US Election 2020 - Pt 2

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Pegasus said:
You are defending workplace discrimination in one thread and complaining about racial discrimination in another.

And you’re creating some sort of straw man as to what you reckon I am defending. Not sure where you get that from.
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I wish you would read more :)

You could tell from what I've said here I don't agree with discrimination based on political views. Racial is even worse though I know you probably don't think so.

By the way, I'm a huge capitalist if you can't tell and turns out the left has those.
 
CaptainOblivious said:
I would generally favour political orientation being added to the list of protections listed in the civil rights act.
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Agreed.

CaptainOblivious said:
Either you're in favour of protections or you aren't, which is it?
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It's not hard man. I'm in favour of protections - you should not be fired for your political views. If a company decides to ban a certain type of clothing, they have the right to since they are a private entity. If that includes political clothing then so be it.

You see the important distinction is that I can choose not to wear a MAGA hat. I can't choose not to be black or gay or a woman.
 
boramk said:
Agreed.


It's not hard man. I'm in favour of protections - you should not be fired for your political views. If a company decides to ban a certain type of clothing, they have the right to since they are a private entity. If that includes political clothing then so be it.

You see the important distinction is that I can choose not to wear a MAGA hat. I can't choose not to be black or gay or a woman.
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Who says you can choose your political beliefs? Evidence actually indicates the opposite.

journals.plos.org

Disgust Sensitivity and the Neurophysiology of Left-Right Political Orientations

Disgust has been described as the most primitive and central of emotions. Thus, it is not surprising that it shapes behaviors in a variety of organisms and in a variety of contexts—including homo sapien politics. People who believe they would be bothered by a range of hypothetical disgusting...
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Banning clothing would have to be in terms of general application in order to be valid, i.e. all hats or all clothes with slogans, not just MAGA hats. If the criterion of unacceptability is political, then you can't say you're in favour of regulations yet say it's a free market because that's a double standard.
 
Chris_the_Brit said:
Goodyear - just another gift to Trump. So does Goodyear endorse looting, rioting and violence as that is the only thing BLM is good at?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1296097719736569857
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You appear confused. Trump endorses looting, rioting and violence.

Chris_the_Brit said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1296111292827283462

GY blocked replies to the tweet. Hmmm...
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So Trump pushing culture war garbage based on fake images? Colour me unsurprised. Just as I'm unsurprised that his supporters don't care that it's fake.
 
buka001 said:
Note how only the "Marxists" of the forum have actually directly criticised Trump for telling the free market how to operate, where as the free market adherents have fleeted, skirted and danced around the subject with none of them saying Trump should shove his opinions.

Oh Trump should be more diplomatic.

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Seems pretty simple - companies should cater to their political and cultural preferences to qualify for freedom of speech and association. If not, they should be retaliated against, including in an illegal way by the most powerful political office in the country.
 
CaptainOblivious said:
Who says you can choose your political beliefs? Evidence actually indicates the opposite.
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Anecdotally it happens. I went from super right wing, like legitimately had specific views about specific races to a moderate left wing person.

CaptainOblivious said:
Banning clothing would have to be in terms of general application in order to be valid, i.e. all hats or all clothes with slogans, not just MAGA hats. If the criterion of unacceptability is political, then you can't say you're in favour of regulations yet say it's a free market because that's a double standard.
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Trust me, totally get where you're getting at, and thanks, this was an interesting thing to think about.

You can't fire someone for wearing a turban, that's religious discrimination. I mean literally part of their religion requires a certain garb for being a Sikh right? If a company, let's say Patagonia specifically forbids MAGA hats - your political view doesn't require you to wear a MAGA hat or any article of clothing in fact.

So you can identify as a Sikh and wear and turban or as a Muslim and hear a hijab at work, is tied to the article of clothing and is protected. If I identify a dog and wear a furry costume to work, obviously the company can have a policy against wearing furry onesies. That's their right to enforce a dress code.
So if Patagona, a left leaning company decides to ban MAGA hats, as a private entity they have right to do so in practicing their political beliefs. I do see it in the same vein as as Goya or Equinox, or Chick-fil-a a couple years ago, companies should be allowed to exercise support for a political candidate or have views on homosexuality etc. You should just expect the ramifications though the free market.
 
‘The Lincoln Project’ Releases Wednesday Morning Masterpiece

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'The Lincoln Project' Releases Wednesday Morning Masterpiece

President Donald Trump is continuing to face a steep tide of opposition heading into November. This Wednesday morning, the anti-Trump Republican group known as The Lincoln Project released a new video ad calling on Americans to join the fight to defeat Trump. As of Wednesday morning around the...
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President Donald Trump is continuing to face a steep tide of opposition heading into November. This Wednesday morning, the anti-Trump Republican group known as The Lincoln Project released a new video ad calling on Americans to join the fight to defeat Trump. As of Wednesday morning around the time of the video’s release, Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden (whose nomination became official on Tuesday night) led Trump by an average of 7.6 percent in national-level polls, according to RealClearPolitics, and his lead has been remarkably stable — it’s been at seven percent or above for most of the past about two and a half months.

In the caption for their new video, The Lincoln Project said:


‘We celebrated after WWII. We mourned after 9/11 until we could laugh again. We will not allow the weakest president in our nation’s history to crush this spirit. We will defeat this enemy, too — and smile while doing it.’
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In the video itself, narrators say:


‘We will defeat Trump — we can. We must. We will begin anew, as America always does. We will heal, recover, and rebuild. We will go forward, together. This is the fight to which we are called. This is the battle of our generation — join us.’
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Check out the video below:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1296047094579388417

We celebrated after WWII. We mourned after 9/11 until we could laugh again. We will not allow the weakest president in our nation’s history to crush this spirit.

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buka001 said:
It is like everyone forgot that Trump's twitter has been declared as "official statements",by his Department of Justice.

www.washingtontimes.com

DOJ: Donald Trump’s tweets are ‘official statements of the President’

The Department of Justice is treating President Trump’s frequent Twitter posts as official statements, attorneys for the government wrote in a new federal court filing.
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This goes all ways as well. Just the other we were still debating if Twitter should be allowed to censor official statements by the president of the US.
 
Gnarls said:
Is he a wizard? It's also his personal twitter account. Additionally, I didn't even know about it till the wokeys brought it up here.
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The US Department of Justice ruled that Trump's twitter feed constitutes official statements. So they are not viewed as "personal opinions".
 
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