US Election 2020 - Pt 2

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konfab

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TDS is so strong with me that since I’m not sure which garden is which, I’m unable to respond.

If Melania’s is the colourful garden my response would be : “what’s with all the vibrant colours? That’s so gaudy. Can she not be more elegant and understated? Why Dutch tulips? Can she not find a more American flower?”

If Melania’s is the other, “That’s so drab and dreary. Is it a reflection of her life with Donald? Completely unimaginative and lacking any creativity”
I actually don't think they have that much input on the garden's design.
If you look at this page, it hasn't really changed that much.

http://www.whitehousemuseum.org/grounds/rose-garden.htm
 

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I should probably turn down the sarcasm this early in the morning. :p
So here is the thing. After reading & watching lots on this topic, I don't click on the link which says 'Look how our president donated to paraplegic society in year Nineteen voetsek'

It is same reason why I don't click on 'Here is irrefutable proof that earth is flat or here are ponderer's 7 scientific reasons where he completely refutes theory of evolution'

Saves me some time.
 

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TDS is so strong with me that since I’m not sure which garden is which, I’m unable to respond.

If Melania’s is the colourful garden my response would be : “what’s with all the vibrant colours? That’s so gaudy. Can she not be more elegant and understated? Why Dutch tulips? Can she not find a more American flower?”

If Melania’s is the other, “That’s so drab and dreary. Is it a reflection of her life with Donald? Completely unimaginative and lacking any creativity”

/enter triggered trumpets
 

konfab

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TDS is so strong with me that since I’m not sure which garden is which, I’m unable to respond.

If Melania’s is the colourful garden my response would be : “what’s with all the vibrant colours? That’s so gaudy. Can she not be more elegant and understated? Why Dutch tulips? Can she not find a more American flower?”

If Melania’s is the other, “That’s so drab and dreary. Is it a reflection of her life with Donald? Completely unimaginative and lacking any creativity”
I actually don't think they have that much input on the garden's design.
If you look at this page, it hasn't really changed that much.

http://www.whitehousemuseum.org/grounds/rose-garden.htm
 

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However, I am going to snidely remark that the whole point of the remodelling might have been to put in that solid pathway - as Melania's tottering heels were probably giving her problems on the grass.
From what I understand, the limestone pathways serve a dual purpose. One, they meet ADA requirements for accessible design and two, wires and outlets for electric needs are hidden beneath the new border, as Trump liked to hold press meetings in the garden. The updated design therefore includes features for audio and visual capabilities, for lighting and access for television cameras.
 

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From what I understand, the limestone pathways serve a dual purpose. One, they meet ADA requirements for accessible design and two, wires and outlets for electric needs are hidden beneath the new border, as Trump liked to hold press meetings in the garden. The updated design therefore includes features for audio and visual capabilities, for lighting and access for television cameras.
Aaaarrghh...poor garden!
 

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Oh right, you are one of those who think that the Alien and Predator films are really subliminal representations of white supremacy. You see, you have to believe it in order to see it.



https://theconversation.com/how-hol...tor-movies-reinforce-anti-black-racism-127088

I have the same amount of contempt for that arguement as I have for creationists.
On second thought that whole word study thing is actually quite misleading.

It strips the context out. Breitbart probably also has an increase in such words since it started.

Those charts are like Conservative porn. The author wants to go back to the way things were. The less we talk about issues the better.
 

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On second thought that whole word study thing is actually quite misleading.

It strips the context out. Breitbart probably also has an increase in such words since it started.

Those charts are like Conservative porn. The author wants to go back to the way things were. The less we talk about issues the better.

Trying to correlate an increase in selective identity politics buzzwords with the divisions in American culture. It's methodologically farcical.
 

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On second thought that whole word study thing is actually quite misleading.

It strips the context out. Breitbart probably also has an increase in such words since it started.
The fact that people are attaching meaning to stupid concepts like whiteness isn't an indication of any meaningful progress.

Lets take a (hopefully) objectively stupid concept like expropriation without compensation. If you did this type of word study in South Africa, you would see a similar sort of increase in it. The very fact that people are discussing it is a problem.

