Uncapped ADSL acceptable use policies compared

Garyvdh said:
My uncapped account is NOT contended or shaped and has no draconian FUP.
I pay more for it, but at least I can do what I want with the line and not worry about all the crap that these FAKE uncapped accounts dish out.
Way to go OpenWeb! :D
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Openweb = IS as far as I know. You must forking out a small fortune here...
 
Agreed about Openweb the best solution by far. I've been having issues recently, but I also have had the benefit of Mr Beep looking into an endeavouring to resolve the problem.

None of these pre-canned responses from a call centre/support agent - that is only interested in closing the support call.

Openweb for the Gold Standard Uncapped provider.
 
McGuywer said:
I am using Mweb and have not received a single warning from them. Doing in the 100GB's per month.
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Just a question to see if things have changed on mweb.

Do they still shape the hell out of one click hosts ? Can you still only receive full line speed on torrents and usenet downloads after midnight until 6.00 or so in the morning ?

Kick off one torrent (on a 4mb line between 8.00 and 10.00 in the evenin) and you find your line running at 384k speeds becomes disabled - pages time out and you can't even browse.

No thank you - I am not interested in an after hours uncapped account - so not unless things have changed with mweb then I will stick with openweb.
 
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ingeon said:
Why is openweb never mentioned when comparing ISP`s on mybb articles :confused:
Are they to small fry? I`m with them and it`s interesting to know how they rate against the others.
Always time to evaluate in-case one needs to move
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was with them a while they ok'ish but sadly they run on IS backbone and IS top 20% throttling kills any internet

EDIT: if they using different backbone dunno then. also i have been with mweb uncapped for a while now and dl from 7 to 9 Gig a day apparently webafrica also has a new package but i don't like their FUP
 
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M-web limits outgoing e-mails to 200 e-mails per hour on business uncapped although they do specifically not mention the 200 messages per hour rate limit in their FUP. Sending an e-mail to 10 people counts as 10 e-mails.
 
inferno said:
Ignore this guy. He keeps telling people the Telkom one uses the IS network. Everyone with a brain knows that Telkom has the largest capacity network in SA. She makes Mweb look like a kid in a skirt.

So far on the Telkom feedback thread, they have had only good things to say as no one is shaped.
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bull, where did i say that? everyone telkom lies even worse than the other isp's

I said don't bother with telkom OR any other ISP on IS IS throttles your connection to nothing when you in the top20% , i have been there with axxess
 
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Mweb's FUP has been good so far, at least to me. I have the 1mb uncapped shaped account and average 100 to 150gb a month. No warning or any other messages/emails from them.

Torrent's download full speed after hours and drops to about half line speed during office hours.

I've experienced a rolling window product before and that plainly sucked. You download one thing that's just a little bigger then the limit and you get "punished" for the rest of the day or week.

It's nice now for example if you want to download a 10gig game from steam, no problem you let it rip without the worry that when it's done you can't properly play online or other family members will experience a throttled connection when they want to do something.

Even though Mweb, Openweb and Telkom might not have very clear set out FUP's the real world experience seem to be the best for the price.
 
r00igev@@r said:
Here is what goes into providing uncapped:

- International IP transit with tier 1 provider
- International hosting space a international exchange point
- International cross connect charges at international exchange points
- International submarine cable charge
- International and local cross connect charges at landing stations
- Redundant international submarine cable charge
- Local backhaul bandwidth charges
- Redundant local backhaul bandwidth charges
- Local IP transit charges with the local bandwidth cartel
- Local bandwidth charges to connect to the local bandwidth cartel
- Local hosting space at local exchange points
- Local cross connect charges at local exchange points
- Local bandwidth charges to local exchange points
- Local hosting space for ISP core
- Redundant local host space for ISP core
- Bandwidth charges to interconnect core
- Bandwidth charges to connect to broadband access medium
- Broadband access medium charges
- ISP core equipment and maintenance charges
- ISP transmission equipment and maintenance charges
- ISP access equipment and maintenance charges
- ISP customer provisioning charges
- ISP customer service charges
- ISP billing charges
- ISP collection charges
- ISP customer acquistition and marketing charges
- ISP staff charges
- Stakeholder revenue and investment return
- Regulatory taxes and charges

(and maybe something else that I have overlooked...)

If you estimate what each of the charges are for 1 Mb/s, add them all together, then you have the true cost of 1 Mb/s uncapped. AND IT IS NOT A COUPLE OF HUNDRED BUCKS. The only way to make it affordable is an AUP. However, the AUP must be crystal clear!
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You left out a number of important additions, but the most important (and expensive) is the IPC link between ISP network and Telkom's DSL infrastructure. IPC often costs more than the ISPs local and internation transit combined.
 
With 1MB - Telkom has been tops so far - I have yet to be throttled.
 
TJ99 said:
They will all boot you off the network if you do something illegal. That's what the FUP means. Duh.
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Using ports/technology available to you is not illegal - duh.... maybe you can point us to the exact law, with your obviously far superior knowledge of our legal system?

I'd also like to know how they know you're doing something illegal - if its against the law to monitor what you do?
 
xrapidx said:
Using ports/technology available to you is not illegal - duh.... maybe you can point us to the exact law, with your obviously far superior knowledge of our legal system?

I'd also like to know how they know you're doing something illegal - if its against the law to monitor what you do?
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Illegal in the context of the FUP, not the law. Don't be pedantic, you know what he means.
 
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