US Election 2020 - Pt 2

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[rietrot]

I see your quoted tweet and I raise you with this one.

Where are the libertarians?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1296092859226042368

Do you understand what libertarianism is?

 

[konfab]

You take the view of a single actor and represent it as the collective view. Cherrypicking is the term.

Oh the irony.
The entire progressive ideology is built on that principle.
Employ a black person in a company and now they are diverse because black people are all the same according to 'nuncle Biden.
One police officer does an objectively despicable act and the entire police force is racist.

It is lazy.

I have never said I wasn't lazy

I am curious now, what is your position on net neutrality?

 

[CaptainOblivious]

I see your quoted tweet and I raise you with this one.

Where are the libertarians?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1296092859226042368

Cute.

Before I begin to address your concerns, I would like to establish one point first. You think that this sort of behaviour by Trump, insofar as he is expressing a personal opinion and not actually taking official political action, is wrong, correct?

 

[CaptainOblivious]

100% correct

Aha, another NotRealMarxism Marxist. Well, at least you're up front about your hostility to capitalism.

 

[buka001]

Do you understand what libertarianism is?

Libertarians believe that all people have the right to freely offer goods and services on the market and that free-market approaches are the most effective at improving people’s lives

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Libertarians believe that the only proper role of government in the economic realm is to protect property rights, adjudicate disputes, and provide a legal framework in which voluntary trade is protected.
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The Economy | Libertarian Party

Libertarians believe that all people have the right to freely offer goods and services on the market and that free-market approaches are the most effective at improving people’s lives. Our current economy is more crony capitalist than it is free, and that is responsible for the majority of...

www.lp.org

Right to freely offer goods ...

Free market ...

Everything that Trump is suggesting in that tweet flies in the face of those principles.

 

[konfab]

I see your quoted tweet and I raise you with this one.

Where are the libertarians?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1296092859226042368

Laughing.

 

[rietrot]

The Economy | Libertarian Party

Libertarians believe that all people have the right to freely offer goods and services on the market and that free-market approaches are the most effective at improving people’s lives. Our current economy is more crony capitalist than it is free, and that is responsible for the majority of...

www.lp.org

Right to freely offer goods ...

Free market ...

Everything that Trump is suggesting in that tweet flies in the face of those principles.

Free market works both way. If a business goes woke people can freely choose not to shop there.

They played politics first.
The state didn't do anything. No legislation or governmental action. If it was Obama the IRS would probably be investigating them as we speak.

 

[buka001]

Free market works both way. If a business goes woke people can freely choose not to shop there.

They played politics first.
The state didn't do anything. No legislation or governmental action. If it was Obama the IRS would probably be investigating them as we speak.

Of course.

But a President, who is the head of the government telling people to boycott a company, because it hurt his feelings, contradicts the Libertarian view of what role government should be playing in this.

 

[CaptainOblivious]

Of course.

But a President, who is the head of the government telling people to boycott a company, because it hurt his feelings, contradicts the Libertarian view of what role government should be playing in this.

You realise that a president expressing a personal opinion does not count as an official act, right?

 

[konfab]

The Economy | Libertarian Party

Libertarians believe that all people have the right to freely offer goods and services on the market and that free-market approaches are the most effective at improving people’s lives. Our current economy is more crony capitalist than it is free, and that is responsible for the majority of...

www.lp.org

Right to freely offer goods ...

Free market ...

Everything that Trump is suggesting in that tweet flies in the face of those principles.

...And the right to choose goods.

Trump is asking his followers to not buy Goodyear tyres.

Don’t buy GOODYEAR TIRES - They announced a BAN ON MAGA HATS. Get better tires for far less! (This is what the Radical Left Democrats do. Two can play the same game, and we have to start playing it now!).

Now then, since you are now so concerned about consumer choice and the government wanting to force people to buy a product, lets talk about the US government's monopoly on postal services.

