US Election 2020 - Pt 2

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lumeer

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Humanity will be at a crossroads on 3 November. One path will lead to happiness, the other to misery.
 

Gnarls

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What are you guys talking about. Of course Joey B gives interviews. Haters gonna say it's not a serious interview.

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TysonRoux

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Trying to please her Orange Fuhrer.

Susan Collins Caught Shadily Sabotaging U.S. Postal Service


Maine’s Republican Senator Susan Collins is one of those who helped sink the Postal Service’s finances in the lead-up to the current crisis, as a new report from Washington Monthly explains. She was one of the main backers of George W. Bush-era legislation that demanded that the Postal Service prepay health benefits for retirees “according to a 50-year schedule, starting with 10 years of statutorily prescribed payments of roughly $5 billion from 2007 to 2017,” as PolitiFact explains. David Partenheimer, a spokesperson for the Postal Service, told PolitiFact that “the pre-funding requirement included in the 2006 law is a major reason for our financial situation, along with an outdated business model” — and, again, it’s Sen. Collins who helped impose that requirement for the Postal Service to set aside billions of dollars every year.

‘In 2005, [Collins] sponsored and introduced legislation, the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act (PAEA), that required the USPS to pre-pay the next 50 years worth of health and retirement benefits for all of its employees—a rule that no other federal agency must follow. As chair of the Senate oversight panel at the time, she shepherded the bill’s passage, along with her House GOP counterpart Tom Davis, during a lame-duck session of Congress. It passed by a voice vote without any objections—a maneuver that gave members little time to consider what they were doing.’
 

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Don't rely on politicians for happiness. Live your own life and create value for yourself, you will thrive whatever the political weather.
Well said. Just tell that to the desperate people Trump kicked off food stamps. Or the political prisoners in China and North Korea. :p
 

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Your arms must also be getting huge.
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If you think that the definition of free speech is: "People get to say what they want without any consequences and everybody must enable them to say it in all forms and forums", then I'm afraid you don't understand the concept of free speech at all.

Freedom of speech[2] is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or legal sanction. The term "freedom of expression" is sometimes used synonymously but includes any act of seeking, receiving, and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used.
 

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Humanity will be at a crossroads on 3 November. One path will lead to happiness, the other to misery.
Looking at the polls, I'm not certain of Trump's defeat in November.

Please change my mind.
You were a fan of trump; then you were not; then you started again; then you stopped. Do you really need our help to change your mind?
 

AlmightyBender

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From your own source:
Freedom of speech and expression, therefore, may not be recognized as being absolute, and common limitations or boundaries to freedom of speech relate to libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, food labeling, non-disclosure agreements, the right to privacy, dignity, the right to be forgotten, public security, and perjury. Justifications for such include the harm principle, proposed by John Stuart Mill in On Liberty, which suggests that: "the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others."[4]
 

CaptainOblivious

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From your own source:
Ah yes, and conveniently you determine the political opinions you dislike to be harmful. Notice, however, that political opinion isn't actually one of the "common limitations" in the list. However, Marxists typically feel no qualms about trying to silence their political opponents.

So if the shoe fits...
 

buka001

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Another marxist happy for a company to tell them what their beliefs should be.
Note how only the "Marxists" of the forum have actually directly criticised Trump for telling the free market how to operate, where as the free market adherents have fleeted, skirted and danced around the subject with none of them saying Trump should shove his opinions.

Oh Trump should be more diplomatic.

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CaptainOblivious

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Note how only the "Marxists" of the forum have actually directly criticised Trump for telling the free market how to operate, where as the free market adherents have fleeted, skirted and danced around the subject with none of them saying Trump should shove his opinions.
The Marxists are the ones mischaracterising the events and claiming that Trump actually tried to tell the free market how to operate and simultaneously turning a blind eye to the very behaviour they would criticise Trump for. But then this is the sort of doublespeak one comes to expect from Marxist apologists.
 
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