/Microsoft are not involved in SUSE? I was under the impression a large number of huge corporations have being sponsoring OSS for many years.
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Yea.. they have, but they're in it for profit. With Shuttleworth it's more like he is personally donating money to the cause. - I may be wrong here of course, but as far as I know he does not generate any profit from it.

The other difference is that groups like RedHat didn't just appear out of nowhere, they were mostly regular OSS developers/freaks who figured out how to turn a profit out of their "hobby".

I suppose the real question here is whether Shuttleworth simply went out hunting for the best OSS developers and is simply paying them to work on their stuff full time, or whether he is paying just any developers regardless of their interest/commitment in/to OSS. The article made me think the latter.
 
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