The USPS is often mistaken for a state-owned enterprise or government-owned corporation (e.g., Amtrak) because it operates much like a business. It is, however, an "establishment of the executive branch of the Government of the United States", (39 U.S.C. § 201) as it is controlled by presidential appointees and the postmaster general. As a government agency, it has many special privileges, including sovereign immunity, eminent domain powers, powers to negotiate postal treaties with foreign nations, and an exclusive legal right to deliver first-class and third-class mail. Indeed, in 2004, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in a unanimous decision “The Postal Service is not subject to antitrust liability. In both form and function, it is not a separate antitrust person from the United States but is part of the Government, and so is not controlled by the antitrust laws.” Sherman Antitrust Act.[89] Unlike a state-owned enterprise, the USPS lacks a transparent ownership structure and isn't subject to standard rules and norms that apply to commercial entities. The USPS also lacks commercial discretion and control.[90]

TIL that the US Post Office has f__king eminent domain powers . But really the real abuse of state power is Trump asking people to do something on Twitter.

 

[rietrot]

Of course.

But a President, who is the head of the government telling people to boycott a company, because it hurt his feelings, contradicts the Libertarian view of what role government should be playing in this.

What Trump should really do is forbid all branches of US government to use Goodyear with an executive order.

 

[boramk]

You realise that a president expressing a personal opinion does not count as an official act, right?

What big arms you have, from moving the goal posts all the time

 

[CaptainOblivious]

What big arms you have, from moving the goal posts all the time

How did I move the goalposts? I can only conclude that you don't understand what libertarianism is.

 

[TysonRoux]

What big arms you have, from moving the goal posts all the time

Don't feed the Xarog troll

 

[scudsucker]

**** off and honour the bet Xarog.

It is an indictment on yourself that you are not calling Xarog out for failing to follow the terms of the bet. He chose to accept the terms, including the term that the loser would leave and not return with a sockpuppet account.

 

[konfab]

What Trump should really do is forbid all branches of US government to use Goodyear with an executive order.

What is more, he should do it in support of Michelin because they have a body-positive logo.

 

[CaptainOblivious]

What is more, he should do it in support of Michelin because they have a body-positive logo.

The NYTimes would have a piece out declaring a war on obesity before the Sun was down.

 

[TysonRoux]

Fox News’ Chris Wallace Explains Why Trump’s Latest Election Claim Is ‘Troubling’
Wallace commented on Trump’s claim that “the only way we’re gonna lose this election” is if it’s rigged.

Fox News’ Chris Wallace Explains Why Trump’s Latest Election Claim Is ‘Troubling’

Wallace commented on Trump's claim that "the only way we’re gonna lose this election" is if it's rigged.

www.huffpost.com

Fox News’ Chris Wallace described President Donald Trump’s latest attempt to cast doubt on the 2020 election as “troubling.”

Trump on Monday told supporters during a rally in Wisconsin: “The only way we’re gonna lose this election is if the election is rigged.”

On Tuesday’s broadcast of “America’s Newsroom,” anchor Sandra Smith asked Wallace what Trump’s claim told him “about what we could see and hear over the next couple of months from the president.”

“Well, look, the president obviously is going to make the case for himself and make the case against (Democratic nominee) Joe Biden,” Wallace replied. “But this is troubling and he did it in my interview with him, I guess, three weeks ago, he has done it repeatedly before and since.”

“The argument that if he loses, it’s because the election was stolen from him, not because of a majority of Americans voted against him. You know, obviously one of the things that we treasure in this country is the peaceful transition of power,” explained Wallace.

“I’m not saying Joe Biden is going to win and Donald Trump is going to lose. But if that should happen ― and there’s certainly a possibility that it will ― one would hope that whoever wins, whoever loses, that both sides will agree that was the judgment of the American people and they’re going to abide by it.”

“So it is an argument that, as you say, President Trump made in 2016,” Wallace concluded. “Of course, he didn’t have to make it after the election because he did win. But he’s raising that specter again for 2020.”

 

[buka001]

...And the right to choose goods.

Trump is asking his followers to not buy Goodyear tyres.



Now then, since you are now so concerned about consumer choice and the government wanting to force people to buy a product, lets talk about the US government's monopoly on postal services.



TIL that the US Post Office has f__king eminent domain powers . But really the real abuse of state power is Trump asking people to do something on Twitter.

Oh you attribute too much.

I know his tweet is meaningless, as it is not an actual policy or law etc.

If however, the share price drops because of this call to action from Trump, is that not an issue for the free market?

Anyway, it is just a nice tweet to see how the free marketers react to it.

Argh my gawd the Postal Service! Have you heard about this other US government entity, called the US Military? $800 billion plus budget. The way the money flows with corruption and the bond they have have with the MIC is like water flowing down the Amazon.