You don't see it being an issue because your worldview sees it as a good thing to attach a moral value to someone's skin colour.


Those charts are like Conservative porn. The author wants to go back to the way things were. The less we talk about issues the better.
No it isn't.
If you saw a chart stating that the number of articles talking about the "Jew problem" was increasing, you wouldn't say it was conservative porn.
 

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The fact that people are attaching meaning to stupid concepts like whiteness isn't an indication of any meaningful progress.

Lets take a (hopefully) objectively stupid concept like expropriation without compensation. If you did this type of word study in South Africa, you would see a similar sort of increase in it. The very fact that people are discussing it is a problem.

You don't see it being an issue because your worldview sees it as a good thing to attach a moral value to someone's skin colour.



No it isn't.
If you saw a chart stating that the number of articles talking about the "Jew problem" was increasing, you wouldn't say it was conservative porn.
Context. There is absolutely no context. Hence, the choice of words selected are like big lights for conservative moths.
 

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Trying to correlate an increase in selective identity politics buzzwords with the divisions in American culture. It's methodologically farcical.
How about academic scholarship, which is where these buzzwords come from?

Lets have a look shall we?
The aim of Gender, Place and Culture is to provide a forum for debate in human geography and related disciplines on theoretically-informed research concerned with gender issues. It also seeks to highlight the significance of such research for feminism and women's studies. The editors seek articles based on primary research that address: the particularities and intersections of gender, race, ethnicity, age, (dis)ability, sexuality, class, culture and place; feminist, anti-racist, critical and radical geographies of space, place, nature and the environment; feminist geographies of difference, resistance, marginality and/or spatial negotiation; and, critical methodology.
"Gender, Place and Culture is a very high quality journal, one that is advancing original scholarship in the critical arenas of feminist geography and feminist interdisciplinary work. The journal foregrounds theoretically-informed debate on gender issues bringing together human geographical research with that from a range of related disciplines, including Women's Studies, Sociology, Cultural Studies and Anthropology. I enthusiastically recommend it."
https://www.tandfonline.com/loi/cgpc20

Founded in 1994.

Lets have a look about what these people were writing about 26 years ago:
During the 1980s, men's bodies began to appear with increasing frequency in television, cinema and billboard advertising. The advertisers’ preferred image of masculinity has generally been young, white, able‐bodied and staunchly heterosexual. This paper explores a partial exception to these generalisations: Ogilvy & Mather's highly successful relaunch of the soft drink, Lucozade. By using selected images of black male bodies and their popular associations with sporting and sexual prowess, Lucozade was able to shake off its long‐established associations with sickness and convalescence, becoming a popular ‘in‐health’ drink with a revitalised and revitalising image. The paper places contemporary representations of black men in British advertising in relation to wider changes in attitudes towards gender, sexuality and ‘race’, arguing that the success of the Lucozade campaign depended not so much on general associations between sport and ‘race’, manliness and muscularity, as on the reader's (socially constructed) knowledge of the particular personalities represented. This assumed knowledge effectively suppresses the more threatening aspects of a stereotypically anonymous and rapacious black male sexuality, provoking desire without evoking dread.

https://doi.org/10.1080/09663699408721200

There is growing evidence of ‘horizontal hostilities’ among women: many women are affirming their identities along axes of class, race, sexuality, age and/or relationship to colonialism. Within recent feminist writing, geography—space, place and location—has been used as a vehicle for rethinking a feminist affinity that does not erase or undermine ‘difference’. We review contemporary uses of geographical metaphors and caution against an excessive emphasis on displacement as a metaphor for a critical feminist stance. We argue that geographies of placement must be held in tension with an ideal of displacement. We develop this point through a case study of women and work in contemporary Worcester, Massachusetts. Women in Worcester are very much rooted in place and this is a vehicle for the construction of differences across women. We argue that studies of the construction of feminine identities in particular places counteract the current tendency within feminism to rigidify differences among women and are an important means of rebuilding affinities among women.

Exactly the same argument that the Alien and Predator article did. All those graphs are showing is how the rot from postmodern academia has seeped into mainstream culture.

