US Election 2020 - Pt 2

[CaptainOblivious]

To this day you still can't comprehend the difference between the legal definition of "collusion" and "participating and enabling".

This is the last I will say on the topic cause it is clear that you will choose to never understand.

Also if you don't like the report conclusions then tell that to the Republican Senators that wrote it. Tell them they have TDS or whatever.

There is zero evidence that Trump knowingly got together with the Russians to do anything. Clinton participated and enabled Russians interfering with the elections, according to your definition. Why don't you cry about her some more and demand senate reports and special counsels and what have you to find out whether she should be sanctioned?

 

[surface]

He clearly said "I'm Jill Biden's husband"

I heard covfefe

 

[CaptainOblivious]

Did the Bi-Partisan Senate committee just make this up?


Is it a theory, when it gets confirmed as below?

Why doesn't this comment refer to the way Hillary Clinton compromised the intergrity of the election by inserting Russian disinfo all over the place with the FBI, State department etc. etc. etc. ?

 

[konfab]

Since this is a tech forum, thought this might be interesting. Didn't know as many as 42 million Americans are without access to broadband. That's really shocking for a superpower!

Just remember that the US is a massive country.


You also have to look at whether it is feasible or not. Some areas might simply not have the population density to justify a heavy spending. And its not as if people are sitting without internet:

Also didn't know that Trump is not a supporter of net neutrality...telecommunications businesses should not be in the business of dictating what content can frow freely and what cannot.

Trump is correct with this. It is wrong for the government to dictate to private businesses how they do their job. The whole Net Neutrality debate unsurprisingly sits at a fundamental misunderstanding of how markets work. We were told by everyone that the Internet would pretty much stop working the moment NN is ended:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/968525820410122240

Thankfully, markets don't work the way economically illiterate socialists think they do:

The average download speed in the U.S. is up 24 percent. And that’s just the average. Download speeds are up almost 140 percent in Illinois, 90percent in Georgia, 74 percent in Ohio, 60 percent in Pennsylvania, 50 percent in Florida, 33 percent in Texas, 20 percent in California, and 6percent in Virginia. Not every state is a winner. New Jersey’s average speed is down 14 percent, New York’s 30 percent, and North Carolina’s 43percent. But, overall, the internet in the United States is significantly faster, not significantly slower, as doomsayers predicted.

And what about price?

If the internet simply had not gotten worse, the 24 percent speed increase would have been accompanied by a 24 percent price increase. But the average price of residential internet service is down from last year. The price didn’t even keep pace with inflation.

And what of Cher’s prognostication that repealing net neutrality would result in fewer Americans having internet access? The number of internet users in the United States is up more than 1% from last year. That’s not much, but it’s twice the size of the increase in the number of people in the U.S. over the same period.

https://www.insidesources.com/a-net-neutrality-prediction-that-was-a-bust/

Think about this:
Would you rather have a private company that can go bankrupt if it doesn't provide a good service manage your internet, or the government, which cannot even run a post office effectively.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[AlmightyBender]

We were told by everyone that the Internet would pretty much stop working the moment NN is ended

Always with the dramllama strawman representations of the argument of the side that you are in opposition to. Always.

You are smart and articulate enough to not have to rely on this crutch and instead argue the true position of the opposition, which I'm pretty sure you are well aware of.

 

[borro]

 

[konfab]

Always with the dramllama strawman representations of the argument of the side that you are in opposition to. Always.

You are smart and articulate enough to not have to rely on this crutch and instead argue the true position of the opposition, which I'm pretty sure you are well aware of.

I see we are at the stage when quoting what the Democrats literally say is a strawman argument...

The true position of the opposition is that they want the government to control the internet because they don't view the free market as an effective means of distributing resources.

And I might add, that Trump's position on the infrastructure is just as wrong for exactly the same reasons. The government will always do worse than the market for providing pretty much any service other than protecting individual rights.