Even back in the 90s, these people were struggling with the incredibly difficult task of deciding what a woman was:
The argument of this paper is based on water, i.e. on the metaphor of something that does not have a form, but is forming. Attempting to write herself without representing herself, the author invites the reader to understand her/his self without having to define it. In order to do that the question ‘What IS a woman?’ must be put in question. Then the definite existence of the IS can be turned into a paradoxical (non‐)being like that of Utopia. The space of geography is a space of what IS. Could woman feel at home in such a framework? Or does she inhabit the paradoxical space of Utopia? What would a geography of the Utopia be like? What is the space of the woman?
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09663699408721203

So we have irrefutable evidence that people in 1994 were attaching moral positions to skin colour and gender. And we have graphs that show an increase in these terms from around then.

But hey, all truth must be difficult for you if you think there is some great difficulty in figuring out what a woman is.
 

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How about academic scholarship, which is where these buzzwords come from?

Lets have a look shall we?

https://www.tandfonline.com/loi/cgpc20

Founded in 1994.

Lets have a look about what these people were writing about 26 years ago:


https://doi.org/10.1080/09663699408721200



Exactly the same argument that the Alien and Predator article did. All those graphs are showing is how the rot from postmodern academia has seeped into mainstream culture.

Even back in the 90s, these people were struggling with the incredibly difficult task of deciding what a woman was:

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09663699408721203

So we have irrefutable evidence that people in 1994 were attaching moral positions to skin colour and gender. And we have graphs that show an increase in these terms from around then.

But hey, all truth must be difficult for you if you think there is some great difficulty in figuring out what a woman is.

Gotta admit, I couldn't have predicted that you'd try to prove your case by resorting to archives of mid-90s feminist theory, but I like the cut of your jib you ballsy sunuvabitch

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Gotta admit, I couldn't have predicted that you'd try to prove your case by resorting to archives of mid-90s feminist theory, but I like the cut of your jib you ballsy sunuvabitch

So what do you think of those papers?
Do you think that the success of a Lucozade commercial is actually a result of the unconscious stereotype of black male sexuality?​
 

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Another bimbo leaving the Orange Dotard.

Going to help her hubby at the Lincoln Project.


Top Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway leaving White House job
Departure of White House adviser, who managed Trump's successful 2016 campaign, comes just two months before elections.


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White House adviser Kellyanne Conway has announced that she will be leaving the administration of US President Donald Trump at the end of August, citing the need to focus on her family.
 

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Well, sure, no platform other than washing Donnie's balls *seems* bad... but... It's actually much worse than that.

They say any motion to amend the 2016 platform will be ruled out of order.

Allow me to quote parts of the 2016 platform:

The current Administration has exceeded its constitutional authority, brazenly and flagrantly violated the separation of powers, sought to divide America into groups and turn citizen against citizen.

The President has been regulating to death a free market economy that he does not like and does not understand. He defies the laws of the United States by refusing to enforce those with which he does not agree. And he appoints judges who legislate from the bench rather than apply the law.

The next president must restore the public’s trust in law enforcement and civil order by first adhering to the rule of law himself. Additionally, the next president must not sow seeds of division and distrust between the police and the people they have sworn to serve and protect.


They're talking about the Obama administration, but you know what the 2016 platform doesn't specify with those statements?

The Obama administration.

So... Fast forward to 2020, and the "President" and "current Administration" are... Donald J Trump.

Ergo, the Trump "Administration has exceeded its constitutional authority, brazenly and flagrantly violated the separation of powers, sought to divide America into groups and turn citizen against citizen."

Donald J Trump "has been regulating to death a free market economy that he does not like and does not understand. He defies the laws of the United States by refusing to enforce those with which he does not agree. And he appoints judges who legislate from the bench rather than apply the law."

Donald J Trump "must restore the public’s trust in law enforcement and civil order by first adhering to the rule of law himself. Additionally, the next president must not sow seeds of division and distrust between the police and the people they have sworn to serve and protect."

Again, those statement were adopted in 2016 and it's been resolved that it's out of order to amend them in 2020.


Republicans are sycophantic, stupid and lazy. Change my mind.
 
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