 

[greg0205]

Since this is a tech forum, thought this might be interesting. Didn't know as many as 42 million Americans are without access to broadband. That's really shocking for a superpower! Also didn't know that Trump is not a supporter of net neutrality...telecommunications businesses should not be in the business of dictating what content can frow freely and what cannot.

Where Donald Trump and Joe Biden Stand On Key Broadband Issues - BroadbandNow

As the 2020 election draws closer, here is a detailed look at where every presidential candidate stands on popular broadband issues.

broadbandnow.com

Infrastructure week.

Any minute now it'll be Infrastructure week. Again.

Any minute now...

Any minute...

 

[AlmightyBender]

I see we are at the stage when quoting what the Democrats literally say is a strawman argument...

The true position of the opposition is that they want the government to control the internet because they don't view the free market as an effective means of distributing resources.

And I might add, that Trump's position on the infrastructure is just as wrong for exactly the same reasons. The government will always do worse than the market for providing pretty much any service other than protecting individual rights.

"We were told by everyone" part of the quote is actually the most problematic and is the biggest contributor to your statement being an overly dramatic strawman. You take the view of a single actor and represent it as the collective view. Cherrypicking is the term. It is lazy.

 

[Gnarls]

"We were told by everyone" part of the quote is actually the most problematic and is the biggest contributor to your statement being an overly dramatic strawman. You take the view of a single actor and represent it as the collective view. Cherrypicking is the term. It is lazy.

More revisionist dishonesty. It was a whole lot more than a single actor

 

[Unhappy438]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1295930780321898496

Jesus, you guys posting some hardcore fake news like its going out of fashion.

 

[cerebus]

This IS the worst timeline and don't try to convince me otherwise:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1295932138290917376

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Infrastructure week.

Any minute now it'll be Infrastructure week. Again.

Any minute now...

Any minute...

Both parties talk about infrastructure alot - the actual investment and improvement however, leaves a lot to be desired.

 

[Gnarls]

Great ad.
Back when Joe was young.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1294298598885036033

When dinosaurs ruled the earth.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Left outraged by AOC's bit role at Democratic convention

The fact she was given only 60 seconds to speak was taken as a slight by progressives.

www.politico.com

Err...maybe because internal polling suggests AOC might actually be an electoral liability? AOC's faction is a small minority within the Democratic House delegation (and thus far only elected in solid Democratic districts...perhaps should try her brand of radical socialism in a swing district?), has only a few Senators (perhaps only 2-5 senators), and lost the Democratic presidential nomination twice, the 2020 race given up far earlier than 2016 one. It's curious she thinks the suburbs - long a stronghold of Republicans -are swinging towards Democrats because of her and not, as is clearly the case, the current President.

 

[CaptainOblivious]

"We were told by everyone" part of the quote is actually the most problematic and is the biggest contributor to your statement being an overly dramatic strawman. You take the view of a single actor and represent it as the collective view. Cherrypicking is the term. It is lazy.

If you're not going to offer your own nuanced view, you don't get to complain that people are picking apart the less nuanced alternatives that have been presented thus far.

The problem here is that you're opening your mouth without actually taking a position one way or the other, and simply criticising @konfab 's behaviour. If you're not going to put up, rather shut up entirely. These low-effort ad-hominems convince nobody but the choir, preacher.

 

[Gnarls]

If you're not going to offer your own nuanced view, you don't get to complain that people are picking apart the less nuanced alternatives that have been presented thus far.

The problem here is that you're opening your mouth without actually taking a position one way or the other, and simply criticising @konfab 's behaviour. If you're not going to put up, rather shut up entirely. These low-effort ad-hominems convince nobody but the choir, preacher.

**** off and honour the bet Xarog.

/s

 

[C4Cat]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1295563537599864834

100% correct

 

[buka001]

This IS the worst timeline and don't try to convince me otherwise:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1295932138290917376

I see your quoted tweet and I raise you with this one.

Where are the libertarians?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1296092859226042368